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| posted on September 19th, 2012 at 09:39 AM |
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Thanks , will do just
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| posted on September 20th, 2012 at 04:16 PM |
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hi all
i tried to send a pm to lovebuggy, not really sure if it worked as I cannot see any SENT ITEMS folder.
If anyone know the lovebuggy pls let him know
i also sent an e-mailto the manx site
thx
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| posted on September 21st, 2012 at 05:48 PM |
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You can also get this done and it will solve your problems.
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| posted on September 21st, 2012 at 07:53 PM |
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^^^^^^^^^
Oh cool! wish I had bought a ac/dc tig now 
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| posted on September 21st, 2012 at 09:26 PM |
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I had it done. There is a fair bit of work in it.
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| posted on September 22nd, 2012 at 07:20 AM |
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Hey blue
That looks serious hardware.
How much? And where from?
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| posted on September 22nd, 2012 at 05:16 PM |
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It cost $500. Paul from Manx Australia did it. If you need his contact details, let me know.
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| posted on September 29th, 2012 at 03:40 PM |
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thanks mate
I've got in touch with manx
paul
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| posted on October 1st, 2012 at 02:01 PM |
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Now I need to decide which I go on the engine adaptor.
Guys - thanks for the help , I got a reply from manx on the throttle body reverser.
Now I need to decide which I go on the engine adaptor.
Currently the 1600c cc donk drives nicely through the stock 3 rib box. It just leaks oil and has no power. The gearbox shift is smooth. The reason
for the change is the think the engine needs a rebuild and I don't see the value spending in 3k or more on 50hp of aircooled. I now have a good ej22
with new loom and ECU, I have a subie clutch, pressure plate and subie flywheel
My 3 options
1. Subagears 5 speed box, this sounds the ultimate approach but I don't have and can’t justify 4k upwards.
2. Volksconversion - I think for a little over $1,000 I get the adaptor plate , new flywheel and new clutch. I think I can do this myself.
Disadvantage, I cannot re-use either the stock vw clutch or the subie EJ22 clutch. I also cannot resuse either of my vw or subie flywheels.
Advantage, I Think I can reuse my new hi torque vw starter motor and this adaptor kit is locally sourced and John seems real helpful.
3. RJES Bellhousing adaptor – Richard Jones has also been helpful explaining to me the options.
I have 2 options
a) Stay with subie clutch/pressure plate/ flywheel and buy new Subaru splined gearbox input shaft I still need to buy a subie starter motor.
for bellhousing, clutch release shaft, Subaru splined gearbox input shaft shipping to Brisbane £650 or A $1,010 plus a new subie starter motor
$250= $1,260
b)Keep vw gearbox spline shaft as it is and just buy a new vw 228mm clutch for bellhousing , clutch release shaft, shipping to Brisbane £500 or A
$776 plus a new subie starter motor $250 and new VW 228 mm clutch $300 = $1,326
Experts please tell me the best approach?
I hope to hear from someone who has been through this already?
I have heard a few people say a new bellhousing is better technically than an adaptor but I don’t know why? Also I am not sure of the technical
merits of putting in a new Subie splined gearbox input shaft into a VW gearbox. Is this is a good idea or not? As I want to do this myself how hard
is this do do? If I ever wanted to sell the 3 rib and get a 2 litre I assume it is best the keep that VW 3 rib stock?
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| posted on October 1st, 2012 at 08:26 PM |
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There is a second hand subi conversion set on offroadracing.com for $500 at the moment 
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| posted on October 2nd, 2012 at 06:15 PM |
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thanks Nils
I had a look , I think that is without a clutch ? so it is inly 200$ less than brand new. I don't think I will chase it
Do you have any opinions on RJES verssu Volksconversions?
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| posted on October 2nd, 2012 at 07:49 PM |
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I really like the idea of the RJES bellhousing for the neatness of it, it uses the subi starter then?
