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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 02:41 PM |
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you must be lucky, that wasn't the case when i was looking at cars.
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 03:01 PM |
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blah blah blah......... VWs are NOT rare.
But yes, silver's van is rare.
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If Silvers van is rare (which it is) then the ManxSR is also rare.Similar production figures (give or take 50 units).....or does it depend only on
what you think is "rare"?????
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 03:09 PM |
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Rarity is for wankers...
Hell, I have very very rare NOS flathead conrods which I am cutting up for a shifter. All those pre 1930 restorers that will cry.... hahahaha
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 03:36 PM |
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LOLOLOL
Rarity is stuff that is NLA and one off etc
like me!
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Rarity is for wankers...
Hell, I have very very rare NOS flathead conrods which I am cutting up for a shifter. All those pre 1930 restorers that will cry.... hahahaha
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 03:40 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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you must be lucky, that wasn't the case when i was looking at cars.
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well, I don't know about what you were looking at, but people on this forum seem to be buying cars like that and posting pics of them all the time.
Mick, ok, if thats the case, Silver's van is not rare either. I thought there were only 100 or so of those made.
I don't want to be bloody minded. I'm just sick of people calling their VWs rare coz they are old, rusty, or they have spent too much money on
them.
There is a difference between an interesting, old curio and a valuable rarity. I think, again IMHO, people tend to put VWs in the latter category when
they belong in the former.
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So if there were 2 million of product "X" produced and only 100 left in the world,would YOU classify them as "rare"??? I would.Especially if there
was a demand for such a product.
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 04:25 PM |
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Try and find a container Van I know of 10 worldwide
if you find one let me know I'll buy it
and if I do sell it one day, I will call it Very Rare.
Silver
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 04:44 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Try and find a container Van I know of 10 worldwide
if you find one let me know I'll buy it
and if I do sell it one day, I will call it Very Rare.
Silver
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There is one in Bowen,QLD.The owner has it in a shipping container now after i offered to buy it.He was a grumpy sh*t. Had a fair bit of rust but not
terminal by any means!!!
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 04:55 PM |
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try again
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 05:03 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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try again
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I will be!!! Will get my old man to email me another one of the pictures of it he took 2 years ago when he gets home on Friday.I'll email it to
you.Then you will know of 11!!!!:kiss
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So who decides how small a number of something makes it rare? Is it how many are left, OR how many were manufactured?? This is all a word game. Makes
some rules, THEN play the game. A guy I know has a 250 PF Ferrari, one of 12 RHD made. Is that as rare as one of 11 privately imported split beetles?
Or the poor bloke that had a wrestle with the engineer about his individually constructed vehicle?
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| posted on July 19th, 2006 at 07:47 PM |
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I think anything that was produced in numbers of lower than 100 or so, and is of exemplary design or manufacture, and is more than 25 years old can be
classed as rare.
Yes, it's a word game, but the point is that the word has value and people are trying to sell garbage as classics using it.
I could make 5 cardboard swords and leave em in the cupboard for twenty years, but that does not make them rare, they're still cheap cardboard
garbage.
As for numbers remaining, well that's as long as a piece of string. Everytime someone says this is the last one in existance, miraculously another
two or three turn up. It then becomes about how sort after they are. If I offered you a one of a kind 16 anniversary Joe Bloggs copper medallion, you
couldn't care less, but if it's a 1961 samba, then it becomes a whole different story.
As far as I'm concerned Oasis, your signature sums it up well...
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| posted on July 20th, 2006 at 10:58 PM |
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Who cares how many were built. If there is only a handful left then it is rare. Datsun 180B's were rusty and cheap cars that 15 years ago were
everywhere. How many do you see on the roads nowdays? In 20 years time Hyundai Excells will be rare as they are built like crap and will most likely
be crushed and turned into ice-cream containers. Just because it isn't a Rolls Royce Silver Ghost in unrestored condition doesn't mean that if
there is only a few left that it isn't rare. Try this hypothetical example;
Which is rarer. They Built 15 of a particular Rolls Royce, if 10 of them still exist then 66% of the production of that model is available. Say they
built 1,000,000 Datsun etc. and for some reason only 100 are left, does that not make it rare also?
