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posted on September 10th, 2012 at 05:29 PM



IT MADE NOISE!!!!!! After 2 days doing final preporation Rod got it started on the dyno today. Still only early days but should have some video and figures to show on wednesday!!!!! Well done Rod & Jason.



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posted on September 10th, 2012 at 05:37 PM



is it still running at WSID on wed?
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posted on September 10th, 2012 at 05:50 PM



Maybe but looking better for next week.



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posted on September 10th, 2012 at 06:22 PM



I still can not fathom what has been achieved here....
You have created a monumental beast here, and one that we are looking forward to seeing blast some records into oblivion!
Credit where it's due.... This machine is amazing!




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posted on September 10th, 2012 at 06:24 PM



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posted on September 10th, 2012 at 09:00 PM



Awesome!! When do we try and break it with some boost, nitrous, nitro or all of the above??
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posted on September 10th, 2012 at 09:08 PM



^^^ I'm sure Rodney won't take long :lol::lol:

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posted on September 11th, 2012 at 10:51 AM



Good work Dude!!
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posted on September 11th, 2012 at 08:25 PM



Dyno time went pretty good , however I had a little mishap and it will take me about a week to get this re-organised . I will not make the Wednesday night street meet this week , and will keep you posted about next week , ROD.



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posted on September 11th, 2012 at 08:29 PM



Well done Rod...I think one mishap after what you have produced is allowed. Hope it gets resolved and your good to go
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posted on September 13th, 2012 at 08:40 PM
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I have been a bit busy over the last couple of days and now can report that the car now starts , revs freely and sounds like nothing I have heard before . The start up procedure is a bit complex and something I will have to get used to .

On Tuesday morning we ran the car for approx 25 minutes non stop and started to set up some of the motec paramenters . The result is that the cylinder heads will run at a constant 240/250 degrees C , the barrel temps are colder at 180 degrees and the exhaust temps are all between 560 /580 degrees when it starts reving and under boost .

Unfortunatley with the inlet manifold design the # 1 and # 3 cylinders receive more air than the front 2 cylinders . This is something we can fix at a later date and is of no concern at the moment .

Monday afternoon I had an oil pressure line touch the exhaust resulting in a small fire and about a 4 hr job to replace the line .

Tuesday afternoon was a disaster after the dry sump tank exploded in a ball of fire splattering oil over 30 feet away . I have plugged the heaters into the 240 volt lead to pre-heat the oil before starting the engine and I think one of the heater probes could have been faulty and ignited the oil .

The oil temp was at 34 degrees C and was only being heated for around 5 minutes before it let go . I had used the heaters on 6 previous occasions over the pervious 2 days and didn't see a problem .

I now have to fabricate another tank and this time I will be using some external heating blankets monter to the outside of the tank .

I am hoping to have all of this done and back on the Dyno by next thursday and friday to be able to take this to Warwick , ROD.




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posted on September 13th, 2012 at 08:56 PM



Flipping heck! :crazy:



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posted on September 13th, 2012 at 09:23 PM



Wowzers rod!



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posted on September 13th, 2012 at 09:26 PM



Flipping heck!

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posted on September 13th, 2012 at 10:20 PM



It runs and makes all the right noises Rod!! Good work on that and I guess be thankfull nobody got hurt from the oil tank letting go!!



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posted on September 13th, 2012 at 10:22 PM



Bummer rod I'm sure you'll get it sorted in time
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You can always call me and brad I'm sure we'll have plenty




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posted on September 14th, 2012 at 08:12 AM



That's some crazy random events there!!!
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posted on September 19th, 2012 at 08:01 PM



All tuned and ready to test @ Warwick . It is truley amazing the amount of power that is available now , ROD.



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posted on September 19th, 2012 at 08:17 PM



Come on dude! Spill the beans!!



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posted on September 19th, 2012 at 08:31 PM



Gonna be great to see this!but I'm glad I'm not crewing for you Rod!hope you and your crew have a good system in place for between rounds man there some work for everyone then more!Who's got the job of the hot round thing at the back of the motor!I'
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posted on September 19th, 2012 at 08:50 PM



well done Rod.

