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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 10:05 AM |
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haha.. one page full of parts posts... crazy,
thats one sweet puzzle..
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Doug Sweetman
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 10:30 AM |
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That is some serious hardcore internals there...... those rods look indestructible !
This will be scary fast !
HAve you worked out what injectors you will need for it yet ?
Are you using a deep sump / extension ?
What / who's crank are you using ?
Look forward to further updates....... Hope the oval is still going strong.
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 12:37 PM |
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Did someone say $$$$$!!
Thats some hardware, how much are the pauter rods, I looked at them but thought they were mega bucks as well as the injection perfection TB's. Can't
wait to see it come together. Do you think a little overkill for 1915? With the heads, case rods and transmission etc, why not stick a bigger crank
and run less boost, im sure the internals can take loads of boost but the heads are going to out-flow anything a 1915 pumps out?
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 01:30 PM |
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I wonder how it will perform in the sand?
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 02:51 PM |
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Keep the updates coming, that will be an awesome ride.
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 06:25 PM |
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Out of curiosity, why are you using a rising rate regulator if it's gonna be fully programable EFI?
BTW, can you answer this for me,
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=42175
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 07:09 PM |
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Mannnn thats fully sikkkk. I want one. Cant wait for the regular updates like your previous project.
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 08:36 PM |
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that would have to be my dream shopping list:duh
just have to keep dreaming a little while longer
soon soon
that will be one insane ride when finished
i've seen peter from canberra vw centre in his manx with a n/a 2276.....that thing goes like the clappers
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 09:57 PM |
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I wouldnt mind that in the back of my manx. I could see the wind flowing over my bald patch and parting my beard as I pulled a wheel stand whilst
driving down the main road.
Allthough I would be too scared to have a power plant like that in the back. It could give an old bastard like me a heart attack.
Can't wait to read the up dates on this awesome machine.......
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 10:21 PM |
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Holy moly - great stuff. Lets hope people can sit back and enjoy the rebuild rather than criticising someone else's ideas/work. Thanks for sharing it
with us all as not too many would be able to build/own an engine like that!
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 10:24 PM |
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posted by VWENVY
Holy Crap Batman!!:thumb
Whats the estimated power to weight on this thing?
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conservative estimated BHP @ the rear wheels should be around 240-260 . depends how it behaves itself as to how much boost will be run , but we are
thinking around 22-24psi .
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 10:36 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Doug Sweetman
That is some serious hardcore internals there...... those rods look indestructible !
This will be scary fast !
HAve you worked out what injectors you will need for it yet ?
Are you using a deep sump / extension ?
What / who's crank are you using ?
Look forward to further updates....... Hope the oval is still going strong.
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they are pretty tough rods , rated at 1200hp I believe . The injectors have been calculated at 800cc . A deep 1 1/2 litre deep sump will be used . The
crank is a Bernie Bergmann 69mm full-circle counterweight . ( couldn't post pics of crank and rods assembled yet as they are in the engine for a
dummy fit-up , will post pics soon ). and thanks for asking about the oval , it has just had a new 24" long x 7" diameter muffler custom made and
fitted . It is so quiet that you cant hear it running from 30 feet . I have taken several customers for test flights , and not one of them could
believe that it was powered by a VW engine . will update the oval posts soon .
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 10:46 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Turbo54
Did someone say $$$$$!!
how much are the pauter rods, as well as the injection perfection TB's, why not stick a bigger crank
Turbo54
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I purchased the pauter rods in 1997 for one of my 1600 speedway engines , but never got to use them . Back then they cost me AUD$1850 for the set .
I'm not sure what they cost today . the 48IDF throttle bodies cost $680 each . When I had purchased the rods , I also purchased the crank to match .
The rods are so large that the case has to be clearanced even with a 69mm crank . This is one of the reasons we decided to stay with 1916.nn[ Editedon 13-8-2005 by hypo-vw ]
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 10:48 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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I wonder how it will perform in the sand?
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hope we never find out ! if you are near the sand at a drag strip , then you had better rethink the brakes . ha ha
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| posted on July 27th, 2005 at 10:57 PM |
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even though the efi system is fully programmable , it is still necessary to run the fuel pressure higher as the pressure in the intake manifold
becomes higher . Thinking of the extremes , imagine what would happen if manifold pressure became higher than fuel pressure . High pressure air would
blow back up the fuel rails when the injector pulses .
as for the cabrio - it is not water injected , however I have thought of fitting it . boost runs at 7 psi . the crank is a 2 litre counterweighted .
the SU carburettor is a 2" off a 4.2 6cyl jaguar .
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| posted on July 28th, 2005 at 12:38 AM |
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Hey Hypo-vw, isn't it fun assenbling engines when all your parts arrive in shrink wrap!
Are you sure your injectors are large enough? I mean 4 x 800cc will only flow enough fuel for 580HP! If your aiming for 260-280 a more modest
550-660cc injectors would provide a more tunable (for low end drivability) than the 800's. (even with sequential efi)
Also, your clutch is a little on the extreme side too, especially for a 450-500kg buggy. A 3 puck and a stage 3 clutch would hold back 400+hp in a
full bodied car, and you'd better have a hydraulic actuator conversion or you'll get really good at replacing clutch cables. I would have
suggested a 4 puck and a 1700 lb clutch to hold back 300rwhp easy in a buggy, and not stress the drive line as much.
