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posted on October 30th, 2012 at 01:38 PM



Dave Folts sent me some pics of some axle retainer devises he has come up with for use with his axles....

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There have been some instances where the uni-joint has failed with his axles, which basically has allowed the wheel, and everything still connected to it, to move around under the car uncontrolled... This devise maintains a near positive connection to the chassis should a failure occur...

He has offered to send me through a set (minus a few parts I can source here) to try out on the car.

Pretty cool idea I reckon.
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posted on October 30th, 2012 at 07:29 PM



Man your still over thinking arnt you:smilegrin:



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posted on October 30th, 2012 at 07:38 PM



Looks well made and designed but why?
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posted on October 30th, 2012 at 10:30 PM



Its so if you brake a axle or uni joint it doesn't drop down , helps keep wheels in up right stance and pointing forward .
All about pulling up on 4wheels .
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posted on October 30th, 2012 at 11:15 PM



The slide arrangement is there to allow suspension travel, but gets to the end if a broken inner uni or axle is experienced. I'd say use it if your using his swing conversion.

As for mounting a kombi box....how long have we got?
Use the std front mount on the berg nose adapter to position the front. the rear has a few compromises to consider. Fit to engine bay, if a priority will mean offcentre output flanges and visa-versa. Height also depends on engine tin or cv clearance. I'd recommend a mockup with front mount on and juggle until your at a happy location in the engine bay. The rear mount I use or make is like the design in the pic, but altered to get the trans where I want it.

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posted on November 5th, 2012 at 03:42 PM



Looks like I just scored this for cheap!

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posted on November 5th, 2012 at 05:18 PM



ah, dont do that! now i want one! Did you get that from the same place as frosty??



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posted on November 5th, 2012 at 07:48 PM



Nup.... Picked it up locally for $140!.... It was used as a mock-up rig only.... The dude put a RCL poly seat in the FJ instead!!! :yes:
Now I need to figure out the mounting of it.... Waiting for Morgan to figure that one out, so I can copy him! ;)




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posted on November 5th, 2012 at 08:04 PM



Good score. I got mine from VPW in Melbourne.
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posted on November 5th, 2012 at 10:53 PM



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Nup.... Picked it up locally for $140!.... It was used as a mock-up rig only.... The dude put a RCL poly seat in the FJ instead!!! :yes:
Now I need to figure out the mounting of it.... Waiting for Morgan to figure that one out, so I can copy him! ;)


Just an idea, this is how I mounted the last one I did for John Toomeys Unlimited Street car,was passed for his 8.50 cert,

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posted on November 5th, 2012 at 10:58 PM



You can see when I did my car I installed two bottom attachments plus the rear.also 8.50 cert, Mike McCarthy
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posted on November 6th, 2012 at 12:58 AM



That's the stuff Mike.... Perfect examples right there....
Looking at your cage..... I sent a message to Chassis Works in Sacto last night enquiring about one of their products.... You had any experience with Chris' Alston's work?




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posted on November 6th, 2012 at 08:10 AM



I have never purchased anything from them but know they have some reasonable prices on quality roll cages and parts. My friend John Toomey and I purchased a tubing bender and notcher . We buy tubing in 20 ft pieces and build our own cages because it is something we can and like doing. If you would like some ideas I will email you some pics or post them here. My new chassis will be very simular to Johns but I will be using a torsion housing instead of ladder bars. Mike McCarthy
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posted on November 6th, 2012 at 10:13 AM



Have a look at troys build on the tube car mate. He made the mounts and fitted a Kirkey seat in the tube car.



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hi Simon , this is how we mounted Ben Fords' seat and it past tech for super sedan . The tech inspector was very happy with it ....:tu:

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posted on November 7th, 2012 at 03:31 PM



Simon, the RLR mount is another way to go, also comes with a back support to mount off the cage, seat can go back and forth a bit too for adjustment. Cheers, Greg

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posted on November 8th, 2012 at 04:28 PM



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I have never purchased anything from them but know they have some reasonable prices on quality roll cages and parts. My friend John Toomey and I purchased a tubing bender and notcher . We buy tubing in 20 ft pieces and build our own cages because it is something we can and like doing. If you would like some ideas I will email you some pics or post them here. My new chassis will be very simular to Johns but I will be using a torsion housing instead of ladder bars. Mike McCarthy


I have looked at building my own cage, but the prices for the cage including delivery from Carl is cheaper than buying the materials here!... But I will still need to modified it a little when it arrives.... Gonna get my brother to TIG it all up for me, which will also save me a few bob...

And after all that, any suggestions on how to improve the design is always greatful.... How Troy and Brad have improved on Dave's tube car has been a great source of info, as has Frosty's project.... My car is going to be a lot like Morgans of course... With a narrowed and raised torsion housing, so any details on how to do this would be awesome!

How Chris Bolton and Ben Ford have built their cages, especially the main hoop is very interesting.... I remember that Chris said it gave him more shoulder/elbow room, which has to be a good thing.

And cheers for that seat mount Greg... Appreciate that.




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posted on November 9th, 2012 at 02:29 PM



No worries, also the narrowed and raised torsion housing is surprisingly easy to do once you get into it.



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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 01:30 AM



humpty i am doing a bug cage at the moment and making a few odds and sod's for my beetle.let me know if you want a price to make yours up when i do the other one.
easy to do 2 at once mate.




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humpty i am doing a bug cage at the moment and making a few odds and sod's for my beetle.let me know if you want a price to make yours up when i do the other one.
easy to do 2 at once mate.


Definitely be interested Brad... Prolly be easier as a flat pack though.... What do you have in mind?... Drop you a call tomorrow or next week?




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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 10:12 AM



yeh flat pack for sure,but i was just sayin ,while i am doing one another wouldn't be that hard.
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posted on November 10th, 2012 at 10:25 AM



hey brad, when u going to be doing that? im after a bolt in half cage for mine.....



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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 05:33 PM



Sway a way spring plates?
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posted on November 11th, 2012 at 08:38 PM



Troy drilled and tapped a grease nipple into his Spring plate retainers for the Type 3 So we can grease them. Bit fiddly but saves the bush from getting flogged!! think he cut a scroll into the bush as well.



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Troy drilled and tapped a grease nipple into his Spring plate retainers for the Type 3 So we can grease them. Bit fiddly but saves the bush from getting flogged!! think he cut a scroll into the bush as well.


That's a good idea.... Cheers Brennden.




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posted on November 15th, 2012 at 12:10 PM



Went racing for the first time since Christmas....

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Car ran loads better..... No ignition or fuel problems now..... But.... Too much boost (20psi), too many revs (7k!) and way too much wheel spin in all gears!!!!!




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posted on November 15th, 2012 at 12:18 PM



Times? Mph? How many runs did you end up getting?



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posted on November 15th, 2012 at 12:42 PM



Really shit times..... Low 15's at 98mph!!!!!
Off to a dyno shop tomorrow to check on timing and AFR's.

Got a NoH2O drag event happening at the end of the month, so will try to break the axles then..... Promise! ;)




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