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 VWCOOL
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 07:23 PM |
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What drugs are you on !!!
And NO, Stan would not agree.
And if Goodman engines think that you only loose 1% of your horsepower through a gearbox well........................
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lol... 5%? 10? gayenne - YOU'RE JOKING. Or misinformed. One percent is just fantasy stuff that not even a Toyota Prius could hope for. Driveline loss
for a current-generation manual gearbox is typically 25 percent. I don't know for sure, but it will possibly be more for an older-generation manual
gearbox (developed in the days before emissions and fuel consumption targets.) And a transaxle has just as many whirly bits as a 'normal' car so
don't tell me any stories about it being more compact or some crap...
Who cares anyway - it's effort at the wheels that makes the car go!
[Edited on 1-7-2004 by VWCOOL]
Pay your debts, CxxT
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gayanne
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 09:51 PM |
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What drugs are you on !!!
And NO, Stan would not agree.
And if Goodman engines think that you only loose 1% of your horsepower through a gearbox well........................
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lol... 5%? 10? gayenne - YOU'RE JOKING. Or misinformed. One percent is just fantasy stuff that not even a Toyota Prius could hope for. Driveline loss
for a current-generation manual gearbox is typically 25 percent. I don't know for sure, but it will possibly be more for an older-generation manual
gearbox (developed in the days before emissions and fuel consumption targets.) And a transaxle has just as many whirly bits as a 'normal' car so
don't tell me any stories about it being more compact or some crap...
Who cares anyway - it's effort at the wheels that makes the car go!
[Edited on 1-7-2004 by VWCOOL]
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Text[size=1]Yes 1% is fantasy land 5to 10% is around the money for race cars.20%is about the figures you
would use standard boxes If you read bajawes quote i agreed with his technical notes so please read the quotes a little better.JVLRacing[/size]
[Edited on 1-7-2004 by gayanne]
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| posted on July 1st, 2004 at 11:36 PM |
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oh. my. god. so many quotes. you would think this is U2U. heh. but. nehoo. i think we established 20% by now  what a standard 1600 got at the wheels? or even flywheel for that matter?
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| posted on July 2nd, 2004 at 01:31 PM |
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Pete...Can't remember off hand what a stock 63 bug weighs, but surely mine wouldn't much more than that. Add some drivetrain bits like dellortos,
sump, OBERG, tramp bar, intermediate mount, disc brakes, sway bar and 15" FUCHS.
Ball park?
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Craig Torrens
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| posted on July 2nd, 2004 at 08:27 PM |
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Humpty, probably around 90hp.
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| posted on July 3rd, 2004 at 02:48 PM |
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Cheers Craig..... I can live with that.... For now!
By the way, is that @ the FW or RW?
Now where's that turbo motor I've been piecing together for the last 6 years!
How's married life Craig?
Never did pick up that visor, ya bugger!
Don't worry about, I haven't even tried to move since!
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| posted on July 13th, 2004 at 07:09 AM |
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jesus. 90hp and a 14.8 u r doing well humpty. u2u me as i am checking out the option of building a 1776cc motor.
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| posted on July 13th, 2004 at 12:39 PM |
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I reckon a 14.8 in an early beetle would need around 100HP at the wheels.
It depends on the weight of the car and driver amoung other things. My guess for car driver and fuel would be at least 830kg.
My guess is based on my acceleration spreadsheet.
http://www.offroadvw.net/exceldyno/
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