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 NUG637
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 02:16 PM |
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man, bit sad your gettin burnt around here for asking questions? i agree i would role it any day of the week (if i had the money) but would be cool to
know the real history of the car and how alot of 54 styles parts ended up on it?
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 02:17 PM |
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p.s. give me real boobs over fakes any day of the week... 
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 03:45 PM |
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getting burnt?? WTF!! apply SPF n get on with it foolin funny I need tissues to qipw up the tears
give me a break
ditto real boobs over fake as well I agree 
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 04:01 PM |
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Just reread thread and add.
Type3disease, sorry if I was too hard on you, your post sounded to me with your 'god only knows' to be so sceptical.......so have a couple of bags
of crete.
The answers given on ebay to peoples questions regarding originality all make sense to me.
Be a nice purchase.
Interesting to see $$$
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NUG637
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 04:54 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by h
getting burnt?? WTF!! apply SPF n get on with it foolin funny I need tissues to qipw up the tears
give me a break
ditto real boobs over fake as well I agree
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h your my hero, you must be cool
SMB 
Matberry - i to am interested to see how it goes for $$$
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 05:24 PM |
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saw this boat displayed over a year ago. was on a trailer then
sign said it was a 1952 and 1/2 ?
1954 Beetle
2003 Beetle 2.0
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 07:05 PM |
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I would like.
If I win lotto tomorrow night I will put a 30k bid on there. I can only dream.
Do you think if I ask santa nicely he will bring it for me
And the question what's it worth is like asking how longs a bit of string
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 07:13 PM |
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some kiwis are telling me it 'could' even for that (30k) or more!
1954 Beetle
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2004 Turbo Beetle 1.8
2007 Touareg tdi (retired)
2009 Pajero Tdi Shorty (retired)
2011 FJ Crusier
1973 P76
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Porsche 550
zooey deschanel
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 07:14 PM |
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Here is another two bobs worth on this topic.
October 1952 brought many changes to the Beetle as a result of a worldwide Quality Improvement program commenced by Wolfsburg in April 1952 and
finishing in mid 1954. The late 1952 model (as distinct from the early 1952 had many changes including;
1.Syncro on 2nd,3rd and 4th
2.Redesinged instrument panel
3.Vent wing added to doors
4 Rim sizes reduced down to 15 inch
5.New side body moldings introduced
6.Rear boot handle made into a T piece
7.Front boot handle modified and made longer
8.Access plate dropped from luggage area under carpet
9.Torsion bars reduced from 25mm to 24mm
There were many others.
Late 1952 vehicles commenced with chassis # 1-0397023
I see the seller states the "2'" in the chassis # 1-2340509
id difficult to read. If this # "2" is really an "0" and I suspect it is, then this is a mid to late produced 1952 vehicle albeit with a number
of late model parts including
-chrome on the rear split windows
-vent wings on door.
-heart tail lights
The real giveaway to me would be
1. the location of the inside reading light and if it was sitting above the split window at rear of the vehicle
I dont have any concern this is a genuine split.
The motor looks like a 1954 model as best I can tell.
I think Phil might be on the money with his comments around the CKD production in South Africa. It happened here in Clayton so why not South
Africa.
My call is a pre October 1952 production.
countrybuggybill ( and no expert on Split Beetles.)
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 07:32 PM |
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good info
the engine number when i saw it last was 1 0694993
1954 Beetle
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2007 Touareg tdi (retired)
2009 Pajero Tdi Shorty (retired)
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 07:43 PM |
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Dang ill take the fakes over old sages anyday
it's out of my pice range when it hit a buck fifty
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 07:43 PM |
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thanks countrybuggybill this is the sorta stuff I wanna see and read
would love to know your source internet or books? if you're happy to share - this is very handy info in helping me answer questions about my own car
- and shed some light on this one for sale
I'd genuinely like to invest in this one too and am just trying to get ahead of the 8 ball on it so I know what I am or not in for... (not that my
budget will neccissarily see me successful - fingers crossed)
thanks again Mattberry a bigger man might apologies without the concrete comments - so you read my question wrong - mate don't be hard on yourself -
thats the thing with the internet you don't always hear the tone or pitch of someones voice to determine what angle they might be coming from... but
thats cool mate you're only human too...!
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 11:08 PM |
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Everyone check out ,
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/cat.php?id=65
will give you a good Idea on value or maybe what you can find for sale and prices .
Would look just right in my garage , lowed and nice wheels .
