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 HappyDaze
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| posted on July 15th, 2010 at 03:40 PM |
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Phil, Rosemeyer was, in my opinion, one of the best! The story goes that he was a motorbike rider, and he asked for a drive of the Auto Union at a
test day. He went out and lapped quicker than anyone had ever done before.  The rest is history. He met his end on the speed record attempt, as you said, when hit by a cross wind.
Cross winds and swing-axles are not good friends. At Bathurst in 1962, my Beetle was motoring happily down Con-Rod Straight (no Caltex Chase then,
staight all the way)at 102 MPH (165 KPH) when suddenly at the exit of the cutting the cross wind hit! The car hopped sideways about a metre and woke
me up immediately. Rocking the body like that causes rear wheel steer, as one rear wheel 'toes out' as the other 'toes in'. A bit scary when
you're not expecting it, but it never caught me again - next time I was ready for it.
Cheers, Greg
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hellbugged
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| posted on July 15th, 2010 at 04:42 PM |
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i for one would love to hear and see youre theories greg as im a swinger link pin terrorist too!
You coming up to valla?
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| posted on July 15th, 2010 at 05:06 PM |
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another brave man Damien, : swing axle is ok when u known what your doing
not for beginners..
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hellbugged
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| posted on July 15th, 2010 at 05:12 PM |
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oh dear im in trouble then!
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sander288
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| posted on July 15th, 2010 at 07:28 PM |
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that said, you'll never know what your doing if you never start... so we should all drive swingers and go hard! 
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| posted on July 15th, 2010 at 07:43 PM |
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posted by sander288
that said, you'll never know what your doing if you never start... so we should all drive swingers and go hard!
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Gotta be a few lines in there somewhere but I think I'll just move right on along. 
I dream of a day when a chicken can cross a road without being asked for it's motive!
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| posted on July 15th, 2010 at 08:05 PM |
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When I built my bug(1990),the advantage of an IRS chasis over a swing axle was that the later gear box was stronger.Is this still the case,or can you
now build a strong swing arm box.
I blew 2 early boxes when I had swing axle.(1640cc P plater)The IRS chasis and later box seemed to be much tougher.
I also found that with the IRS chasis,from a 69 semi auto, my 66 delux handled alot better.
Im no expert but if you go swing axle,run a camber/caster bar like they do in formula vee.It will minimise rear wheel tuck,prone to swing axle
suspensions.
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68AutoBug
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posted by HappyDaze
The rear suspension often referred to as 'IRS' is, IMHO, trailing- arm.
Surely swing-axle and trailing-arm are both independent rear suspension (IRS). Hope it doesn't sound pedantic, but non-VW people - yes, there are some - have trouble understanding.
Cheers, Greg
P.S. Guess which IRS I prefer?
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Naturally they are both Independant rear suspension...
not a live axle which was in one piece...
either wheel can go up or down....
but swing axles YIKES...
the wheels go in and out.... while you are driving...
massive camber changes... can't be good at speed..
and I've never rolled a CV joint IRS.... lol
because the wheels don't go in and out....
so, I'm a converted IRS person... VW driver...
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| posted on July 16th, 2010 at 07:41 AM |
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ok u swingaxle guys lets see u blokes enter a supersprint at easterncreek,love to see a swinger going through turn 1 at 180 kph plus
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HappyDaze
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| posted on July 16th, 2010 at 07:48 AM |
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I'd have a go, but my car won't do 180kph. It does (or did) the kink at Wakefield at 160kph, though.
Cheers, Greg
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| posted on July 16th, 2010 at 07:57 AM |
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been in a spin at turn 1 at 190kph in my old bug went around 4 times in the middle of 25 other racers lots of smoke of the tyres but never felt lke it
was going to roll...wakefield kink is a non event sorry
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HappyDaze
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| posted on July 16th, 2010 at 11:54 AM |
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Turn one at Eastern Creek IS great - been round there at over 200kph in the 'VW Fairmont' (GT-3 Porsche).  That's got a proper rear end though (double wishbones)
Cheers, Greg
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| posted on July 16th, 2010 at 01:11 PM |
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gt3 thats cheating
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