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posted on September 1st, 2005 at 08:22 PM


hey dave

whats the chances of getting a video of your car running next time ur out?

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posted on September 1st, 2005 at 08:30 PM


Hi Alex,
Last time I saw you , you were about 5 years old....now I feel like an old bloke!
Being that I am an old Bastard, I don't have the knowhow to put video or photos for that matter, on the forum, but I will probably be down there at Easter or when ever the VW nats drags is on.
Hows your brother and Dad going?




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posted on September 1st, 2005 at 08:41 PM


Yeah i was prob still playing with play doe! You cant be that old your still playing with VW's!

Ill prob run my car at the Nats drags, so we will have to have a run together!

Yeah dads good hes slowing getting time to play with his race car and dieter is finishing his hsc so hes been a rude prick for the last couple of weeks! but apart from that we have just been having fun!

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posted on September 1st, 2005 at 08:52 PM


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Yeah i was prob still playing with play doe! You cant be that old your still playing with VW's!

Ill prob run my car at the Nats drags, so we will have to have a run together!

Yeah dads good hes slowing getting time to play with his race car and dieter is finishing his hsc so hes been a rude prick for the last couple of weeks! but apart from that we have just been having fun!

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posted on September 2nd, 2005 at 01:00 AM


Hi Dave

Just went and got Zoom out of the work car, I made a mistake, sorry. Its said
All motor record is ET 12.19 P Page SQ Volkswagen Beetle/VW W/Bank 09/04
MPH 105.77 M Forward Chrysler Galant/ Mazda 13B WSID 03/04
So does this mean that you will have both the ET & MPH record now?

Zoom now have Jason O'Haloran writing a column for them now.

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posted on September 2nd, 2005 at 05:40 AM


Not yet Steve, has to be a National Event...the Jamboree is the next one...but I heard a three rotor Mazda is showing up.



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posted on September 2nd, 2005 at 05:44 AM


Actually that record is correct but it is now owned by a gemini. Pete had the old record at 12.25 in Rod's streeter, which also ran an 11.92 the same day but it wasn't within 1% of the 12.25...or something like that.



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posted on September 2nd, 2005 at 09:03 AM


Hi Dave

Reading the All motor rules on the ANDRA site it says "1.1 Engine: 4 cylinder or 2 rotor engine only; all others prohibited." So it looks like the 3 rotor cant run, hopefully you can get the record at Jamboree.

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posted on September 3rd, 2005 at 12:37 AM


Hi Dave

ANDRA site says: Minimum weight, VW air-cooled stock "type 1" case only: 1750 pounds, otherwise 1950 pounds.
Would the Pauter case be a problem, if not, what about a type 4 case.

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posted on September 3rd, 2005 at 07:13 AM


Hello Hermann,
as of Sept 1 aftermarket cases and heads have been accepted.
My man inside Andra says Type 4 engines are OK as are WBX cases.
If the engine is all water cooled(ie WRX or WBX incl heads) the car would have to weigh 1900lbs, up from 1750 as air cooled.
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posted on September 12th, 2005 at 12:21 AM


Well done Dave, looks like your getting there....Good move on the windows...Loads saved there! But you new that!!! But surely you could save a few lbs in the wheels....Steelys must weigh a bit? Is that body still a double skin job? How about the old 'gasser' trick....A bloody great hole in the roof!! Just jokes! More suggestions as they come to light!!
Keep it up...So envious!

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Dont worry about the lack of fast street bugs in Perth...Hermann is working on getting my old car finished with his N/A TIV (U should see it!) and he's already on the look out for a car to fit the Turbo donk....My turbo 1915 is in the works as soon as the Ragtop is on the road and my brother is looking to start on his Ragtop also. Bernie has just finished his stroker and Kurt is piecing together a stroker WBX for his supercharged LBug...And appartently theres a hotrod Fasty getting about.... When you gonna buld something? ;)




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posted on September 12th, 2005 at 11:24 AM


when I win lotto.....

