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posted on March 27th, 2011 at 08:48 AM



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:smilegrin: sounds like your onto it mate, glad you kept trying to understand what's going wrong, now we all have a VW turbo specialist to ask for advice :).




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posted on March 27th, 2011 at 11:04 AM



Cheers guys..... Finally happy with the car and the potential it has..... Next few weeks will be a little busy....



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posted on March 28th, 2011 at 12:07 AM



Some pics from the Nostalgia's...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5181/5563210033_28053d3880.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5257/5563782674_87119bf3c5_z.jpg

A big "Bernie out"....

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5307/5563769312_33287665a6_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5070/5563213559_363b31cc48_z.jpg

Back to the VWs, this beauty pulled a 10.11...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/5563788410_a0284f4ae0_z.jpg

At the Pitts..........

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5186/5563773352_01f50ddd9f_z.jpg

Bernie was having his engine "Chipped" to try improve his run times...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5304/5563781410_aeedbc3d4b_z.jpg

At the track Paul was smashin it...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5058/5563220195_6e6ecfc231_z.jpg

And Both were burnin it!.....Wicked.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5104/5563223887_6e48e87fa5_z.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5092/5563224623_4d814db8e7_z.jpg

It was a white wash by Paul....Well done man...

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posted on March 28th, 2011 at 08:11 AM



Fantastic photo's Simon. Thanks for posting.
How cool is the pic with the 2 streeters frying the tyres :tu::tu::tu:, and as for chipping for more hp, do tell more, where do you put them and how many??? I like fast cars and chips :).
As for Mr 10.1.......why don't we know more about this fella??????

Holy crap dude, you have some explaining to do........




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posted on March 28th, 2011 at 12:45 PM



Mr 10.1 is a v8 matt !
Good pics but no times fellows .
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posted on March 28th, 2011 at 02:47 PM



Well done Simon, good to see it make a couple of passes at least, Pauls 13.3 was awesome too. T&t wednesday night? Get that boost reference sorted and we'll see a full pass on the go pedal with out the die in the ass at 1/2-3/4 track.
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posted on March 28th, 2011 at 06:21 PM



I spose clocking a 15 with only half track power isn't too bad...

A bit busy this week though.... Got heaps of marking to do, and have Parent-Teacher Night tomorrow night.... So looking forward to chatting to some of the parents about they're little treasures!

Maybe next week....

And as Pete said.... That 10 second Bug is a V8 powered thing.... So of course I had to tell him about some out east coast Dubbers efforts..... But it's not a bad bit of kit from those guys.... I grew up with them, so it's kinda funny how they have a VW in they're workshop these days.... They use to give me flack for rolling Dubs way back in the day....

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posted on April 2nd, 2011 at 05:01 PM



Worked a little on the car today..... Thought I'd try a difference setup with the emulsion tubes.... Besides the turbo tapered F2's I had in the carb at the track, I only have F2's and F7's, so I thought I'd try those.... Fitted the F7's with 165 mains and the 180 airs.... Right away the cars idle was a little patchy.... Hard to get a nice constant idle.... Fitted the 45F8 idles in there to try and clean it up... The engine began to really lope.... Adjusted the mixture screws a little more... 1.5 turns out seem to tidy it up.... Still not perfect.... Fitted some 50F8's.... A little rich now..... Hmmm..... Fitted the reference port up.... 'T'ed off the waste gate line.... Fuel pressure dropped a heap... Adjusted it up and managed to get a reasonable pressure, though not constant at idle... As the idle moves around (too rich and afr's from rich to lean), the pressure does also.... As engine speed drops, gauge goes to low vacuum, the pressure drops too low, as idle lifts, pressure does also....

Think I need to try a check valve in the reference line.... Hopefully by doing this, the pressure will be more constant and I will then be able to get the jetting a little better....

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posted on May 25th, 2011 at 09:28 PM



Update time......

Drag season is officially over here in WA.... Time to pull the POS down for a freshen up.... The engine comes out in the next few weeks, to be converted back to NA duty.... It will be fitted to the T34.... Which is going over the pits (rego) asap.

The reason for all this is simple.... I found it very hard to get a handle on the tune without the car being roadworthy.... So the POS is getting a separation order lodged.... The body needs new heater channels, the pan will get a lick of paint, and the two will be reunited once more.... On goes the BRM's and then it's time for rego.... Then work will begin on the new setup.... A new 2276 is currently going together which will be fitted to the POS.... But with a difference.... It's going get a little blow through EFI lovin'..... Had enough of the DCOE.




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posted on May 25th, 2011 at 10:19 PM



good call, I think you wont look back with efi. PS i hate the maroons!



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posted on August 3rd, 2011 at 07:02 PM



Nearly got the new body sorted for the car..... Hopefully have it ready for pain by next school holidays.....
Then its time for the tear down of the old body and pan prep can start....

Also..... Assembly of the longblock will be starting soon..... One last change to the whole shebang....

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posted on August 29th, 2011 at 12:10 AM



Cylinders fell through.... New body is getting some extra nicel lovin' and the 1776 is getting a 500cfm Holley 2bl to replace the DCOE.....

Here we go again!:lol:




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posted on September 19th, 2011 at 08:01 PM



Just arrived today..... :D :D

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Time to start fabricating.... Just need to snag a little of that pressure hose, fabricate a suitable carb support bracket, new engine cover standoffs and I think I have a cool idea for the aircleaner issue.... Stolen from Nick's Junka!

Still waiting for the Percys Adjust-a-jet bit too, but I can work around that....




