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posted on April 5th, 2010 at 06:00 PM |
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Here is the look I am trying to achieve
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Hi
You will find the front tyres rubbing with Your front suspension down that low..
but smaller tyres will do the job... but will still look smaller...
with 165 x 85 x 15 on the front, You won't have to lower the front so far down...
and your speedo will be close to the mark..
If You don't have any large speed bumps or rough roads, You can go lower than My beetle's front..
when i had it lower...
turning and hitting a bump... would cause My tyres to rub on the guard lip ...
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posted on April 5th, 2010 at 09:02 PM |
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thansk lee, once I get my wheels i will take it to a tyre place and work out whats best then take the car to Raw auto Werks to work out how low i can
go, I dont want to go too low just enough that the front end isnt pointing into the sky like it currently does lol
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posted on April 6th, 2010 at 08:52 PM |
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165/65 nankangs are the bomb for what your after they have a nice appearance very soft compound so they grip well look good and have alot of
clearance.
They`re just like smart car tyre`s but a little wider and safer.
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posted on April 6th, 2010 at 09:08 PM |
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thanks Matt will have a look at them
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posted on April 8th, 2010 at 01:15 PM |
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Anybody have those V-Force Spyders on their cars, they sure look like a nice wheel
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posted on April 15th, 2010 at 12:02 AM |
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Paul,
The best size tyre for a 5.5 inch rim is a 175 or 185.
Continental make a 175/65, that would make a good front tyre. Lower profile, less chance of rubbing the guard.
Most tyre brands make a 185/65. Plenty of contact patch, and not too big for the 5.5 Empi rim.
Diameter - tyre sizes
155/15/80 - 629mm - almost factory
175/15/65 - 608mm - good clearence, when the front is lowered, inaccurate speedo.
185/15/65 - 622mm - perfect rear tyre on a 5.5 inch Empi.
Have fun!
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posted on April 15th, 2010 at 06:01 AM |
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205/65 rear 195/60 /15on front
205/60 rear and 195/50/15
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love the look are you using drop spindles or an adjustable beam ?
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posted on April 15th, 2010 at 06:04 AM |
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Paul,
The best size tyre for a 5.5 inch rim is a 175 or 185.
Continental make a 175/65, that would make a good front tyre. Lower profile, less chance of rubbing the guard.
Most tyre brands make a 185/65. Plenty of contact patch, and not too big for the 5.5 Empi rim.
Diameter - tyre sizes
155/15/80 - 629mm - almost factory
175/15/65 - 608mm - good clearence, when the front is lowered, inaccurate speedo.
185/15/65 - 622mm - perfect rear tyre on a 5.5 inch Empi.
Have fun!
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thanks for the suggestion the more i look into it the more i think ill go with 195/65 on the rear and 175/60 on the front
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posted on April 20th, 2010 at 06:49 AM |
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Certainly look like going with drop spindles rather than a new beam, just have to wait for the wheels to arrive although I'm told they wont be here
until Mid july
The tyres will most likely be Falken ZE912 front 175/60 and rear 195/65
Wouldnt mind 205/65 but I think the tyre would be too close to the guard and maybe illegal
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posted on April 25th, 2010 at 07:10 AM |
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Hi
I have 165 x 80 x 15 on the front...
and the same on the rear... on 6 inch wide wheels...
I used to have 205 x 65 x 15 on the rear...
My front end is lowered...
as far as it can go without rubbing on the guard lip when turning. when it was really low, the ride was very harsh too..
Rear hasn't been lowered...
165 x 80 x 15 tyres are 645mm diameter approx
205 x 70 x 15 tyres are 668 mm diameter approx
205 x 65 x 15 tyres are 647mm diameter approx
I did find the sizes and diameters etc for different brands of tyres but can't find where i wrote it down...
I was looking to see what tyres to put on the rear so My engine isn't revving as hard...
I am thinking of 205 x 70 x 15 which are 668mm diameter..
I've searched for the info... but can;t find it...
saw it recently when not looking for it..lol
check out cars with very low front ends and very small tyres...
and whether you like the look... and rough ride...
If You live in the city and don't have rough roads...
a small narrow tyre will be OK....
I personally don't like that idea... and don't like the look..
remembering that most of braking is with the front wheels...
cheers
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Lee where did you get your wheels from they look really nice. I am in two minds whether I should go with the Empi 8 spokes or whether i should stay
with a more traditional style of wheel
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posted on May 2nd, 2010 at 05:34 PM |
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Ok went down to Blast from the past and met up with rod Penrose, we were discussing wheels and tyres (I am buying the EMPI 8 from Rod) I told him I
was thinking of putting 175 V60 on the fronts and he wasnt sure if they would fit on 5 and a half inch wheels.
Has anyone tried 175 on those wheels or should i go for 185, of course the problem is the wider the tyres the greater chance of rubbing on the guards
when i install the drop spindles
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 10:42 AM |
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Get the 185's. more tyre choices i think and will be fine with drop spindles. Height has as much to do with rubbibg as the width. I ran 65s from
memory on drop spindles only and a 6 inch jap rim.
