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 oval TOFU
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| posted on July 25th, 2010 at 12:37 PM |
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So that's a few hands up for the Nulon GL70 additive? 
I can't remember -- are you supposed to fill the tranny with the rear axles under load or jacked up?
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| posted on July 25th, 2010 at 05:00 PM |
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I have always used Castrol VMX80 GL4 rated
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| posted on July 25th, 2010 at 06:34 PM |
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So that's a few hands up for the Nulon GL70 additive?
I can't remember -- are you supposed to fill the tranny with the rear axles under load or jacked up?
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I have IRS and cv joints so I don't know... ??
I would presume with the axles down...???
never ever thought of that....
more oil the better... with oil filled axles..??
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| posted on July 25th, 2010 at 06:59 PM |
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Since the oil change there has been oil coming out at the shift rod on the cone. I choose to ignore that.
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Hi
You can buy those seals and brass bushing as an assembly..
I bought Mine from the USA but I'm sure they would be available at a VW parts shop...
maybe You put too much oil in the gearbox..
and the bush/seal is worn....
but its better than too little oil ... lol
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Nah. Couldn't be too much oil, unless I found a way to fill it past the filler plug.
What are the seals and bushes called? As it is it is missing nearly every seal from bumper to bumper. been slowly rectifying that.
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| posted on July 25th, 2010 at 09:11 PM |
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Hi,
I have been running a redline synthitic in my gearbox for 3 years with a improvment in shifting and general quiteness
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I'll be replacing my gearbox oil in my Golf soon to (yes I know, a very differant tranny setup compared to a Beetle)
Everything I've read says that Redline make some of the best gearbox oils out there. Sourcing the stuff locally can be hard though.
Yet I'll be a hypocrit by using a differant synthetic that we used in my dads Ute.
I believe its called Marque 75W/90 API: GL5 MT-1 and it significantly improved the Bravo's cold shifting over the first 30km's the car was driven
after the change. A fully synthetic oil too.
Be nice to know if anybody else has used this stuff, because if it lets me down, then Im going straight to Redline. I might also have to try the G 70
additive from Nulon, we sell it at Supercheap so I might just grab a tube next time Im on.
Keep this thread going, gearbox oils is a surprisingly interesting subject
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| posted on July 25th, 2010 at 09:29 PM |
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I cant remember what i used.
But its not that bad of a job.
I did it without even using a jack,in about 30mins.
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Hi
part number for bush with seal
131 301 225B from CIP1
seal part number seems to be the same?
15mm x 24mm x 7mm wide...
LEE
check out; 131 301 225B CIP1
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| posted on July 26th, 2010 at 12:07 PM |
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posted by oval TOFU
I can't remember -- are you supposed to fill the tranny with the rear axles under load or jacked up?
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Fill it with the car sitting level on the ground, not jacked up.
The fill bung is higher than the axle tubes so the oil flows out into them.
Unless you have a slammed car with bulk camber you shouldn't have any dramas.
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| posted on July 26th, 2010 at 12:41 PM |
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I cant remember what i used.
But its not that bad of a job.
I did it without even using a jack,in about 30mins.
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Can't remember if it has been said, but remove the filler plug first, people!
It is an easy job. There have been many a person left up the creek by draining their tranny oil then discovering they can't get the filler to
undo.
I bought a tool off ebay or oztion a while back for undoing those plugs. It's pretty much a bolt head welded on to a strong bent bit of bar. Does the
job great. Filler and drain plugs are in fear of me and my mighty leverage!
Speaking of which, anyone know, or is the seller of them? They also made VW valve spring compressors and trolley jack mount engine cradles. Really
wish I'd bought one of the spring tools when they were selling them.
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Ah, so one needs to put the car on ramps in order to get to the filler plug. I can vaguely remember doing that 'correctly' many years ago. I now
just jack up the rear, take off the left wheel and fill up the oil until the oil level hits the bottom of the filler hole. So when the axels are
under load again (with my negative camber) there will be more oil in the actual gearbox. I hope that's not what is making the 'box leak a little
from the over filling...
There's no way I'd be able to access the filler without jacking up the bug.. It doesn't have the approach angle clearance for car ramps either!
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| posted on July 26th, 2010 at 02:27 PM |
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YES....
that refill plug can be very difficult to undo....
but doesn't need to be done that tight....
its a a tapered thread...
I used a couple of nuts welded onto a bolt then cut the bolt off.
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| posted on July 26th, 2010 at 07:07 PM |
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I just went to the shed to see what type of oil it was. It is GL4 and has heaps of fancy sounding grading crap. But what stood out is it says
universal gear oil. What's in a name? Well if it is not right at least it hasn't been driven far. Probably less than 50km. No matter what it has to
better than what I believe to be 35+ year old battered hydrocarbon soup that used to be oil a long time ago.