Probably ask Graham (cab11) I'm pretty sure he is using one, For the pro's and cons of the different styles
Depending on how mechanically minded you are, If you do the reverse ring and pinion yourself it works out pretty much the same dollars again
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| posted on October 3rd, 2012 at 01:11 PM |
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Go RJES bellhousing. I'm 3/4 through my ej conversion and am very happy with the bellhousing kit for neatness ect ect.
Using the subi starter (manual) subi flywheel, subi p/plate and subi throwout bearing. Clutch plate is the 228mm kombi.
Worked out better $$$ wise going this way rather than the adaptor kit + cranky starter kit ect. I had a manual 92 liberty as a donor car for the all
the bits.
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| posted on October 4th, 2012 at 09:34 AM |
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Hi Bone
What vehicle are you putting the Ej22 into?
I understand what u say about the Rjes looking neater, but so far I can't see any way it is technically better than the adaptor, please let me
know?
If I go with an adaptor I can re-use my new Hi- torque VW starter and not have to buy a subie starter. (unless I find that the new hi-torque VW
starter is then not suitable) I also avoid replacing a throw out bearing.
I guess it would be easier if I can see both configurations right in front of me, a bit simpler for me to then understand.
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| posted on October 4th, 2012 at 10:31 AM |
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The RJES bellhousing is better for a conversion in the fact that it uses more standard Subaru components. Flywheel, pressure plate, Throwout bearing,
starter motor. This may not be for you since you don't have these bits, but the donor Liberty I got was a manual, so I have all those bits.
The bellhousing also let's you use a 228mm clutch plate which is bigger than the standard Subaru 225mm plate, and as far as I'm aware, all the
adaptor plates only let you use a 200mm plate with the hybrid flywheel.
The bellhousing also uses the standard Subaru dowel pins to align the engine to the box. I've seen some adaptor plates incorrectly machined or not
having the locating ring and they've been out of alignment.
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| posted on October 4th, 2012 at 11:02 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Sunnyjim
Hi Bone
What vehicle are you putting the Ej22 into?
I understand what u say about the Rjes looking neater, but so far I can't see any way it is technically better than the adaptor, please let me
know?
If I go with an adaptor I can re-use my new Hi- torque VW starter and not have to buy a subie starter. (unless I find that the new hi-torque VW
starter is then not suitable) I also avoid replacing a throw out bearing.
I guess it would be easier if I can see both configurations right in front of me, a bit simpler for me to then understand.
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Sunnyjim maybe the adaptor is a better solution for you as you dont need to buy the subi parts . I had a sherman adaptor with a EA81
subi in my baja until recently and didn't have a issue with it and found the EA81 engine super reliable with the electric ignition. My ej22 is going
into the same baja.
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| posted on October 4th, 2012 at 11:07 AM |
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Hi Sunnyjim. I sent you a PM the other day, did you get it ?
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| posted on October 4th, 2012 at 12:44 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 11CAB
as far as I'm aware, all the adaptor plates only let you use a 200mm plate with the hybrid flywheel.
The bellhousing also uses the standard Subaru dowel pins to align the engine to the box. I've seen some adaptor plates incorrectly machined or not
having the locating ring and they've been out of alignment.
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Sherman can do the 215mm Kombi clutch instead of the 200mm and also his adapters have the Subaru dowel pins as well as the bellhousing locating ring.
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| posted on October 4th, 2012 at 10:52 PM |
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You can also get this done and it will solve your problems.
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this this effect the way it ran?
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| posted on October 5th, 2012 at 11:01 AM |
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Hi Vlad, I dont know yet. My plan is to put this motor in next week, however I know of another buggy that has had this done and it didn't seem to
make any difference to performance.
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| posted on October 5th, 2012 at 12:59 PM |
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If theres no leaks it will work fine, its only drawing in air and the AFM is still measuring how much or MAP sensor working manifold pressure out
which ever it may be, it doesnt care where the throttle body is.
Roach did similar on his bug and it works sweet.