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posted on September 19th, 2012 at 09:23 PM



Looks like the secret squirrel is on the job again lol......

Congrats on getting it running Rod!! Look forward to seeing it in the flesh and running!!




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posted on September 20th, 2012 at 12:30 PM



top stuff.
Looks like everybody will just have to come to warick vw drags to see him run .:blush:




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posted on September 20th, 2012 at 08:43 PM



come on rod
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posted on September 21st, 2012 at 05:31 AM



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FIGURES



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posted on September 21st, 2012 at 07:56 AM



Dave , thanks for the link . I have started tuning the new engine and am happy with the results so far .

The Motec is so complex it is giving me a whole new look at technology available . The first run of the day was on the waste gates only with no boost controller and at about 8 psi boost the engine made 320 odd HP at the wheels .

I am not tuning for power at the moment as I am more concerned about the air/fuel ratio and not trying to hurt the engine . After the first run the engine was quiet rich and running very cool due to the methanol .

The next few runs were to try to strap the car down tighter on the rollers as the boost was increased the power comes up . Once the car was strapped tighter the boost was up to around 12 psi with the fuel mixtures still on the rich side .

Each logged run we are getting a good base line on the tuning program and we are starting to lean off the fuel a little . At the end of the day I had increased the boost with the E-boost controller to 18 psi and the engine made 485 HP at the wheels .

By my calculations this is about 630 HP , however the dyno operator said about 680 . Either way I am happy to run the car @ Warwick and to learn to drive the car .

I have not even used the clutch or shifted the transmission , so this will be a big learning curve for me to be able to be comfortable in the car before we start to power it up more , ROD.




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posted on September 21st, 2012 at 08:50 AM



thats some good initial numbers Rod, looking forward to hearing this thing @ Warwick, its gonna be awesome.



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Amazing stuff Rodney.



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posted on September 21st, 2012 at 05:37 PM



Nice one Rod!! What sort of boost will you be running once all is sorted??



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posted on October 7th, 2012 at 07:13 PM



WOW , it actually drives . I have tuned the engine on the dyno and after 3 days I am happy with the tune so far . I ended up with 485 HP @ the wheels on 18 lb's of boost and the engine sounds good . I have taken the car to Warwick for testing for 2 days and now have over 30 minutes of data to look at . I will post some technical results in a couple of days time as I am still looking into the different data logs every night . I am happy with the car even with the disapointment of breaking a shaft in the throttle body . I have no idea of why it actually broke as I have not yet seen 100% throttle .
On the first ever timed run I drove around the water box and staged the car . I drove the car down the track and had to shut the engine down half way down due to a low battery warning light on the dash , running 7.84 @ 65.78 mph with a 1.81 in the 60 ft . I looked at the data , all was good as far as the engine temps and pressures so I went out for a second run . On this run I decided to do a burnout and dropped the clutch at 5200 rpm's and instantly hit 2nd and then 3rd gear and the burnout was a little surprising as it was spinning the tyres pretty easily . I staged the car , let the clutch go @ 5800 rpm's and changed gears and I felt that the clutch was slipping or the tyres were spinning . I went through with a 6.90 @ 99.77 mph with a 1.57 in the 60 ft . I looked at the data and found that I had shifted into 2nd gear in 2.002 seconds , and 3rd gear in .917 of a second later . This had dropped the engine revs to 5400 and it was turning the tyres all the way down the track . Both runs were @ 18 lb's of boost and all engine parameters were all good .
On the 3rd run I was getting comfortable in the car and was about to start to drive it harder . I dropped the clutch in the burnout @ 6100 rpm's and instantly hit 2nd and 3rd gears and I was on the rev limiter @ 8600 rpm's and in top gear and the tyres were spinning @ about 176 mph or 280 km/h . The burnout started @ 71% throttle and continued for 4.6 seconds where the throttle shaft has broken @ 58% throttle . I had no throttle and shut the car off and continued to roll down the track , end of weekend for me . I will now remove the disasseble the engine for an inspection and the throttle shaft is away getting re-designed and all shoul be good to run @ a test day @ Sydney dragway on Saturday the 27th of october . I am happy so far and are probably more advanced on the car set-up now than what i was expecting , ROD.




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