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| posted on April 13th, 2004 at 02:25 PM |
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looks excellent 
what rear trailing arms are you using?
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What trailing arms are you using?
Where did you get the seats? Did you import them yourself? or do you have a source?
What bolt pattern are you wheels? What car are the mags off?
Thanks
Mike.
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| posted on April 13th, 2004 at 03:27 PM |
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wes is an engineer i am a tradesman we will always have differant ideas(ask any tradesman)
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yeah I suppose 
but I don't you need to be an engineer to make the observations that I, or Brad have made.
I got nothing against rear mounted radiators, mine is a rear mounted radiator. Mine also isn't the perfect set-up and needs a couple of small
deflectors for continuous high-speed use. I found out by trial and error, but with a lot of careful intial thought my set-up is pretty good as is so
far.
I'm not knocking your idea's, I'm just adding "have you thought about" comments.
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| posted on April 13th, 2004 at 03:42 PM |
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I am confussed what does being a tradesman do to air flow ? It is the same for engineers and tradesman alike.
I hope it works but I can't see how.
Dunno what race cars you have looked at but I have never seen an offroader with a rad mounted in that way. My issue is with the air flow not the rad
itself. Your fans are sucking ?? yes ??? if so they are pulling air from inside the car .. yes ? So if the rad gets a hole in it the steam goes into
the passenger area ???
I just can't see the thermo's pulling enough air to compensate for the amount of air pushing up from under the pan.
Better gat back to the shed now as I don't even have a rad in mine yet :<
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| posted on April 13th, 2004 at 05:19 PM |
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On my car, at speeds of up to 110kph the air happily flows under the car and then curves up to the radiator, then gets sucked out the rear of the
car.
At speed of 110kph and higher, the air flows under the car but is going too fast to curve up to the radiator. This creates a low pressure pocket in
front of the radiator, which reduces the air flow and makes the engine run a little hotter at these speed. I am planning on fixing it with a couple of
little kicker scoops below the torsion tubes to kick the high speed air up towards the radiator.
My concern is the position of your radiator is such that it's always in a low pressure pocket of behind the windscreen and seats / in the cabin. It
might cause problems.
We're not picking on you, and we appreciate you posting pics of your ride. I don't want anyone else to feel discouraged about posting pics of their
work because they might feel they will get whinged at for their ideas. This is not how we're trying to come across. We're just adding constructive
critisism that might help prevent or diagnose potential problems
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| posted on April 13th, 2004 at 08:34 PM |
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mike
i got the beard super seats from an offroad guy who imported them
he than got sponsorship from another brand
wheels are 6 stud landcruiser
CSA mags 16x8 back and 16x7 front
brad ,wes
looks like if i go fishing you`s two will come in hook line and sinker
don`t worry like you`s two i`m not easily discouraged
thanks for your remarks
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| posted on April 13th, 2004 at 09:10 PM |
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great
i walk away shaking my head ...you guys put my puny efforts to shame .i can only watch and learn . keep up the excellent information . great work
realy cool
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| posted on April 13th, 2004 at 10:18 PM |
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fishing ... mmm you had better take an esky cause it will be thirsty work waiting for ya engine to cool down on the side of the road :beer
Where are you located ?
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| posted on April 18th, 2004 at 09:10 PM |
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were has others fitted the radiator ??????photos please seagull
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| posted on April 18th, 2004 at 11:26 PM |
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O man Iam like a little boy in a lolly shop can I have more !
show us the arms Please
get right under there and get some close up photos , do some photos of it riding over a tree .
O and go the trade guys me one too !! seagull
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| posted on April 19th, 2004 at 09:11 PM |
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Located,
I can answer that. he's near me, C.Q. (Rocky).
See more reason to come visiting
matt
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 09:03 AM |
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shock tower photo
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 08:05 PM |
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mm that is very interesting... looks good.
Is your engineer happy with all the mods ? I am still talking to a few about mine :cry
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| posted on April 20th, 2004 at 09:11 PM |
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hey hot dog , I thinking here you have bolted the shock tower on the torsion arm ? as the steel these are made from doesent take to welding very well
.Is there a bolt out of veiw behind the orignal shock mount ( were the two pipes are attached )? If so might be good to piont this out to some of the
none Trade guys !
Did you make a header tank at the back of the motor ,so the donk does not get a air lock ??