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 05:27 PM |
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186 / 60 should be fine for the front then? i know the speedo will be out by i can live with that
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 05:39 PM |
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You do know drop spindles are wider than normal spindles ???
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 05:43 PM |
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yes i do and if they dont fit with the drop spindles then we will have to get a narrowed and adjustable beam it just means more $$$$ I may have to
consider selling the wife she has a few k's left in her lol
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 07:30 PM |
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The question is do I install the drop spindles first then match the tyres or do i buy the tyres first?
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 08:39 PM |
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Get the drop spindles fitted, It will be drivable with your stock wheels. You will have some idea on what you have to work with then, or can try
someone elses wheels etc.
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 08:55 PM |
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Paul i have empi 8 spokes on my 69 and they do sit out close to the gaurd,if you want you can cruize down one weekend and put my wheels on your car
and see how you like them cheers shane.
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 08:58 PM |
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thanks for the offer but im not game on driving that distance while i have the existing tyres, were you at Berry yesterday?
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 09:00 PM |
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Paul i have empi 8 spokes on my 69 and they do sit out close to the gaurd,if you want you can cruize down one weekend and put my wheels on your car
and see how you like them cheers shane.
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What size tyres do you have? Is the car lowered if so how?
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 09:31 PM |
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Yes i was at the show but i didnt have a car there, im running 185 65 15 on the front and its lowered a little cheers shane.
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 09:33 PM |
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looks great im going for 185/60 on the front i think
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posted on May 3rd, 2010 at 09:40 PM |
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They would work well,i only whent for this size because thats all they had in stock at the time,i only have adjusters at the moment and thats as low
it will go they have been put in wrong??? im going to do my own beam and narrow it a little and put adjusters in
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posted on May 4th, 2010 at 04:47 PM |
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They would work well,i only whent for this size because thats all they had in stock at the time,i only have adjusters at the moment and thats as low
it will go they have been put in wrong??? im going to do my own beam and narrow it a little and put adjusters in
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Shane,
The car looks pretty good, mine is screaming to have the front lowered as I am not fond of the standard look where the front is higher than the rear.
I am leaning more to get the drop spindles installed before the wheels and tyres that way i can mix and match the front tyres for the best result
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posted on May 6th, 2010 at 07:54 PM |
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Standard height at the rear and 2.5 dropped spindles at the front. I was running 165's on standard rims and they rubbed while turning with passengers
in the car. Changed them to 135's at the front, maybe a little bit too narrow for my liking. Next time Ill get 145's. I noticed about a 10% change
in the speedo going to the smaller front tyres. This photo is with the 165's. Of coarse, if you are using empi's then perhaps the offset is also
different from standard rims? Also once you start going wider you get more choices of sidewall profile to allow you to fit wider tyres. Have fun
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posted on May 6th, 2010 at 08:05 PM |
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65 bug swing rear short axles K & l front narrowed 20mm
Porsche Fuchs Origionals all round 6 x 15
Rear tyre 195 x 60 x 15
Front tyre 185 x 55 x 15
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Standard height at the rear and 2.5 dropped spindles at the front. I was running 165's on standard rims and they rubbed while turning with passengers
in the car. Changed them to 135's at the front, maybe a little bit too narrow for my liking. Next time Ill get 145's. I noticed about a 10% change
in the speedo going to the smaller front tyres. This photo is with the 165's. Of coarse, if you are using empi's then perhaps the offset is also
different from standard rims? Also once you start going wider you get more choices of sidewall profile to allow you to fit wider tyres. Have fun
shopping!
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thanks for the info, like the cars profile, hmmm i guess there is a chance i will also need a narrowed beam?
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65 bug swing rear short axles K & l front narrowed 20mm
Porsche Fuchs Origionals all round 6 x 15
Rear tyre 195 x 60 x 15
Front tyre 185 x 55 x 15
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Any pics?
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posted on May 23rd, 2010 at 03:46 PM |
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After seeing this car (Does anybody here own it?) I am glad I have ordered the EMPI 8 spoke polished. This dub had V65 at the rear and V55 at the
front whereas I am going for V65 at rear and V60 at the front.
All in all its the rake i like
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Ok went down to Blast from the past and met up with rod Penrose, we were discussing wheels and tyres (I am buying the EMPI 8 from Rod) I told him I
was thinking of putting 175 V60 on the fronts and he wasnt sure if they would fit on 5 and a half inch wheels.
Has anyone tried 175 on those wheels or should i go for 185, of course the problem is the wider the tyres the greater chance of rubbing on the guards
when i install the drop spindles
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Hi
I believe 165s are wide enough for the front of a lowered beetle...
185s are a very wide front tyre.. IMHO..
although You are going lower profile....
I did have 185s on My 6 inch chromed rims when I got them
had nothing but rubbing problems...
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