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| posted on July 5th, 2006 at 04:23 PM |
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| posted on July 5th, 2006 at 07:43 PM |
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Oooh! Good story...how close is that? Is it all OK?
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| posted on July 5th, 2006 at 10:06 PM |
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yeah mate, works great! maybe a lil bit too much bias to the front, they lock slightly before the rears. mind you the rear hasn't beded in yet, and
they're still on the initial fluid bleed. also using the standard ford pads and i feel the difference could be made with the pads alone
wheels pictured are seven inch cookie cutters.
having said that, the "hide-away" exhaust had to go, it hit the calipers. went to a phat boy, they are very, very loud! comparable with a
stinger!
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 08:49 PM |
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late discs running on the king and link pin front......
once again i'm talking u2u style to someone about the way my front brakes were set up, so i thought i would just post it up here as well......
the caliper brackets here are set to hold the standard beetle caliper on the link pin/drum spindle....
i had to pull the front apart down to the trailing arms to install new king and link pins.
here is the "stub assembly" you can see the new link bushes have been pushed into place. these are the easy bit, with a simple press fit and no
reaming required. the king pins were done a while back and require a lot more work in their set up:thumb
after measuring the offset of the trailing arms, the correct number of shims are added to both the top and bottom pins, this sets up the camber of the
wheels properly
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 09:02 PM |
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from there it's pretty simple....
bolt the bracket in place....
my discs are porsche pattern and have the uniform thickness on the back. the use a standard grease seal. and "adapter" bearings that have the O.D of
the late disc, and the I.D of the drum spindles.
on they go....
bolt up the standard beetle caliper.....
i use long audi wheel bolts, as standard v.w are a bit short for the porsche wheels. MMMMMMmmmmmm original deep 6 fuchs' ....
the package of V.W front and EA rears works well for me. certainly a lot different from the early 4 drum set up
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 10:17 PM |
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ADRs (and engineers) require the fronts lock before the rears so you don't go into a crash backasswards
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 10:23 PM |
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ADRs (and engineers) require the fronts lock before the rears so you don't go into a crash backasswards
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all good then:thumb......
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 10:41 PM |
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Yup! BUT you want them to lock J-U-S-T before the rears... not, like, one week...
The real test comes when there's some heat in the system and the skinny stocko 9mm front rotors overheat/fade before the thick Falcon 13mm rears and
you end up facing the wrong way on the way back from Dorrigo :o
I have a proportioning valve in the front circuit (23mm thick vented discs) of my car that allows me to adjust
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 10:48 PM |
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yeah, makes sense, thanx
better go back to the shelf and grab the vented fronts that are sitting there:P,..... you'd like them.
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 10:53 PM |
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Yeah, but not as much as mine 
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 11:05 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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my discs are porsche pattern and have the uniform thickness on the back. the use a standard grease seal. and "adapter" bearings that have the O.D of
the late disc, and the I.D of the drum spindles.
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Where do you get them? I looked through heaps of bearing catalogues to find a bearing that would work but I ended up having to machine the discs.
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 11:08 PM |
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Awesome setup!
You reckon you could run 4.5 fuchs on the front with the late calipers?
Thanks again for all of your info and help mate,
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| posted on October 23rd, 2006 at 11:12 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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posted by dumone
my discs are porsche pattern and have the uniform thickness on the back. the use a standard grease seal. and "adapter" bearings that have the O.D of
the late disc, and the I.D of the drum spindles.
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Where do you get them? I looked through heaps of bearing catalogues to find a bearing that would work but I ended up having to machine the discs.
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ohh yeah, forgot that, i think it's just the outer bearing seat that gets machined tho (memory), i will compare the bearings on the other side
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| posted on June 15th, 2009 at 10:23 PM |
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Hi guys. Short time reader and first time poster.
I'm interested in your EA conversion. I've bought a knackered Eureka and I intend for this to be one of the mods I do to it.
I've followed this process easily, and can do all the work myself (except I will have to get a set of seagull's brackets - I hope he has some).
I intend to keep the Falcon stud pattern because of the choice of wheels available, and I know I'll have to buy new blank hubs for the rear and have
them drilled. I'm sure that won't be a problem.
One thing that eludes me is the origin of the front discs that you used, Hellbuggered. Were they just genuine porsche fronts? Also, the bracket you
used. I guess that's Porsche too?
If I intend to use EA rear discs, I am aware that I will need to keep the bias in mind. Could I get EA discs for the front, or would that "lock up
the fronts a week before the rears" as someone said?
Are variable brake bias valves able to be used if your car is a road car?
Any suggestions in this regard would be appreciated, and thanks for your patience if the answer to this has been covered somewhere that I haven't yet
found.
Cheers
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hellbugged
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| posted on June 16th, 2009 at 06:09 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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One thing that eludes me is the origin of the front discs that you used, Hellbuggered. Were they just genuine porsche fronts? Also, the bracket you
used. I guess that's Porsche too?
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front discs are just late beetle style.......you would have to search out some blanks for your ford pattern. maybe shermans will have them for you
brakets are a "conversion" plate that simply mates beetle calipers to link pin suspension.........try vintageveedub supplies for those
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