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| posted on April 28th, 2006 at 05:17 PM |
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LOL
we're gonna finish this conversation at Mt Dandy young lady!
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| posted on April 29th, 2006 at 05:04 PM |
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Are you rewinding them for 12 V?
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yes, going to run on 12volt and have flashing lamps....
picked up the wire yesterday arvo and getting some more stuff delivered next week. Then i can rewind them, rewire them and assemble them. Should be
finished by Thursday, then gotta wire them into the car.
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| posted on May 1st, 2006 at 09:06 AM |
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Very cool, please keep posting the pics cos I've never seen any this detailed elsewhere on the net!
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| posted on May 1st, 2006 at 12:47 PM |
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no probs.... i am just waiting on a few things via post to help me automate the process of winding the coils via a lathe.
Will post more pics when they are rewound.
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| posted on May 1st, 2006 at 01:00 PM |
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please do man! i'm watching in earnest... keep up the good work
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| posted on May 7th, 2006 at 06:00 PM |
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well after a wait longer than expected i finally got the bits that i needed... have assembled most of what i need for rewinding and will finish it
off on Tuesday. Then its onto the lathe and rewind time.
Hope to have it all finished by sat for the dandy cruise.
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| posted on May 8th, 2006 at 12:44 AM |
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awesome.. I hope you get em finished so I can check em out and get you to do mine! I fricken hate electrical work..
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| posted on May 8th, 2006 at 10:30 AM |
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i dont like electrical work much either... but unfortunately i cant escape it since its part my day job... lol
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| posted on May 12th, 2006 at 09:23 AM |
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well i have had some more setbacks with these damn semaphores... have had a trial run and it appears that what i was told by the coil winding people
is incorrect!! i have two more ways of making em work that i can try so its back to the drawing board...
will post updates as i go.......
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| posted on June 20th, 2006 at 03:54 PM |
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well finally had some time to work on the semaphores again and now have the arms working on 12 volts. I now have to reassemble them and wire the lamp
seperately so that i can make it flash with the rest of the indicators. Then the fun begins of wiring them into the car.
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| posted on June 21st, 2006 at 10:52 AM |
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Excellent, I was wondering if you'd had time to do some more on this. 
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| posted on June 21st, 2006 at 03:54 PM |
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have reassembled one with seperate wiring for the globe.
retested after assembly and it works great.
Will do the other one tomorrow then hopefully put them in the car this weekend.
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| posted on June 22nd, 2006 at 07:54 PM |
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Also
Just letting interested persons know that i have 12volt semaphores.
They are all new.
Just bolt them in.:thumb Can
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| posted on July 15th, 2006 at 11:51 AM |
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well its been a while ... have reassembled both semaphores and finally did some work on the car this morning.... have run new wiring for both
semaphores but have struck a problem with the flasher unit... it does not work the way that i need it to work so am going to have to rewire part of
the indicator system in order to get a constant 12volt to the coil and a flashing 12volt to the lamp.
will update as i go.
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| posted on July 15th, 2006 at 01:21 PM |
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I've thought about this before - you'd just need to have an extra wire or two to the semaphore wouldn't you?
circuit 1- provides current for the solenoid (constant current when blinker is on)
circuit 2- is connected to the flasher can and bulb of the semaphore...
yeh?
The difficult part would be getting the extra wires to the B-pillar with the headlining still in place. Let me know how you manage this as I'll need
to do it i think...
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| posted on July 15th, 2006 at 09:09 PM |
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well the difficult part was running the wires through the existing channel in the pillar. i had one side still intact but the other side missing. the
wire was run down to the floor of the car under the back seat and hooked into the rear indicator wiring.
I have now run two new wires from the semaphores down to the floor and along under the carpets to the front then up through an existing hole to behind
the dash.
important thing to remember here is that the original design did not have a flasher unit installed as the semaphores did not flash.
the way that i thought the flasher unit worked was that the indicator lever switch is a basic 3 position switch with the common having 12volt supply
to it. Then when you indicate the 12v goes to the flasher to tell it which side you indicated then it sends 12v to the indicators etc etc....
BUT... this is not how it is wired up. the flasher unit looks like it has a 12v supply and an output terminal. the wiring from the flasher goes to
the common of the indicator switch then the two wires (for left and right signal) go to the indicator circuits. soooooo... i am assuming that what
happens is when you indicate you load and ground the flasher unit through the indicator lamps thus making it flash..
this means that i have no 12v constant supply when you indicate to control the semaphores.
so what i have come up with is this....
i will rewire the indicator switch so it has 12v supply on the common... run the two wires for direction to two seperate DPDT relays. so the
indicator switch will control the coils of the two relays - one for left indicators and one for right.
on one set of contacts i will supply 12v to the coils of the semaphores.
on the other set of contacts i will connect the flasher unit to the indicator circuit including the semaphores.
test out the theory on monday.
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| posted on July 15th, 2006 at 10:52 PM |
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man, I had to read that a couple times and do funny actions with my hands to comprehend that stuff. Sparky work is definately not my forte... good
luck with it dude... I'll be enthusiastically waiting for ya results!
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| posted on July 16th, 2006 at 08:48 PM |
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hahaha.. no probs.. bought the relays today so will put them in tomorrow.
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| posted on July 17th, 2006 at 09:50 AM |
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Looking forward to seeing how this goes as I'll be doing mine soon!
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| posted on July 17th, 2006 at 12:11 PM |
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well did all the wiring this morning... tested out the wiring before putting in semaphores to make sure nothing was wrong, turned on ignition and
nothing... dammit.. after a few deep breaths and some choice words i found a wire had come off the ignition switch!! Do'h!
so after connecting that back up the dash lights came on and the original indicators all worked as they should...
connected the semaphores and they work, one is having trouble raising as it appears to be slightly bent and doesnt sit in the recess straight. so will
take it to work and straighten it.
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| posted on July 17th, 2006 at 12:19 PM |
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So do they blink as well?
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| posted on July 17th, 2006 at 01:14 PM |
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yep.. they blink nice and bright... :thumb
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| posted on July 18th, 2006 at 09:55 AM |
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Awesome! Can you post some kind of wiring diagram? Even if it's just a scan of something scribbled on the back of an envelope, or a picture knocked
up in MS Paint. Please pretty please?
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| posted on July 18th, 2006 at 01:36 PM |
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hehehe... will see what i can knock up...
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| posted on July 18th, 2006 at 02:02 PM |
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Yay ! I am so over hearing about those blinking things, hopefully you can now move on and fix the problems with my bug !!!!
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| posted on July 18th, 2006 at 02:10 PM |
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nah... wait your turn queue jumper!! 
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 11:41 AM |
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Awesome! Can you post some kind of wiring diagram? Even if it's just a scan of something scribbled on the back of an envelope, or a picture knocked
up in MS Paint. Please pretty please?
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i can put up a wiring diagram but dont know how well it will work with your car as i dont know what the flasher unit is set up like. but will put up a
pic of mine before and after the changes.
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 01:05 PM |
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well here is a pic of how mine were and are wired.
some things i have not shown on pic are.....
i have wired the 12volt supply to the semaphores through a fuse.
i have wired up my lamps seperately and they are connected to the rest of the indicator system so they flash (lamps have to be 12v of course).
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 01:06 PM |
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sorry bout pic but you will have to open it up to full size to see it properly.
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 09:14 AM |
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That's great, and it makes good sense. Thanks very much!
Which terminals are which on the semaphore?
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