What rod length did you go for? What kind of pistons? Have you considered using an autocraft a dry sump pump with external oil pressure regulation,
cause when this car hooks up you know your wheels will be in the air for 1st, 2nd and a little in 3rd, and your deep sump will be drained of oil
rapidly at RPM with the oil strugling to get down to the deep sump again...
Sorry, I don't mean to rag on your project but after all forums are about sharing of knowledge after all. It looks like its going to be awesome once
its finished.nn[ Edited on 27-7-2005 by iswinkels ]
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by iswinkels
Hey Hypo-vw, isn't it fun assenbling engines when all your parts arrive in shrink wrap!
Are you sure your injectors are large enough? I mean 4 x 800cc will only flow enough fuel for 580HP! If your aiming for 260-280 a more modest
550-660cc injectors would provide a more tunable (for low end drivability) than the 800's. (even with sequential efi)
Also, your clutch is a little on the extreme side too, especially for a 450-500kg buggy. A 3 puck and a stage 3 clutch would hold back 400+hp in a
full bodied car, and you'd better have a hydraulic actuator conversion or you'll get really good at replacing clutch cables. I would have
suggested a 4 puck and a 1700 lb clutch to hold back 300rwhp easy in a buggy, and not stress the drive line as much.
What rod length did you go for? What kind of pistons? Have you considered using an autocraft a dry sump pump with external oil pressure regulation,
cause when this car hooks up you know your wheels will be in the air for 1st, 2nd and a little in 3rd, and your deep sump will be drained of oil
rapidly at RPM with the oil strugling to get down to the deep sump again...
Sorry, I don't mean to rag on your project but after all forums are about sharing of knowledge after all. It looks like its going to be awesome once
its finished.nn[ Edited on 27-7-2005 by iswinkels ]
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We chose 800cc injectors as we are currently using 550cc 13b turbo injectors in the oval , and it runs out of fuel at 15lbs ( this is why i could
only run 14lbs @ the VW drags ) the engine in the buggy is much smaller but we plan to run a lot more boost than I am currently using . If we have
trouble tuning the bottom end , I may have to run 8 smaller injectors in a progressive pattern .
The buggy currently weighed 510kg with a stock 1600 . I suspect that the tare weight will rise about 50-60kg to around 560kg once all the plumbing is
completed , pumps ,radiator for the intercooler, oil cooler, larger ignition coil etc . If all clutch components are fitted correctly the clutch cable
should not suffer . I have run a 3000lb stage 4 pressure plate in my sports sedan now for 5 years , participated at 32 race meetings which means a lot
of gear changes , the clutch pedal feels like stock and have never replaced the cable yet . The 3 puk disc is a little harsh , but very usable on the
street . One of my employees has run a 3 puk in his 2165 63' bug on the street now for 4 years without any problems .
rods are stock length , pistons are 94mm mahle 'b' type and wheelie bars will keep the front down to a respectable height .nn[ Edited on 27-7-2005by hypo-vw ]
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| posted on July 28th, 2005 at 07:17 AM |
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that is awesome .. I look fwd to hearing it run .....
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Watching intently... my manx will be getting reborn over the next six months with a tough webber fed stroker (thanks to Iswinkles) cant wait to see
this build up though!
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| Quote: | Originally
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rods are stock length , pistons are 94mm mahle 'b' type and wheelie bars will keep the front down to a respectable height.
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Are you planning to add eletric steering to them? coz from what I see the main steering wheel will just be for decoration.
:P
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| posted on July 28th, 2005 at 07:03 PM |
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High powered VW Buggy,
Yum
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just wondering where you got the turbo and injector kits from. am looking at doing the same to my 1776cc 65 baja and running about say 4-7 psi as a
daily driver, should scare the pants off some people in town who think they are all that |
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| posted on July 29th, 2005 at 08:37 PM |
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That thing is going to be fast!!!!
What cam?
How much boost?
2 bar in that engine should make over 400Hp!!:thumb
2000cc turbo type 4, dragster (325Kw)
2714cc no turbo, no gas, street bug (140Kw)
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| posted on August 7th, 2005 at 03:21 PM |
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an updates??? |
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MORE PROGRESS
the engine case has been stripped of all its studs and is ready to bore for the 94mm barrels . I have taken my time and done a lot of homework over
the past 2 weeks on the engine case alone as there are a lot of bad reports out there about them . I have even emailed Gene Berg Enterprises and
discussed this with their technical support department . I have heard rumours of engine oil system problems due to the oil pressure relief valves not
seating correctly and I have had 2 customers of my own have oil leakage from the crank pulley area . After investigating these problems extensively ,
I have found that the new heavy duty alloy cases have not been fitted with an oil restricter to the front snout bearing ( as the origional cases had )
so excessive amounts of oil in this area cannot escape back through the oil drain and is forced out the rear pulley area . This will be rectified on
this case , and the case will be machined at the front spigot with a seal fitted also .
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transmission housing has had all of the ribs fully polished
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a closer shot of the polished ribs . when the transmission is completed , the ribs will be masked and the trans will be painted gloss black .
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fully polished heavy duty side covers
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side plate fitted to housing to give you an idea what the trans should look like
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the turbo plenims that bolt onto the top of the injection throttle bodies has arrived
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