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 shaven
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| posted on June 3rd, 2013 at 01:59 PM |
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is anyone making these... if so which are the BEST & why... just want opinions.
cheers matty
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just lower yr car the normal way... have u got yr tyres yet?
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saw the guy today that has my tyres... 2 x tyres here... had to wait for the others to come into the country. going away for a week. when I get back
booked in to get them put on the rims... then im coming to your place  
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| posted on June 14th, 2013 at 04:43 PM |
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Is the type 1 beam a straight bolton deal or are there many mods.
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 10:00 AM |
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^^^^???^^^^^ bolt on drop spindles to a type 1 beam = yes. type 1 beam into type 3.... err no lots of mods
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| posted on June 15th, 2013 at 03:28 PM |
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And some..lots of mods amd stuffing around..
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| posted on June 16th, 2013 at 09:45 PM |
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And some..lots of mods amd stuffing around..
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call you tomorrow
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| posted on June 18th, 2013 at 05:30 PM |
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And some..lots of mods amd stuffing around..
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call you tomorrow
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You never called.
Knew I should have got you to buy me dinner first.
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| posted on June 20th, 2013 at 09:23 PM |
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did... well messaged
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| posted on June 20th, 2013 at 09:38 PM |
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pm to you matty
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Hi guys, first post.
I bought a pair of Bert3 dropped spindles last year and have just got around to fitting them. Problem is I've seen references to deflection tests
etc. and would like to hear from anyone who is actually using them on their T3.
I have an Engineer handling the body mods (chopped, sectioned, A and B pillars moved and raked, 18x8 wheels, bonnet and guards etc.) which he's cool
with but I'm wondering if these spindles will freak him out.
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Hi guys, first post.
I bought a pair of Bert3 dropped spindles last year and have just got around to fitting them. Problem is I've seen references to deflection tests
etc. and would like to hear from anyone who is actually using them on their T3.
I have an Engineer handling the body mods (chopped, sectioned, A and B pillars moved and raked, 18x8 wheels, bonnet and guards etc.) which he's cool
with but I'm wondering if these spindles will freak him out.
Anyone got any info?
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Been looking into those myself. I noticed its the last run of those spindles so I'm also keen to know how the engineer might assess them. Haven't
bought a set though. Quite expensive bit of kit but by far the best drop spindle I've seen.
They are quite a peice of work aren't they? What state are you from?
Heres the code I found which is what the engineer is trying to satisfy.
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| posted on June 24th, 2013 at 12:59 AM |
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Hi guys, first post.
I bought a pair of Bert3 dropped spindles last year and have just got around to fitting them. Problem is I've seen references to deflection tests
etc. and would like to hear from anyone who is actually using them on their T3.
I have an Engineer handling the body mods (chopped, sectioned, A and B pillars moved and raked, 18x8 wheels, bonnet and guards etc.) which he's cool
with but I'm wondering if these spindles will freak him out.
Anyone got any info?
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Been looking into those myself. I noticed its the last run of those spindles so I'm also keen to know how the engineer might assess them. Haven't
bought a set though. Quite expensive bit of kit but by far the best drop spindle I've seen.
They are quite a peice of work aren't they? What state are you from?
Heres the code I found which is what the engineer is trying to satisfy.
NCOP
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because im sooo tech minded hahaha
from what ive been told (explained) that because these spindles are milled (they look farking awesome) & not cast then they would be fine when it
comes to any stress test, performance test or deflection testing...
im getting some
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| posted on June 24th, 2013 at 10:16 PM |
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because im sooo tech minded hahaha
from what ive been told (explained) that because these spindles are milled (they look farking awesome) & not cast then they would be fine when it
comes to any stress test, performance test or deflection testing...
im getting some
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Your not planning to run wide 5 disk brakes with those spindles are you?
Those BerT3 spindles are pretty specific to regular type3 (4stud) disk brake calipers. Custom wide five kit might be a little tricky to fit from what
I can tell cause stock VW calipers are too thick to fit between the disk rotor and the wheel stud flange. I'd really like to see a set up-close
before I shelled out for them or decide to use standard brakes that I know will fit. I know Vlad tried to set up these spindles with that big brake
set up he bought from another forum member but he couldn't make it fit. Id hate to buy such a killer spindle and then be faced with compatibility
issues cause I'm trying to keep the car on wide 5 stud pattern. I know with enough ingenuity and access to different calipers and machinery there's
probably a solution to that dilemma (Wide five disks with street legal drop spindles) but its a spendy proposition with no guarantees of success.
Aarrrgh, my head hurts.
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| posted on June 26th, 2013 at 02:36 PM |
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because im sooo tech minded hahaha
from what ive been told (explained) that because these spindles are milled (they look farking awesome) & not cast then they would be fine when it
comes to any stress test, performance test or deflection testing...
im getting some
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Your not planning to run wide 5 disk brakes with those spindles are you?
