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posted on June 14th, 2013 at 09:42 PM
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Some people will always pick a more mundane but reliable choice but that's what I love about choice. Some cars are notoriously unreliable eg. alfa
romeo, peugeot etc. But people continue to buy these cars because they love them. A Corolla or i30 is not as nice a car as a golf but probably most
certainly more reliable but reliability isnt the only reason for buying a car. I am looking at buying a tiguan or yeti soon and I wouldnt give a
flying f@#k if it needed a new engine each year of the warranty (after this recall business VWA should have a stockpile of new engines and gearboxes)
as long as my dealer looked after me ! The main dillema I see is used car values at trade in time but if the car is awesome to drive it would be worth
it. Like, what sort of person would drive an old car with no aircon or airbags or abs and need to service every 5000k.............me
I get your point, nearly every car I've ever owned has been because it was interesting or fun to drive, but there's no reason you can't have
reliability too, especially these days and especially when you pay pretty good money for them.
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posted on June 14th, 2013 at 09:51 PM
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My apprentice is currently looking at a 2009 turbo fsi jetta with DSG as a secondhand car from a dealer. If he purchased the jetta would he be able to
take the car to VW for free recall work?
recall is on the car, no matter who owns it.
if the new owner fills out the change of owner ship in the back of the owner manual, which I sure every body does when they buy a used car. they will get letters and any recall in the fture
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I bought a Suzuki Swift off a girl who was going overseas and She had paid for an extra 3 years warranty...
car was only 12 months old... I never told Suzuki I had bought the car...?? maybe i should have..??
but I certainly wouldn't buy a used VW like a JETTA GOLF POLO etc...
then again I wouldn't buy a new one either.. warranty or no warranty..
LEE
You will find that you needed to inform the warranty company within a certain time or its now useless...
I need new cars for my business, and i would rather a VW than a toyota, hyundai or suzuki. Ive done it for years now and lost no more money on a VW
over a suzuki, actually made money with the diesel in fuel economy. Services and parts are similar in price...
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posted on June 15th, 2013 at 07:29 PM
Too true ISOLA, I drive up and down the toowoomba range everyday for work and its astonishing how many people leave their autos in drive and ride the
brakes ALL the way down. My last work car was a manual triton and I replaced the brake pads 3 times in 480,000km. Apparently it is not recommended to
use your gearing to slow down because it is bad for your clutch but the funny thing is I never had to replace mine in half a million
kilometres................ Maybe all these DSG problems are driver problems........
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posted on June 15th, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Warranty should be there for if something goes wrong, not when something goes wrong. I had a TV that went in 3 times for warranty
work for 6 weeks of its first 6 months of life before they gave me a replacement. I can tell you that the inconvenience far outweighed any good
feelings I had about it being fixed for nothing under warranty.
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I've never owned a TOYOTA.. and never will.. lol
whats the difference between toyota and mitsubishi Lee? They are both appliance cars.
My beef with VW is that they have known for years about these problems and kept selling what they knew was defective cars. Why didnt they just develop
a real solution?!?
Mind you cars these days are incredibly cheap. My 1.8l lancer in 1993 was $21990. That price includes optional aircon and power steering. No mod cons
were standard and the only other options were cosmetic. The Polo with cruise, electric everything, climate control, tinted windows, 17 inch wheels,
climate control aircon, remote central locking, bluetooth, trip computer, auto dimming mirror, 6 speaker audio, half a dozen airbags, seat belt
tensioners, abs and more 3 letter acronyms than I can remember. I dont even need to know how to do a hillstart, it does them for me. All for $22500.
Taking into account inflation its by far the cheapest car I have ever owned. Its also a very nice fun drive, much better than an identically priced
Hyundai Accent I had as a courtesy car. Anyone who buys an accent over a polo is... on a totally different wavelength to me. Just stay away from those
1.4 twinchargers and DSG and hopefully everything will be OK.
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posted on June 15th, 2013 at 11:08 PM
I guess the bottom line with cheap cars, is that they are cheap, and I don't mean inexpensive, regardless of the inclusions of airconditioning,
reverse sensors/cameras, electronic everything. You can buy the electronics in Supercrap Auto and fit it yourself
When you have once "luxury" cars now being made affordable to the masses, mass production often leads to problems and less quality control. European
cars now being made in China, Thailand, etc. will lead to a drop off in quality control as the manufacturers try to meet their sales targets. VW is no
exception to this rule.
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posted on June 16th, 2013 at 06:33 PM
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I guess the bottom line with cheap cars, is that they are cheap, and I don't mean inexpensive, regardless of the inclusions of airconditioning,
reverse sensors/cameras, electronic everything. You can buy the electronics in Supercrap Auto and fit it yourself
When you have once "luxury" cars now being made affordable to the masses, mass production often leads to problems and less quality control. European
cars now being made in China, Thailand, etc. will lead to a drop off in quality control as the manufacturers try to meet their sales targets. VW is no
exception to this rule.
ain't that the truth!
F*** new cars!
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posted on June 16th, 2013 at 06:47 PM
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Too true ISOLA, I drive up and down the toowoomba range everyday for work and its astonishing how many people leave their autos in drive and ride the
brakes ALL the way down. My last work car was a manual triton and I replaced the brake pads 3 times in 480,000km. Apparently it is not recommended to
use your gearing to slow down because it is bad for your clutch but the funny thing is I never had to replace mine in half a million
kilometres................ Maybe all these DSG problems are driver problems........
I got 120k or of my semi track and solid brembo disk combo and I hammered the bakes hard and also when i took out and replaced my clutch a bit before
doing the brakes due to an unrelated failure I checked to see how bad the clutch was, the disk and pressure plate weren't even worn in yet and i thought I was really harsh on the clutch.
it turns out when you granny shift and really take your time braking, then thats what wears them to the shithouse as there is tons of friction with no
to little effectiveness.
So you have to be firm with the brakes when you need them, gears when you slowing gently. Jab the clutch when shifting, its good for it as far as all
my experience with it goes. The brakes, without a doubt firm to hard application in a pulsed fashion is the way to get maximum life for effectiveness
and the disks dont warp.
And I do agree, drivers of today are the problem, pure laziness and incompetence.
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and i thought I was really harsh on the clutch.