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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 08:33 AM |
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cant remember exactly what we used, but im sure sikaflex would be the go, it dries but stays flexible
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I use sikaflex on lots of stuff. But I wouldn't use it on the pan seal. 
you will never separate the body again without damaging something lol 
the sealant that VW used is a bitumen based no curing sealant. its used on most modern cars and is available at most auto paint and restoration
suppliers.
its kind of like sticky blu tack. comes in black and grey normally
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 09:27 AM |
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i used selleys windscreen sealant. Great stuff  Just use turps to
wash off hands. It was great until supercheap had no more on the shelf and the deuch bag across the road at Beenleigh autobarn gave me K&H
windscreen sealer (cos its the same... 'apparently') till 3 days later i was scratching my head as to why it didn't cure into an adhesive. (sealer
not sealant... Serves me right for trusting a salesman, gets me stung every time)
Should make the dude come to my garage and clean the crap off
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 07:21 PM |
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I think he did you a favor. you don't want it to cure.
I am pretty sure vw knew what they were doing
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 07:29 PM |
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cant remember exactly what we used, but im sure sikaflex would be the go, it dries but stays flexible
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I use sikaflex on lots of stuff. But I wouldn't use it on the pan seal.
you will never separate the body again without damaging something lol
the sealant that VW used is a bitumen based no curing sealant. its used on most modern cars and is available at most auto paint and restoration
suppliers.
its kind of like sticky blu tack. comes in black and grey normally
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bullshit we use sika at work to seal soft patches on a boat. we never have any problem getting them back up.
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 07:40 PM |
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yeah thats a boat not a floorpan.
I am just saying if you use sikaflex its going to be pretty much permanent.
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 07:46 PM |
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im talking on fibreglass panels on a fibreglass boat.
if you dont he repairs right the first time do you really need to separate the pan again anytime soon after mounting it
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 07:58 PM |
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ok 20 years down the track I might.
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| posted on December 28th, 2010 at 08:06 PM |
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the longer its there the easier it is to lift trust me. ive been doing this for 11 years and have never had one that wouldnt lift.
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| posted on December 30th, 2010 at 05:05 AM |
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we made a concrete building for victrack that they wanted the roof to be able to be lifted off so we glued down the roof panel with sikaflex. fast
forward a few years they tried to remove the roof and they lifted the whole building! weight of concrete building about 8 tonne.
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| posted on December 30th, 2010 at 09:13 AM |
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Exactly
see I told ya so.
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| posted on December 30th, 2010 at 09:25 AM |
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mactaylor, what materials are you talking that the panel was made out of. if it was porous of course its going to stick. we are talking about sticking
2 almost perfectly smooth surfaces together. they separate a little easier than a porous pair as they have more surface area.
the trick is to only use a thin bead around the whole seal then bolt it all together so that its an even thinner layer once squashed down.
ideally id only use it in the corners where the joins are as the seal should do its job every where else. so we are talking about a 2inch section at
the most.
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| posted on January 1st, 2011 at 10:01 PM |
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off form finished concrete! like a highly polished concrete floor, it sticks like shit to a blanket, but you can remove it its just a pain. there is a
primer if your worried about adhesion but ive only used it a couple of times. ive never used it for car related jobs but its a great product for
concrete!
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| posted on January 2nd, 2011 at 10:46 PM |
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primer if methyl ketone and not sold to public as its a great poison..liver/kidney
sikaflex is a great flexible sealer used through industry inc cars, trailers, boat often used to hold together panels instead of welds.
Best was to remove is to slice with a knife then lift and slice again. No problems.
Turps weakens bonds too, so not the best for prep work.
Products available to lift/semi-disolve sikaflex but once again not to general public. Personally never need them. Usually once your under an edge it
can be pulled of and added with a knife scrapper if needed.
I guess its each and every to their own.
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| posted on January 3rd, 2011 at 05:28 PM |
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oh no not MEK or aka butanone. I used that at work few time. so toxic
Glad I stopped working.
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