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| posted on October 5th, 2012 at 01:43 PM |
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joel
thanks for the piccy
Am i right that is more than just a new throttle body adaptor? looks like a special manifold?
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| posted on October 5th, 2012 at 04:46 PM |
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It's just a stock manifold but its had all the unnecessary mounts removed to clean it up and a plate tigged on top to mount the throttle body to, and
obviously the old throttle body hole plated over.
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| posted on October 6th, 2012 at 10:05 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Hi Vlad, I dont know yet. My plan is to put this motor in next week, however I know of another buggy that has had this done and it didn't seem to
make any difference to performance.
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I recon that would cause air distribution problems.
its a killer resemblance to the (band aided, pulled from FWD model & stuffed into RWD car) manifold design in my daily bomb which causes rough
idle and up to 1500rpm roughness. it was fixed in the next generation engine which had a 100% manifold redesign so it didn't include an side ways
elbow like pictured on your engine.
I could be wrong, it may have little effect but it may cause some roughness.
keep me posted as I would like to see the results. 
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I am now committed ( or they say I should be )
So I have moved ahead
I now have a new reversed throttle body kit , a sherman engine adaptor new flywheel and clutch kit.
I am now committed ( or they say I should be )
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| posted on November 20th, 2012 at 04:10 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vlad01
| Quote: | Originally
posted by BlueV2
Hi Vlad, I dont know yet. My plan is to put this motor in next week, however I know of another buggy that has had this done and it didn't seem to
make any difference to performance.
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I recon that would cause air distribution problems.
its a killer resemblance to the (band aided, pulled from FWD model & stuffed into RWD car) manifold design in my daily bomb which causes rough
idle and up to 1500rpm roughness. it was fixed in the next generation engine which had a 100% manifold redesign so it didn't include an side ways
elbow like pictured on your engine.
I could be wrong, it may have little effect but it may cause some roughness.
keep me posted as I would like to see the results.
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Hi Vlad, I now have this setup working (slight delay with replacing the engine, but that is another story), but this setup works really well I
certainly can't feel any difference between this and what I had before. Car idles correctly (maybe a bit low) but it is smooth enough, so I don't
feel that the modified manifold has caused any performance or smoothness issues.
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| posted on November 21st, 2012 at 08:04 AM |
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interesting that. guess it depends on other factors too.
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| posted on December 30th, 2012 at 01:42 PM |
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ej22 engine mounting bracket into a 71 lowlight
hi all
This thread is about us putting an ej22 into a 71 lowlight kombi
I am still collecting bits.
I was thinking of an engine mount bracket. Does anyone know someone who makes these and can supply me one?
I can have ago at making my own but is this case i reckon the welds need to be very good , better than my welding ability
thanks
paul
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| posted on December 30th, 2012 at 08:44 PM |
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most jobs vary, so best to get all in and together hoseses, exhaust etc and make mounts etc in situ as you go.
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posted by Sunnyjim
hi all
This thread is about us putting an ej22 into a 71 lowlight kombi
I am still collecting bits.
I was thinking of an engine mount bracket. Does anyone know someone who makes these and can supply me one?
I can have ago at making my own but is this case i reckon the welds need to be very good , better than my welding ability
thanks
paul
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ej25 hot start problem
Ian – thx for the advice
Another problem- I have a 76 bay with and subie ej25 installed running dual fuel. Had it for about 3 years . It recently has developed a hot start
problem, starts when cold, drive for a while the wont restart when the engine is hot. I can leave it for about 30mins to 1 hour and it will
restart.
Google tells me this is not uncommon with ej25/22/20s.The culprits have been sensors such as , crank, camshaft, water temp, speed . To complicate
things, it now won’t run at all on petrol only lpg.
Advice welcome on how to diagnose? Someone said use some cold spray and try it on the sensors when the engine is hot and won’t start.
I am willing to give it a go but in case, Can anyone recommend a real good mechanic in the brisbane area that’s knows subie ej25 ECU system?
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