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| posted on August 23rd, 2011 at 06:16 AM |
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I'm a bit suss on the DSG equipped cars, there seems to be more reliability issues with those boxs than most. But I have spoken to a few owners who
have had no problems in high mileage golfs and caddys. Sorry, it was only june that the golf was number 4 in oz. But year to date figures show VW
outselling honda, subaru,kia and suzuki etc.
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| posted on June 11th, 2013 at 10:25 PM |
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Interesting to re-read this thread in the light of VW's current apparent woes.
We were so impressed by the T. dealership and so unimpressed by the VW one that we (sad to say) just had to buy the T. Glad now as it's performed
flawlessly and service has been excellent. And it's been cheaper overall. "Toyota is the new VW."
ACE 30 & 40 oils: specifically engineered for your Air Cooled VW
delivered (free del.) throughout Yarra Valley / Ranges, & Gippsland areas. Also ACE 20, 50 & 90.
FOR SALE: ACE 30, 40 etc. Oil formulations & Trade-names.
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| posted on June 11th, 2013 at 10:38 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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There is no VW dealer in Sydney's wealthy eastern suburbs or northern beaches,
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Hey Phil if your looking I think Bill Buckle in Brookvale (Northern Beaches) is a VW dealer (amongst a number of other marques).
Ben
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 08:00 AM |
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Yes it's a shame. Oldies like me had to watch VW sell their factory in Melbourne, then fade out of Australia altogether for over the next 15 years.
Then we saw VWs imported by a series of independent importers interested only in their bottom lines, with total sales only a few hundred a year.
That's why you don't see many used VWs for sale from the '80s and early '90s here - they didn't sell them new in the fiirst place.
Finally with VW Group Australia formed in 2001, fully owned by VW Germany, we expected VW to return properly to our market after a long absence.
Hooray! Yes sales have been very good, up to 55,000 a year now and even higher than the glory days of the Australian-made VWs of the 1960s. But issues
like a proper dealer chain, properly trained dealer staff, and reasonablly priced parts and service, have not been addressed. Sydney still only has 10
VW dealers (over 30 in the air-cooled days), and many country centres still don't have a VW dealer. Fixed-price servicing has been introduced,
belatedly, but VW used to have that in the 1960s. Parts are still way too dear. I was recently quoted over $1000 by Barloworld for Golf 3 power window
reguators. I can get them on Ebay for under $100 each.
Yes Ben I know about Bill Buckle, but I was thinking of the NORTHERN beaches - VW used to have Youngs Motors at Collaroy, and G Brothers at Mona Vale.
Still no VW dealer in Bankstown/Canterbury, or the St George district, or the Eastern suburbs, or the Hills district.
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 09:15 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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That's why you don't see many used VWs for sale from the '80s and early '90s here - they didn't sell them new in the fiirst place.
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Yes there were no VW passenger cars offered between 1980 and 1990. The only thing available was the type 25s.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 09:16 AM |
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Don't forget the Type 24 pickups that Ateco also imported after 1988.
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 09:26 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Don't forget the Type 24 pickups that Ateco also imported after 1988.
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No such thing as a type 24. You are getting confused with the model number. eg. 242 Pick Up RHD etc.
VAG called them all Typ 25. Like yours is a Type 21.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 11:44 AM |
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This is a distraction from the topic.
Volkswagen refers to mine as a Type 2 (in general), but it ain't a Type 21. That's a panel van. Mine is a Type 23, window Kombi as the chassis
number specifies. A Microbus is a Type 22, a pickup is a Type 26. 'Typ' is German for 'Type'.
For the T3 Transporter the types were changed - '25' is the van/kombi/microbus and the '24' is the pickup. Volkswagen only referred to the vans as
Type 25. Post us a photo of your T3 twin cab's VIN, or the detailed manufacturer's label, and highlight where it says '25'.
Digits 7 and 8 of the VIN clearly specify the VW model (or type) code. A post-'80 Golf 1 has 17 there. A Mexican Beetle has 11. Whether you call them
a Model 11 or a Type 11, or Model 17 or Type 17, is up to you. Yes there are additional codes on top of the two prime digits, but that's not the
issue.
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 11:56 AM |
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This is a distraction from the topic.
Volkswagen refers to mine as a Type 2 (in general), but it ain't a Type 21. That's a panel van. Mine is a Type 23, window Kombi as the chassis
number specifies. A Microbus is a Type 22, a pickup is a Type 26. 'Typ' is German for 'Type'.