I think finding an agreement on this topic would be rare! (my 2 cents)
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 05:16 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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So if there were 2 million of product "X" produced and only 100 left in the world,would YOU classify them as "rare"??? I would.Especially if there
was a demand for such a product.
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If the survival rate is 100 out of 2,000,000, I'd classify it as a piece of shit.:P
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 05:23 PM |
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lol!!
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 05:58 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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 nice rant , I like it !:repuke
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meh, needs dragons, or ninjas, or ninja dragons. ( NOS ninja dragons obviously   )
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 06:18 PM |
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ninja dragons are rarer...
And Pete, there must be a few holy grails around too, especially if the French already had one...:P
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 07:44 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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If the survival rate is 100 out of 2,000,000, I'd classify it as a piece of shit.:P
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I'll pay that one.
I think the Bitsashitti Sigma fits in that category.
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 08:06 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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| Quote: | Originally
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So if there were 2 million of product "X" produced and only 100 left in the world,would YOU classify them as "rare"??? I would.Especially if there
was a demand for such a product.
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If the survival rate is 100 out of 2,000,000, I'd classify it as a piece of shit.:P
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That is a classic!!!:P What would you classify 5, 20 year old cardboard swords as?????
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 10:28 PM |
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my panel is RARE. Because of all the 67s produced only a handful remain with the 3 vent set up. Not that it influences price a most folks wouldnt
notice. RARE now means because they are hard to aquire. Who gives a shit how many were made originally, how many can you lay your hands on right
now.
Take an original Star Wars Millenium Falcon toy (late 70s). Not rare as almost 3/4 of a billion toys got made, but having a boxed one unplayed with
now is RARE. Hense why they fetch a few thousand.
Ive got a Kruizinwagon Treasure Hunt Drag Bus, thats rare as only 50 made. in matt black and 50 silver. The whole run was only 1000 pieces. RARE
because its the only Matt Black Drag Bus made. Even rarer, having the test piece which was Gloss, theres one of those. How about an original Beach
Bomb? RARE.
RARE is not so much relative to the numbers made, but the number left/the number available. Container vans are RARE but not impossible to get. Mullers
got one if you want it I think. Hardings (now sold), RAAF Refrig. Van is RARE. Doddys Matadors are RARE, so his deluxe.
If its in a car yard then it aint rare. If its in Ray Blacks secret hideout its RARE.
Bruce working on his Barnie ... now thats RARE....(wink).
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 10:30 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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So who decides how small a number of something makes it rare? Is it how many are left, OR how many were manufactured?? This is all a word game. Makes
some rules, THEN play the game. A guy I know has a 250 PF Ferrari, one of 12 RHD made. Is that as rare as one of 11 privately imported split beetles?
Or the poor bloke that had a wrestle with the engineer about his individually constructed vehicle?
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who decides?....THEY do...you know the mysterious THEY, the wizards.
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| posted on July 21st, 2006 at 11:53 PM |
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Seeing Bruces Barnie on the road - that would be rare.
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Haha
But this topic has been done before, and ive never seen some of the models pete spoke of so in my eyes they are rare...
Even petes buggy is rare, thank god for that...
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 12:01 AM |
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Should be two frids at valla, now that will be rare
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 12:01 AM |
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These sort of discussions on avd since dave left, now thats rare
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 12:02 AM |
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Sorry Bruce, cheap shot ... just green with ... Barnies are rare, running or not. 2 Barnies are even better. Did you get the Show Time issue sorted?
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 AM |
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No, getting showtime to answer the phone and pick up your car when he says he will, now thats rare...
Have another towing co. very relaible
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 12:22 AM |
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So youve got it now?
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| posted on July 22nd, 2006 at 08:50 AM |
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getting Deano to shut up...Now that's rare
getting Pete to keep his opinion to himself....never happened in the history of time...
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