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 GTMac
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 12:33 PM |
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138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water 
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 01:10 PM |
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138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water
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2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400cc
So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.
My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 03:07 PM |
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HP = Investment / Time + Continual Improvement.
As Pete said, Craig and Stan haven't got to where they are by sitting on their asses. The figures that Craig is getting as per the equation, is by an
investment into his motor combination over a period of time, and continually striving for that extra edge. That's how you get in front of the pack.
When it comes to circuit racing, no one is going to give away their secrets. The tweaking that's been done is a financial investment to get to those
figures, and when you're racing, you want to have more power and a better setup than your opponent. Yeah you can buy something off the shelf that
will be close to Craig's, but if you want to get those figures, you're going to be up for some $$$$$$$$$.
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 04:10 PM |
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EASY GUYS 130 HP = $13000.00...DON'T KNOW WHAT STAN CHARGES....OR BUY MY CAR....
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 04:12 PM |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU7fKAwsyLg
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 04:17 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by GTMac
138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water
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2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400cc
So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.
My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!
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Whats this "real capacity" crap, its a 2l at the end of the day no matter whats done to it. I aint knocking your hp numbers, there good from what I
can tell but a hell of lot of mods from stock to get there, ummm I think I added a Mictotech to mine. We can compare figures again come February 2010
if you like
Fot interest where did multiplier of 1.7 come from?
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How many sets of lights does it take a $229k Carrera S to learn?
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 05:02 PM |
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Hi
The 1.7 is a CAMS thing. Which still means you cant compare NA to turbo.
Steve
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 07:48 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by GTMac
| Quote: | Originally
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by GTMac
138hp is that all? Thats what I get from one side of my engine. Come on Craigy add a little water
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2lt turbo "real capacity" is 2lt x 1.7= 3400cc
So 3400cc gives you 242hp atw = 1hp/14cc engine capacity.
My 1916cc NA gives me 138hp atw= 1hp/13.8cc engine capacity....... sorry mate, who's producing more HP per cc ??!
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Whats this "real capacity" crap, its a 2l at the end of the day no matter whats done to it. I aint knocking your hp numbers, there good from what I
can tell but a hell of lot of mods from stock to get there, ummm I think I added a Mictotech to mine. We can compare figures again come February 2010
if you like
Fot interest where did multiplier of 1.7 come from?
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yep you can compare your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 08:44 PM |
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| Quote: | yep you can compare
your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor
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We can do that now if you like, mine dont blow smoke! Or do Mitsubishi actually make one engine that does not blow smoke?
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How many sets of lights does it take a $229k Carrera S to learn?
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 09:23 PM |
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I love these threads - hilarious!
For me it is a fantastic thing that Stan Pobjoy has been a constant part of the VW scene for years.
He is a real character from a bygone era - he was formally trained in manufacturing - in the aviation industry no less!
Trained in an era when real standards mattered and if you got it wrong you got your arse handed to you by your supervisor.
I wonder how much real understanding is taught now - or is all 'protocol driven' CNC crap. To think your way around a problem takes real
understanding - not guesswork.
I think all would be better off trying to understand how Stan does it - after all - he is still the benchmark.
This should be fun,
Smile - It confuses people 
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 09:38 PM |
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Who's Stan?
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| posted on October 29th, 2009 at 11:16 PM |
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well said,
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| posted on October 30th, 2009 at 05:16 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Craig Torrens
yep you can compare your 2lt subaru motor with my 2lt mitsubishi motor
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Sigma's are cool cars.
I did not know you were a fan of them Craig?
I'd love to get in on this discussion,
but unfortunatly I dont make anywhere near those hp/cc numbers.
Now all I have, to assist with my elevated sense of self esteem,
is my enormous genitals.
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on October 30th, 2009 at 06:26 PM |
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Dave you are a sick and surprisingly comic guy  
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| posted on October 30th, 2009 at 10:13 PM |
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OMG
Where has this thread gone???
Com'on Muffin man.....WAKE UP
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| posted on October 31st, 2009 at 05:51 AM |
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self deriding comic legend! maybe dave you should start whoring you body out. just imagine how fast your pan car would go with all the money you would
be making.
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| posted on October 31st, 2009 at 06:05 PM |
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THIS is a good topic ive seen lol....Ian i have chicken salt on my
popcorn thanks.....
Performance motor builders never give out there secrets!
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| posted on October 31st, 2009 at 06:54 PM |
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this is not, a good thread.
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