For the T3 Transporter the types were changed - '25' is the van/kombi/microbus and the '24' is the pickup. Volkswagen only referred to the vans as
Type 25. Post us a photo of your T3 twin cab's VIN, or the detailed manufacturer's label, and highlight where it says '25'.
Digits 7 and 8 of the VIN clearly specify the VW model (or type) code. A post-'80 Golf 1 has 17 there. A Mexican Beetle has 11. Whether you call them
a Model 11 or a Type 11, or Model 17 or Type 17, is up to you. Yes there are additional codes on top of the two prime digits, but that's not the
issue.
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VIN has nothing to do with it. You are getting confused with model and type. There is no such thing as a type 23 or 24. You are assuming things. You
have a type 21.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 02:39 PM |
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What?! My chassis number begins 23, so I have a Type 23. Or if you want to be a pendantic hair-splitter, it's a Type 2 Model 23. Or a Type 2 Model
234 (left-hand sliding door, RHD). Which you can call a Type 234. And so on with paint codes and M codes and so forth.
Nothing to do with '21'. It's NOT a Type OR model 21. What references you can present to show me otherwise, rather than say-so?
Homework: A T4 Transporter is a model 70 according to its VIN. What is its 'Type' then, if 'Type' is different as you claim? Don't say 'T4' -
that indicates its generation in the line of Transporters.
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 02:52 PM |
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What?! My chassis number begins 23, so I have a Type 23. Or if you want to be a pendantic hair-splitter, it's a Type 2 Model 23. Or a Type 2 Model
234 (left-hand sliding door, RHD). Which you can call a Type 234. And so on with paint codes and M codes and so forth.
Nothing to do with '21'. It's NOT a Type OR model 21. What references you can present to show me otherwise, rather than say-so?
Homework: A T4 Transporter is a model 70 according to its VIN. What is its 'Type' then, if 'Type' is different as you claim? Don't say 'T4' -
that indicates its generation in the line of Transporters.
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What references you can present to show me otherwise, rather than say-so that it is a Type 23?
Why are you relating to the VIN?
After around 1990 they changed the definitions to A, B, C, T etc. There was never any T1,T2 or T3 Transporters before that.
So then a 3 generation Golf was A3, 4th generation Transporter was a T4, simple! Before that they had Type 19 for the 2nd generation Golf etc. Type 11
for standard Beetle and type 13 for struts etc.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 04:44 PM |
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Why? Because that's what the chassis number MEANS. Example: 2342nnnnnn
First digit means Type 2 (Volkswagen Transporter). No argument there?? Second digit - 3 (Kombi van). This is where a panel van has 1, Microbus will
have 2, etc. Third digit - year (4 means 1974). Fourth digit 2 - differentiates from the previous decade.
Digits 1 and 2 were later transfrerred to the VIN in positions 7 and 8. Digit 3 also moved to the VIN, in position 10. So a 1980 Golf with a chassis
number of 17A nnnnn became a 1981 Golf with WVWZZZ17ZBWnnnnn. Same info and same principle.
So if the chassis number says my Kombi is a Type 23, then that's what it is.
Generational tags are not the same as model/type. Yes the Golfs are 'A1', 'A2', 'A3' etc, just as the Passats are 'B1', 'B2' etc, and
Transporters are 'T1', 'T2' etc. That's fine, that tells you what 'generation' they were. But the A1 Golf is still a Type 17 (or Model 17, they
are the same thing), and a B2 Passat wagon is still a Type 33 (or model 33). There are several Type/Model codes for the Polo - 86, 87, 6N, 6R, 9N -
but no 'generation' code apart from your favourite Mk1, Mk2 etc. The Tiguan is a Type 5N and an Up! is a Type AA. Or Model 5N and Model AA.
Whatever. Same thing.
Back on track - I just heard that Audi has followed VW's DSG recall this afternoon.
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 05:38 PM |
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I really don't understand where you got all of that from.
I got my information from Germany.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
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| posted on June 12th, 2013 at 08:29 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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I told a Lady friend to buy a 1400cc twin charger Golf.
Its less than 12 months old but the gearbox has failed already...
What a joke
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That sucks. Nothing worse than giving a shining testimonial only to have it come back and bight you for trying to be helpful.
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