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posted on September 19th, 2011 at 08:29 PM



Howdy Simon
you didn't go for the AJ's carb setup any reason
Just waiting for Peter to finish some other motors before he gets to mine:). I hate waiting LOL
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posted on September 19th, 2011 at 09:16 PM



Don't much like his attitude.... I asked him a few simple questions about his carb kits, all I got was very abrupt replies....
So I did a little research and found I could build my own for far less than he's asking for his kit.... So far I have less than 350 bux in this lot.... Chuck in a little TIG work and I'll be rolling...




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posted on September 20th, 2011 at 06:51 AM



stop talking about it and get it done....:lol:
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posted on September 20th, 2011 at 09:42 AM



Hahahahhahha...... Funny guy!

In the shed on Saturday I go....




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posted on September 20th, 2011 at 01:16 PM



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Don't much like his attitude.... I asked him a few simple questions about his carb kits, all I got was very abrupt replies....



hey mate you are not the first person to say that
he has a bad attitude and the funny thing is that he is very low on the list of vw gurus back home
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posted on September 22nd, 2011 at 12:36 AM



Hey Simon,

Have you given up on the 45?
AJ vids on youtube are not impressive.




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posted on September 22nd, 2011 at 01:07 AM



Yep..... Just couldn't get it to work consistently.... With no local knowledge, rare and expensive parts and finicky tune, after two years fiddling with the thing I just got jack of it.... To be honest, I reckon the carb is just too big for my little engine and possibly too modified to boot!
So as an interim (before the stroker and efi go in the new body), I thought I give this a shot....




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posted on September 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 PM



Ok.... So now I got my 500 Holley in bits.... Fitted the smallest PV I could find (3.5), the Adjust-a-jet is here now, and the boost referencing mods are about to happen, but still I have questions....

http://carburetorsandmore.com/holley5002v33.jpg

Can anyone tell me what all these ports (the large one at the top and the two smaller ones on the lower right) are for in the base plate are for?




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posted on September 25th, 2011 at 08:41 PM



Got back in the shed this morning..... So started on the new intake for the Holley....

But first I needed to pull this....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5327.jpg

Then I bolted this on in it's place....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5326.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5321.jpg

Followed by this.....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5334.jpg

And this...

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5336.jpg

Which needed some trimming.... And shortening...

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5338.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5339.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5344.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5340.jpg

Which got me to this....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5360.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5359.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5361.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5348.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5345.jpg

Happy with that lot so it's off the TIG dude for a little fettle....

Then I started on the new breather/catchcan setup....

It's kinda cool and a little odd..... Just the way I like it! :D




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posted on September 25th, 2011 at 09:06 PM



I just want to make this very clear to you all...... I know absolutely nothing about Holleys!.... Ask me about Dellortos and I can bore you to tears on those babys, but Holleys are a total unknown.....

Now for my questions.... Is there any reason why I can't use the stock vacuum port as the signal port for the Power Valve (PV) boost sensing mod?

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5362-1.jpg

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I think I might be able to get in there and redirect the gallery into the PV chamber, but would this possibly have a disastrous effect on some other function within the carb?

As a side note for those that are better informed than I.... My carb is marked with a 4412-S model number.... Does that mean its suitable to be used on a blown engine, and this port I am contemplating using is in fact the OEM method for boost sensing?




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posted on September 26th, 2011 at 07:16 AM



Try this Simon

http://ultimateaircooled.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php/topic,7072.0.html 

http://ultimateaircooled.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=5909.0 


I looked into this but found boost referencing was more for street driven cars. I opted for the small power valve (2.5) and bigger jets (65) I just find I need to let it idle faster to account for the bigger jets.

if you go to ultimate aircooled and search on "boost referencing" there's heaps of good info and discussions. You'll soon learn there are almost as many different ways to do it as there are oppinions on it.

ask me again this time next week if i'm still happy with the holley....:D
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Cheers again Andrew.... And best of luck next weekend!!!!!



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posted on September 26th, 2011 at 05:06 PM



there was a 4 part series in the about 2006 dune buggiies & hot VWs about setting up a holley turbo engine , if you can find em.



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Yeah I know about it.... Dave Kawell was the gentleman responsible.... Tough to find the issues.... But I think I might have it sorted.... Will get to it this weekend.... My TIG guy is MIA, so I've call Kim Ledger today to see if his guys can do it... So its off to them later in the week.



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Boost referenced the 500cfm Holley today....

Needed to machine a slot where that black line is....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5378.jpg

Used this....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5381.jpg

And this...

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5380.jpg

To make this....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5387.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5385.jpg

See that 'L' shaped gallery?

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5389.jpg

It lines up with the slot I cut in the carb body earlier...

Then I drilled a hole at the top most part of it....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5391.jpg

Which lines up with the large hole that is cast in the side of the PV manifold...

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5392.jpg

Which was then tapped with 1/8 tapered tap....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5393.jpg

So I could fit this....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5394.jpg

Then I needed to drill, tap and seal these two galleries to reditrect the vacuum/boost signal....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5397.jpg

Then I whacked it all back together....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/IMG_5399.jpg

Still need to fit the Adjust-a-jet and then we are done....




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posted on September 27th, 2011 at 10:14 PM



Made this document up for those that might be interested in doing the same thing! :wink: :wink:

It's based on some info I found on the web, but tidied up a bit so it's little easier to read and understand....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/Humptydub/POS60T/BoostReferencinga500cfmHolley2bl.jpg




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posted on September 27th, 2011 at 10:45 PM



Man i wanted to use a holley or similar on my project till i saw this, that went in one ear and out the other.

What internals have you done with your engine, I basically want a bit more stick out of my basically standard 1600tp, any hints? I was originally going to use a SU then a side draft, then this but now i dont know :rolleyes:
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