Anyways, isnt my rip snorting 1835 kadron powered beast fast enough ? :P I'm sure it might get down the quarter in a tad less than 17......
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posted on September 17th, 2005 at 11:35 PM


Only saw Dave's first pass today at the jamboree - ran a tidy 11.65 into a big headwind. Hopefully ETs continue to drop over the weekend - go Dave!!



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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 05:24 AM


Lost the plot a bit with the tune up, but 11.664@112.64
12.829@106.01 missed third and by the time I found it the race was over,
11.789@112.42 clean run but as I said, lost the plot as far as tune up is concerned.
Weighed in at 1807lbs(820kg) with the plastic windows.
There was a damn Honda that ran a 11.54 so it looks like I will have to try harder!
Best 60 footer was a 1.565 which made me happy considering the weight of the car.nn[ Edited on 18-9-2005 by dangerous ]




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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 05:26 AM


Hey Dave

Is that Honda a street car?
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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 05:34 AM


Kind of Craig, What the hell are you doing up at 5am?!
I thought Financial guys sleep in till 9am...even on week days.
Only joking!
It has rego plates, but it looks pretty light...but then so are volksies.
To be fair, he's making alot of power and it is probably heavyer than the volksies.
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Car is not a street car but ONLINE PERFORMANCE's new AllMotor Civic. It weighs 803kg and reset the record at
11.54, but ran as quick as 11.3 I think at 116...perhaps some one keen can confirm this as I was going from
memory.nn[ Edited on 18-9-2005 by dangerous ]




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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 05:38 AM


Bloody hell! Is it that early?

So the Honda N/A?
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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 05:46 AM


Yes, for AllMotor must be N/A.



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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 05:49 AM


You'll just have to Kick it's Ass Dave! Get an angry right foot!!:grind:

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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 06:11 AM


11.2....not sure why.



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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 06:22 PM


Found a glitch in the fuel system but first round was on .
So I guess I will have to wait till next time tocontinue with the program.
That's 12 runs on the car so far.
MPH:107.04
111.63
112.75
113.09
113.78
113.95
114.5
114.77
112.64
106.0 (missed 3rd!)
112.42
112.33
Aside from the fuel system glitch and missed shifts, the
MPH changed with the air quality.
Last run was at 1099ft rel altitude and
the 114.77 was at 34 ft.




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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 06:50 PM


So how did you end up today Dave? Manage to better the 11.66 from yesterday?



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posted on September 18th, 2005 at 11:48 PM


This is really interesting stuff. What comp ratio does your motor run Dave ? out of curiosity.

Didnt realise the rel elevation would make that much difference to mph.
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posted on September 19th, 2005 at 06:03 AM


12.5:1 Doug.



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posted on September 19th, 2005 at 11:07 AM


Ta Dave. Is that pushing it for a drag air cooled engine ? or is that on the safe side ?

Is this on pump fuel ?

Sorry for the 20 questions, just curious....
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posted on September 19th, 2005 at 07:37 PM


It is very safe since I run methanol.
For drag racing and with methanol there is
rarely a problem with the heads getting too hot.
I can run 14:1 with just a barrel
change (soon).
Petrol based fuels with good octane, like C14plus
and C16
can run OK on 14:1 but the head temp goes up real fast
and then power goes down.
In general I would suggest the higher octane fuel on air cooled heads than the same
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posted on September 19th, 2005 at 11:31 PM
THE beasty motor ( big block)


pics 1 .Dave we can put you motor in my yellow car ( very fast):thumbnn[ Edited on 19-9-2005 by Dak-A-Tak ]

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posted on September 20th, 2005 at 08:42 AM


I love the sound of this beast when you start it up - chug chug chug like a diesel tractor! But then it fires up and whoo-hooo!



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posted on September 20th, 2005 at 11:42 AM


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posted on September 20th, 2005 at 01:22 PM


Speaking of the yellow car...where is it Pete...too many cars to choose from? ;)
So this is the beasty Dave..... Certainly a lot of room in there without the cabin charger!
Your making amazing progress given the laps in competition....Keep it up!
Is that 'red mist' coming over your eye's? Must flatten honda, must flatten honda!
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