Those BerT3 spindles are pretty specific to regular type3 (4stud) disk brake calipers. Custom wide five kit might be a little tricky to fit from what
I can tell cause stock VW calipers are too thick to fit between the disk rotor and the wheel stud flange. I'd really like to see a set up-close
before I shelled out for them or decide to use standard brakes that I know will fit. I know Vlad tried to set up these spindles with that big brake
set up he bought from another forum member but he couldn't make it fit. Id hate to buy such a killer spindle and then be faced with compatibility
issues cause I'm trying to keep the car on wide 5 stud pattern. I know with enough ingenuity and access to different calipers and machinery there's
probably a solution to that dilemma (Wide five disks with street legal drop spindles) but its a spendy proposition with no guarantees of success.
Aarrrgh, my head hurts.
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The bert3 spindles are friggin awesome, but with some problems, they are engineered with no margin for further mods. Stock factory ball joints,
factory calipers and factory spec'd wheels are a must.
For that reason I sold mine, as much as I tried I could not fit larger brakes (only exception I think is CSP vented brakes for type 3), even had
problem with the ball joints too coz oz must of used a different OEM supplier compared to Germany? a Royal PITA. So I went from brakes over lowering.
Brakes are a must for me so the choice was a no brainer
having said all of this, there is a chance volvo or BMW calipers might fits, but you are breaking balls with clearance.
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| posted on June 26th, 2013 at 02:56 PM |
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ok if you really want to use the BerT3 spindles then you need the CSP brake kit (same footprint but wider calipers and wider vented disks)
http://www.csp-shop.com/cgi-bin/cshop2/front/shop_main.cgi?func=det&wkid=...
And then you will need a racing/street compound pads like QFM's A1RM pads. You should be pretty damn close to having enough brake performance for
150-200hp engine with these spindles. Type 3s are heavy and need the brakes.
So many people seem to say the type 3 brakes are awesome, imho they are rubbish. probably coz most people would of come from beetles so they say they
are good lol.
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| posted on June 27th, 2013 at 08:18 AM |
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Rich coming from someone who doesnt actually drive his car!!
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| posted on June 27th, 2013 at 09:02 AM |
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Rich coming from someone who doesnt actually drive his car!!
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And you know this information based on?
come on mate, don't deny these brakes suck.
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The bert3 spindles are friggin awesome, but with some problems, they are engineered with no margin for further mods. Stock factory ball joints,
factory calipers and factory spec'd wheels are a must.
For that reason I sold mine, as much as I tried I could not fit larger brakes (only exception I think is CSP vented brakes for type 3), even had
problem with the ball joints too coz oz must of used a different OEM supplier compared to Germany? a Royal PITA. So I went from brakes over lowering.
Brakes are a must for me so the choice was a no brainer
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Mine bolted up perfectly ok, 4 stud and stock discs. Been driving on them for about 4 years now. Only complaint came from the tyre shop doing the new
alignment as the lower ball joint is quite close to the rim.
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I tired every ball joint I had, all interfered with the spindles, was going to get some metal milled but by then I had tried my bigger calipers but
wouldn't fit, so I gave lol
Anyway, if your going stock they are a real good bit of kit, I would highly recommend them.
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Hi guys, first post.
I bought a pair of Bert3 dropped spindles last year and have just got around to fitting them. Problem is I've seen references to deflection tests
etc. and would like to hear from anyone who is actually using them on their T3.
I have an Engineer handling the body mods (chopped, sectioned, A and B pillars moved and raked, 18x8 wheels, bonnet and guards etc.) which he's cool
with but I'm wondering if these spindles will freak him out.
Anyone got any info?
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Been looking into those myself. I noticed its the last run of those spindles so I'm also keen to know how the engineer might assess them. Haven't
bought a set though. Quite expensive bit of kit but by far the best drop spindle I've seen.
They are quite a peice of work aren't they? What state are you from?
Heres the code I found which is what the engineer is trying to satisfy.
NCOP
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NSW/VIC border.
Yeah they certainly look the part, question is will they meet the tests if the Engineer gets all bitter and twisted? They've been around for years
and I was hoping someone would have tried to meet the Vehicle Standards by now. I've had a look at the Code (thanks) only got halfway thru before the
brain turned to mush, too old for this stuff.
Tempted to get the body mods signed off without the spindles etc. but it's going to look strange (crap) with stock wheels and tyres, don't think
he'll buy it and even if he did the plate recognition cameras would soon take the fun out of it.
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I was looking into buying these , But I also have a T1 Beam I think I'm better off using the T1 Beam.
I know I'll never get a reply but Transformer must be from around my way ..
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I see all the conversions for a type one beam but these are made for a lighter car and i do not see how they any engineer would aprove that conversion
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