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 reub
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:33 PM |
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TD05 is more ample enough for more decent hps .....mybe listen to jakos advice and be careful with you cooling ... jako has had some good advice from others as well to have hes car running propper best way of
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What did you run again John??
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:37 PM |
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what revs was peak power at?..........seems to fall over earlier,.........maybe something else is not right ?
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| posted on August 14th, 2009 at 09:58 PM |
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good to here everything went well, i can say i know what it feels like with that power, pretty cool. Something doesnt look right with the boost on
your dyno graph as it should hold full boost all the way but yours seems to drop off, i know mine made full boost by 3500rpm and stays there till rev
limiter cuts in. Once you get the bugs sorted im sure you will have some fun!!!
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 09:16 AM |
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its the boost curve you tools it falls of because the turbo is shagged.it come s on well and falls over,no biggy.
as for tdo5 are you guys serious,i wouldn't put a tdo5 on anything that i wanted to go,td 04 & td05 rubbish.
vf is what it came out with so why not that or better.why go backwards.
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 09:25 AM |
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Go Westi
Good to hear your on song again.....welcome back
Looks to me that the turbo cant provide enough boost
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 11:39 AM |
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Mick,
Just a comparison for u between turbos. Paul & I had identical power out puts of 150kw at the wheels. he used the TD04 with 12psi, peak power was
at 5500rpm from memory. I have the larger TD05 running only 8psi & peak power was at 6600rpm. It's now at 6000rpm but that was with some
breathing mods.
Don't get too caught up in the whole "if u change the turbo u will get 50kw more at the wheels" speel. It rolls off the tounge easy enough, but
power from a wrx engine in a beetle compared to an actual wrx are 2 very different things. Theres probably only about 4 tuners in the country that
have had a wrx powered bug on their dyno.
Many late model rexxy owners put the TD05 on their cars. Do some research on Rexnet & RS Liberty forums.
There are still many variables to making reliable power with what u currently have, what are the air fuel ratios for starters?
Jak
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 05:29 PM |
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jak riddle me this,why walk backwards when forwards is so much easier, why put on another second hand item that might possibly have the same
problem.why put on a turbo that out dates the engine.why not put on the same or better than it came with.
and if you think it won't make another 50 kw's,fair enough,but just because you don't think it won't doesn't mean it isn't possible.
and 4 tuners in australia that have tuned wrx powered vw's on there dyno no your stabbing at things there,.
all the temp's water, air blah,blah air/ fuel.blah/blah.dude get over it, it runs cooler and cleaner than it would in a rexy,the dyno guy,paul. was
spewing that it didn't have a good turbo on it because it has so much potential.he rang after spending 1/2 on the tune to say the turbo was shit.we
told him to do the best he could with what he had.it's no biggy.
but in the future will be easy to get more power out of it.and it won't be a td05,unless there is going to be 2 off them.then you will see a tdo5
make some good power.
anyhow that took me about 4 hrs to write due to one handed wonder .will chat soon.
i will speak to paul to get the print out's for you if it's a must,everything was sweet,the only reason boost pressure was shown was for mikey,
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 07:55 PM |
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A Turbo is only as efficient as its Heart!!!!
HEADS HEADS HEADS......
TD05 .....worked well for me!!!
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 07:58 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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HEADS HEADS HEADS......
TD05 .....worked well for me!!!
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but your motor only ever drove the car on and off a car trailer..........the turbo probably never saw boost 
so Westi the turbo is the wrong one AND shagged as well........bummer
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| posted on August 15th, 2009 at 08:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by JVLRacing
HEADS HEADS HEADS......
TD05 .....worked well for me!!!
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but your motor only ever drove the car on and off a car trailer..........the turbo probably never saw boost
so Westi the turbo is the wrong one AND shagged as well........bummer
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you idiot.......stopit i will start crying
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| posted on August 16th, 2009 at 01:36 AM |
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Brad.
Mick can put whatever turbo he likes on it. I only gave my experience of the TD05 as thats what I have experienced. It would be silly of me to give
advice on the VF series turbo as I've never had one.
Theres nothing to get over?. Was purely giving advice on what I have experienced with my own conversion. My questions aren't a stab at anyone, I'm
genuinly interested in this stuff. Not so interested in pages of debate over wether or not someone should put Kadrons on their 1600 LOL.
If someone has done a similar thing to me, but another way to acheive a better resullt, then I want to learn, only an idiot thinks they know
everything.
Just would be nice to see Mick now enjoy the car. I'm stoked it's finished & its not even mine. I hope he gets used to 200hp @ the wheels first.
Then go nuts & see if it can stay in a straight line with 200kw , would be lots of fun!. i'm not that game myself.
regards
Jak
Actually the only limited VF turbo experience is in Matts Bug, Back in mid 2005 Matt put a VF24 (from memory) on, at the time he drove up to the Coast
to take me for a run it had "only" 218hp @ the wheels on 14psi. It was BALLISTIC. It made my car feel slow in comparison. There was no lag, it was
on from the turn of the key. It was quick on a $850 wrecker engine that is still going to today, would probably be even more nuts on a late model STI
engine.
I think? the VF24 turbo's are used on the Group N rally cars?