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| posted on July 26th, 2010 at 09:30 PM |
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Can't remember if it has been said, but remove the filler plug first, people! It is an easy job. There have been many a person left up the creek by
draining their tranny oil then discovering they can't get the filler to undo. I bought a tool off ebay or oztion a while back for undoing those
plugs. It's pretty much a bolt head welded on to a strong bent bit of bar. Does the job great. Filler and drain plugs are in fear of me and my mighty
leverage! Speaking of which, anyone know, or is the seller of them? They also made VW valve spring compressors and trolley
jack mount engine cradles. Really wish I'd bought one of the spring tools when they were selling them.
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Tristan,
He goes by the username yasdnil01. He gets on here, so shoot him a pm. He is also on ebay and oztion using the same name (Lindsay, spelt backwards)
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| posted on July 26th, 2010 at 09:44 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by oval TOFU
Ah, so one needs to put the car on ramps in order to get to the filler plug. I can vaguely remember doing that 'correctly' many years ago. I now
just jack up the rear, take off the left wheel and fill up the oil until the oil level hits the bottom of the filler hole. So when the axels are
under load again (with my negative camber) there will be more oil in the actual gearbox. I hope that's not what is making the 'box leak a little
from the over filling...
There's no way I'd be able to access the filler without jacking up the bug.. It doesn't have the approach angle clearance for car ramps either!
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Chris,
You could always jack it up then set it down on the ramps to get the axles loaded & give you room to get in. You would then need to move your jack
around to the front and use the spirit level on the running board trick to get the whole car level.
Much easier to use a mechanics pit if you can dig one in your garage
Regards,
Matt.
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| posted on July 26th, 2010 at 11:25 PM |
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posted by Matt Ryan
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Can't remember if it has been said, but remove the filler plug first, people! It is an easy job. There have been many a person left up the creek by
draining their tranny oil then discovering they can't get the filler to undo. I bought a tool off ebay or oztion a while back for undoing those
plugs. It's pretty much a bolt head welded on to a strong bent bit of bar. Does the job great. Filler and drain plugs are in fear of me and my mighty
leverage! Speaking of which, anyone know, or is the seller of them? They also made VW valve spring compressors and trolley
jack mount engine cradles. Really wish I'd bought one of the spring tools when they were selling them.
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Tristan,
He goes by the username yasdnil01. He gets on here, so shoot him a pm. He is also on ebay and oztion using the same name (Lindsay, spelt backwards)
Regards,
Matt.
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That sounds familiar. thank you very much Matt!
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| posted on July 27th, 2010 at 11:30 PM |
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Well... first 600ks and all's good. Interestingly the shifter rattle has disappeared, even though it would normally be attributable to a worn shift
rod bushing. Gear changes are snick snick easy (not that they weren't easy before). Side note: Castrol VMX 80 is interchangeable with the GL-4
Synthetic. Castrol Website recommends the VMX 80, but if you're looking to throw away thirty bucks a litre You have the option of upgrading. My
Nulon/Castrol mix feels happier than wtf was in there previously (including the mass of gluggy metal stuck to the magnet on the plug).
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IThey also made VW valve spring compressors and trolley jack mount engine cradles. Really wish I'd bought one of the spring tools when they were
selling them.
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My Son has the spring compressors and trolley jack mount etc..
Make taking the engine out and moving it very easy...
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Side note: Castrol VMX 80 is interchangeable with the GL-4 Synthetic.
Castrol Website recommends the VMX 80, but if you're looking to throw away thirty bucks a litre You have the option of upgrading. :
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| posted on July 28th, 2010 at 09:02 PM |
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I think VMX 80 is just a dino version straight 80W oil. maybe. either way volksies would probably stand canola oil without baulking if they're not
driven hard I'm just glad not to have to think about the crap flying
around inside the gearbox for the next 500 years 
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| posted on July 28th, 2010 at 10:42 PM |
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Ah, so one needs to put the car on ramps in order to get to the filler plug. I can vaguely remember doing that 'correctly' many years ago. I now
just jack up the rear, take off the left wheel and fill up the oil until the oil level hits the bottom of the filler hole. So when the axels are
under load again (with my negative camber) there will be more oil in the actual gearbox. I hope that's not what is making the 'box leak a little
from the over filling...
There's no way I'd be able to access the filler without jacking up the bug.. It doesn't have the approach angle clearance for car ramps either!
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Chris,
You could always jack it up then set it down on the ramps to get the axles loaded & give you room to get in. You would then need to move your jack
around to the front and use the spirit level on the running board trick to get the whole car level.
Much easier to use a mechanics pit if you can dig one in your garage
Regards,
Matt.
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Heya Matt!
Good suggestion - I COULD do that, if I cared enough! hehe. I just top it up with the axles unloaded - I figured that the gears are simply a little
bit more submerged in oil than 'normal'. It's not like an engine where too-high oil level will increase oil pressure and bust seals...
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| posted on August 2nd, 2010 at 10:20 PM |
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i overfilled mine by about 100 ml to allow for 'spot marking'.
bit extra can't hurt; worst thing is probably frothing, but with the new super ultra additives it will be a cold day in hell before my gearbox gives
a toss. How does one overfill? drive the front up on ramps and jack the back up as high as a supacheap trolley jack will get you. it doesn't get as
high as the front.
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