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| posted on November 12th, 2010 at 11:25 PM |
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yeh good point but we are on an island
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| posted on November 13th, 2010 at 11:49 AM |
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$17,600
Not bad with a week left.
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| posted on November 13th, 2010 at 01:36 PM |
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The Samba is a good starting point and a good 'general' reference, but you have to remember that it's a US site and is designed for VWs sold on the
US market. The Samba doesn't know about Australian-made VWs - nor South African ones. The Samba's year-by-year changes, chassis numbers, engine
codes and paint/trim info is often not correct for non-US cars.
For German year-by-year changes, as Bill has detailed, the very best source is a book series called 'Kafer - Eine Dokumentation' by Heinz Rudiger
Etzold. It was published in the '80s, in four volumes. There was an English translated edition called the 'Beetle Chronicles', produced by Safer
Motoring Magaine (UK), edited by Robin Wager, although I think they only translated the first three. Volume 1 lists EVERY CHANGE made on the Wolfsburg
production line, with dates / chassis numbers. Awesome, but keep in mind this is for German-made VWs. They may not be applicable to Australian, South
African, Mexican and Brazilian Beetles, depending on the year.
Keep an eye on Ebay - do a search on 'Etzold' - and they sometimes pop up. This is a typical listing - would be great to get all four (139
Euro)...
http://cgi.ebay.de/Kaefer-Band-1-4-Dokumentation-Modelle-Etzold-/310254184026
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| posted on November 13th, 2010 at 03:21 PM |
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I'll stick with an oval...
Reub
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| posted on November 13th, 2010 at 03:31 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by RISKY4LIFE
Dang ill take the fakes over old sages anyday
it's out of my pice range when it hit a buck fifty
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who knows what 'bolt ons' are going to do long term
real for me!
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| posted on November 13th, 2010 at 05:41 PM |
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Have we all put our Lotto in?
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| posted on November 13th, 2010 at 11:49 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by rose
I would like.
If I win lotto tomorrow night I will put a 30k bid on there. I can only dream.
Do you think if I ask santa nicely he will bring it for me
And the question what's it worth is like asking how longs a bit of string
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NO Rose, you're not allowed to use it as a race car...... |
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| posted on November 14th, 2010 at 07:02 AM |
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so this was last registered in 1960??
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on November 14th, 2010 at 09:53 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by jedidan
| Quote: | Originally
posted by rose
I would like.
If I win lotto tomorrow night I will put a 30k bid on there. I can only dream.
Do you think if I ask santa nicely he will bring it for me
And the question what's it worth is like asking how longs a bit of string
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NO Rose, you're not allowed to use it as a race car......
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Race it,
I think we Rod it
or dump it.
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| posted on November 14th, 2010 at 10:22 AM |
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baja it!
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on November 14th, 2010 at 10:24 AM |
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I have to check my Lotto.
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| posted on November 14th, 2010 at 07:30 PM |
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It's up too $17500 with a week to go
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| Quote: | Originally
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baja it!
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Phil74Camper
For German year-by-year changes, as Bill has detailed, the very best source is a book series called 'Kafer - Eine Dokumentation' by Heinz Rudiger
Etzold. It was published in the '80s, in four volumes. There was an English translated edition called the 'Beetle Chronicles', produced by Safer
Motoring Magaine (UK), edited by Robin Wager, although I think they only translated the first three. Volume 1 lists EVERY CHANGE made on the Wolfsburg
production line, with dates / chassis numbers. Awesome, but keep in mind this is for German-made VWs. They may not be applicable to Australian, South
African, Mexican and Brazilian Beetles, depending on the year.
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I'd suggest that the factory publication 'Progressive Refinements' would be a better source, as that is where Etzold got his data from. I have
both publications and I find Progressive Refinements has more detail. It doesn't list every change (i.e from the VJUR BR2 to VJUR BR3 distributor
around Feb 54), and there are a couple of very minor errors - but it is as good as you are going to get 60 years on. But as you have stated, it is
only correct for German made or CKD cars.
It is available in the interweb if you have a bit of a search.
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| posted on November 15th, 2010 at 09:52 PM |
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Where are the interior door and window handles!
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| posted on November 17th, 2010 at 09:54 AM |
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 $18500 and four days to go.
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| Quote: | Originally
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so this was last registered in 1960??
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No, The windscreen came from another car with the sticker on it.
The body shell came to Oz in the 1980's
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