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| posted on August 16th, 2009 at 03:31 PM |
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i like the look of this one from the list by 72type3wrx
"VF38
Twin scroll turbo with titanium turbine and shaft. Smaller compressor housing than VF36/VF37 provides tremendous spool up capabilities but less top
end than VF36/37. The spool capabilities of this turbo are demonstrated on the JDM Legacy GT, which reaches peak torque at 2400RPM."
that would get the kombi haulin!
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| posted on August 17th, 2009 at 08:42 AM |
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yeh, wrong turbo and stuffed - but still going to be plenty of fun for now.
looks like we may need a front brake upgrade too - never ending! REally getting impatient now, so close, yet so far - everyday feels like
forever...
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| posted on August 17th, 2009 at 09:04 AM |
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I can help you out re front brakes.............and they are ready to go in Porsche Pattern !
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| posted on August 17th, 2009 at 09:23 AM |
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what ya got Craigy boy??
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| posted on August 17th, 2009 at 06:01 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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what ya got Craigy boy??
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yeah, bat cave man?
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| posted on August 17th, 2009 at 06:33 PM |
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i cant believe how small the turbo is pictured earlier in this post, it makes my turbo look so much bigger. I used to work for subaru and we used to
comment on how small the turbos were and how much better they would go with a bigger turbo. my compressor housing has a 60mm intake and in comparison
to the 50 cent piece its a far bit bigger. Bigger is better....
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| posted on August 17th, 2009 at 07:52 PM |
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what ya got Craigy boy??
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will look in the cave tonight for ya mick !
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 07:59 AM |
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yeh they are small, restrictive too - i think Rocknrob pointed it out earlier. Comes on so hard and early too - see how it goes. Its all bolt on stuff
(basically) anyways.
Brakes first (Mr Engineers request).
Does anybody here run a bigger b/j front brake kit? I have dropped spindles so this make fitment a little harder. Anyone have experience with this?
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i cant believe how small the turbo is pictured earlier in this post, it makes my turbo look so much bigger. I used to work for subaru and we used to
comment on how small the turbos were and how much better they would go with a bigger turbo. my compressor housing has a 60mm intake and in comparison
to the 50 cent piece its a far bit bigger. Bigger is better....
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 08:57 AM |
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no luck re the brakes Mick...........unless you take the drop spindles off ?!
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 04:03 PM |
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whats the issue with the dropped spindles not working with other brakes? is it because of where the beams upper mount joins in relation to the
centerline of the axle? surely someone could design a suitable caliper bracket to suit farily easily...? i cant picture anything else being a problem
from my almost non existant experience with dropped spindles? just a thought 
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| posted on August 18th, 2009 at 04:59 PM |
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all comes down to cost.....................design and making is easy, but it all takes time and $$.
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| posted on August 20th, 2009 at 11:18 PM |
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rizzo baby,it's so hard to write /read how it was meant to sound,no intent on sounding nasty if thats how it came across,i am not the most literate
person at the best of times.and i only have the one eagle finger pecking at the keyboard at once.i was just trying to give poor old mikey a break,he
doesn't know heaps about cars,so everything is taken in then processed,and then he starts to question everything,which is cool,because he learns
heaps,but sometimes it's a bit hard to listen to so many different opinions.
cheers
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down sharon.
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whats the issue with the dropped spindles not working with other brakes? is it because of where the beams upper mount joins in relation to the
centerline of the axle? surely someone could design a suitable caliper bracket to suit farily easily...? i cant picture anything else being a problem
from my almost non existant experience with dropped spindles? just a thought
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thats pretty much the gist of the issue, if you wish to run drop spindles with a bigger disc you would need to have a really big offset to push the
disc further away from the stub and control arms and other than a ridiculously narrowed beam or even more ridiculous flared guards, it makes it hard
to work around.... with standard spindles you can have the discs cup over the whole thing and still retain a standard offset or narrower (see links
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| posted on August 22nd, 2009 at 09:55 AM |
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http://www.classicveedub.com.au/SpareParts/Parts_Results_Fun_Stuff.asp
three pages of new brake kits.... nothing useful??
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| posted on August 22nd, 2009 at 11:34 AM |
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And he has disc kits for drum brake supers, not many of them in Australia!
Is the engineer OK with droped spindles?
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| posted on August 22nd, 2009 at 12:05 PM |
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Mick, are you running wide 5 wheels or 5 stud porsche or 4 stud VW standard?
If you running anything other than wide 5 it opens up your options considerably. I think you can still run the disc pretty darned close to the hub
surface. There is plenty of meat in those dropped spindle to allow the current mounting points to be ditched and new ones machined to allow for the
larger disc.
Have a look at VWCools disc brake kit on parts for sale forum. It's not meant for dropped spindles but it may very well be able to be modified to
suit. I reckon the hub and disc would fit a treat and then it's just a case of mounting the caliper.
I know it's more money but if you want to go custom and don't have the expertise to do the work yourself then it is gonna cost. If I had the spare
time I'd say send me the parts and I could figure something out but I have trouble finding the time/money to get my project moving forward
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| posted on August 24th, 2009 at 08:59 PM |
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updates ?
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| posted on August 24th, 2009 at 10:27 PM |
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And he has disc kits for drum brake supers, not many of them in Australia!
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John Sherman has rear super kits...... i'd be interested in finding out how much the classic one's are though... would be a decent upgrade!
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