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| posted on April 21st, 2004 at 11:16 AM |
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hey hot dog , I thinking here you have bolted the shock tower on the torsion arm ? as the steel these are made from doesent take to welding very well
.Is there a bolt out of veiw behind the orignal shock mount ( were the two pipes are attached )? If so might be good to piont this out to some of the
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I appears to me the old shock mount has been cut off. The new shock mount is bolted to the body mounting holes.
[Edited on 21-4-2004 by MikeM]
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| posted on April 21st, 2004 at 11:33 AM |
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We would all love to see your car, but where and who are you(mabey add your location at least to your profile) and a hint of who you are.
Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel
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| posted on April 21st, 2004 at 04:09 PM |
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mmmm
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hey hot dog , I thinking here you have bolted the shock tower on the torsion arm ? as the steel these are made from doesent take to welding very well
.Is there a bolt out of veiw behind the orignal shock mount ( were the two pipes are attached )? If so might be good to piont this out to some of the
none Trade guys !
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You can weld quite happily to shock towers and torsion housings on the VW. It is a myth. I have welded heaps of stuff to them with just a mig and
before that an arc. You don't need anything fancy.
Proof is in the pudding..........
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| posted on April 21st, 2004 at 05:04 PM |
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They are welded to the torsion tubes from the factory...
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Located,
I can answer that. he's near me, C.Q. (Rocky).
matt
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Hey Mattie, you organize a weekend trip up their and we will be up there,or at least iwill be as some of the girls/skirts down here dont like driving
their buggies long distance(no offence Heather) so come on Matt lets see a trip in C/Qland
Don't let body work get in the way of real suspension travel
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Wes I did some test peices and had them tested ( mate is in this line of work ), this was on the center section of type three torsion bar I had
floating around .The mig would not take to it , the stick welder did ,but failed when we stretched it , the weld came away from the torsion bar in one
peice . I did not get the metal graded as that cost $ . looking at the welds there is slag coating on some of the beams I have seen so at a gess I
would say they weld them sub arc ??
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sub arc welding may be tricky. With most castings the preheat temperature is the most critical.
As Brad said the proof is in the pudding. He has welded lots of things to VW shock towers, abuses his buggies and hasn't broken anything (anything he
welded to the shock tower anyway).
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You can happily weld the stuff... I dunno what you did seagull but I have had no problems.
I use low spped high amps on my mig and get plenty of penetration on it and you can see it take from the inside of the beam.
I have just finished making a proto type rear end adjuster which welds to the spline section. I have put 40 T on it and get no distortion or breakage.
I am sending one for further testing at a mates shop. He will xray it and let me know what it looks like.
Have also just fitted one into a buggy so we will see if they hold.
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Hey Mattie, you organize a weekend trip up their and we will be up there,or at least iwill be as some of the girls/skirts down here dont like driving
their buggies long distance(no offence Heather) so come on Matt lets see a trip in C/Qland
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:o u guys wear skirts??? hmm in buggies??? ooohwaaahhh aren't you afraid of flashing?? (must be a secret campfire thing... )
Nice to see open minded fellas in touch with thier fem sides :P
I'd drive to c/qld! I have a policy of 'will drive anywhere as long as I have enough in bank 4 tow,,, or somewhere safe to park car along way till i
can fix it!!!!'
orrrr.. just take it to nearest truck stop, stick fur on it, find cattle train heading back to bris, and run up to driver..." scuse me moite, I fink
one of ya beasts has escaped... here I'll help ya load it ...... pull on rope attached to bullbar whilst you get a friend to drive it up ramp
yelling moooo-moooo as you go!... see where there's a will theres a way!
(I just have to obay speed limits as it's all my engine can handle! 
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brad My welding is no problem 1 tack 1 tone !!! no the weld faild on the cast center section ( type three ) where the 4 bolt are to bolt the gear box
mount .
I dont know what the go was I had sent my 4 samples on that day this was the only one that failed ??? . I have had full Austrailian & NZ code
1554 from about 1990 .
It gets me. we need a enginer to pass our buggys ,trikes and hot rods ,provide welding xrays ,macro examinations ect ect .$$$$$
Then you can buy a welder from Kmart build a trailer from a plan included take in down and get it lic .????
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you use a plan to build trailers over there ??? Wow .. we just make it up over here 
Yeah I dunno, all I can say is that I have never had anything break away from the torsion housing on a VW and I weld stuff to it all the time.
The engineers I use have no problem approving it and have never even mentioned having issues.
Musthave just been a bad day for ya :P
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| posted on April 24th, 2004 at 10:52 PM |
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Yes just not a lot of PENETRATION hey !! :rudolf
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