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With the beers you will have to figure out which are bitters and which are lagers etc. The majority of the ones that the guys have described are not bitters if thats your fav. No one really drinks Fosters - However I can tell you that the Fosters you get in UK is not the same as what they serve up here. So if you like it there, don't buy a jug here till you have tasted a small one. Which brings me to the next point.
Of course, the name of the beer is one thing, then name of the container is the other.
You also have to know which beer is available in the particular part of Australia you are ordering in.

I chopped this from a website for ordering beer in Oz, but dropped the other states as you said you were only really visiting NSW and QLD. Also added in a few comments.

Order a beer in Queensland if you are buying for yourself:

Barman: Mate, are you right?
Queenslander: Pot of XXXX thanks mate
Barman (after getting money): Thanks mate
Queenslander (after getting beer): Thanks mate

or if you are shouting (buying the round):

Queenslander: G'day mate, jug of XXXX thanks
Barman (after getting money): Thanks mate
Queenslander (after getting beer): Thanks mate

Note the words are typically slurred together regardless of whether or not you are sober. Note also, that if you were lucky enough to be served by a barmaid, then you would typically, but not necessarily, drop the use of the word mate. (DONT CALL THEM DORIS!!!!!!!!!, we don't understand that one, its just not an Oz thing)

However in New South Wales:

Barman: Mate, are you right?
Queenslander: Pot of XXXX thanks mate
Barman (looking confused?): Sorry?
Queenslander (thinking and speaking slowly): Sorry, a schooner of New thanks
Barman: Are you from Queensland are you?
Barman (after receipt of money): Cheers
Queenslander (after receipt of beer and trying to fit in linguistically): Cheers

Also in order to speed up and simplify the process of ordering the nectar of the gods a little code for fast and accurate delivery based on the colours of the desired beer can (or tinnie) has been created:

Code Translation
Red Can - Can of Melbourne Bitter
Green Can - Can of Victoria Bitter
Blue Can - Can of Fosters
White Can - Can of Swan Light
Yellow Can - Can of Fourex

For glass sizes though, its all over the shop depoending on what state you are in, and sometimes what pub. To cater for those who don't think very well, a lot of oubs have started to accept terminology that 20 years ago would have raised the question of what language you were speaking???.

New South Wales and A.C.T. (Was pretty sure they have jugs, but left it out in case)
Pint 568ml 20 ounces
Schooner 425ml 15 ounces
Middy 285ml 10 ounces
Seven 200ml 7 ounces
Pony 140ml 5 ounces

Queensland
Jug 1125ml 40 ounces
Schooner (some pubs) 425ml 15 ounces (catering 4 sthners)
Pot 285ml 10 ounces
Middy (some pubs) 285ml 10 ounces(catering 4 sthners)
Ten (some pubs) 285ml 10 ounces (catering 4 sthners)
Beer (some pubs) 200ml 7 ounces
Seven (some pubs) 7 ounces (catering 4 sthners)
Small beer 140ml 5 ounces
Five (some pubs) 140ml 5 ounces (catering 4 sthners)

Love this quote from the page I found :
In North Queensland we still use the nomenclature 'five', 'seven' or 'ten' for our sizes. Rarely, if ever would anyone order a pint [20 oz]. Maybe on a birthday or similar for a mate but never for oneself. If ordered it is referred to either as a 'pint' or, less often, a '20oz.' Guinness is usually ordered by the pint, always as a 'pint', or half pint, referred to as 'a half'. The 15 oz glass is kept by some pubs for tourists unfamiliar with correct behaviour.


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posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 01:18 PM


You can get pints of anything in pretty much any bar I've been to. But it's better value to order a jug if you think you can get through it and don't have to drive.

As I drink the fancy crap, they're almost always in 375 ml bottles, called stubbies everywhere. I don't as a rule drink draft (ie tap) beer unless I'm at the Belgian Beer Cafe where they have drinkable stuff on tap.

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posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 08:11 PM


Now just remember it's hot over here so you can leave all your jumpers and jackets at home in sunny(?) Lewisham plus your long trousers and that way you have a lot more room for Marmite! By the way is Super Accesories still open on the way to Catford. I remember buying a right tasty steering wheel from there, also Macdonalds in Catford was one of the first open in England (silly the things you remember). Also is Pursers stil in the Old Kent Road?
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posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 10:08 PM


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Now just remember it's hot over here so you can leave all your jumpers and jackets at home in sunny(?) Lewisham plus your long trousers and that way you have a lot more room for Marmite! By the way is Super Accesories still open on the way to Catford. I remember buying a right tasty steering wheel from there, also Macdonalds in Catford was one of the first open in England (silly the things you remember). Also is Pursers stil in the Old Kent Road?
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LOL it will be hard to detach myself from my jumpers and my thermal underwear!

How cool does it get in the night over there in summer, also do you ever have any summer rain?

Never heard of super accessories, think that must have closed ages ago!
Macdonalds is still there along with another about 2 minutes walk away! we have hundres of the sh*tholes in london now!

Pursers is still in Old Kent road too!

So what will a despeate ex pat pay to get some marmite and hp sauce lol

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posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 10:12 PM


I'll sell you my old thermal underwear I haven't used them in 16 years Honest guv,
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posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 10:32 PM


Seriously though I finish work most nights at around 11.15 and I drive home in the buggy or the beetle with the roof down in just a t-shirt (plus trousers of course!) Victoria and Tassie would probably not be this warm but up here or further north it's definitely t-shirt and shorts weather-even with my legs. If it rains and you're in the buggy so what you get wet but I'd rather not get the inside of the beetle wet if I can help it. Does it rain?! We can have more in one downpour than London has in a year but here you get it done and done with straight away no drizzle for months on end and miserable grey skies. All you born and bred Aussies I hope you realise how good you get things over here.
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posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 11:21 PM


Excellent I think i can handle that then living in shorts and tees all month!

Seriously if you will give us a blast up noosa in the buggy i'll bring you over some Marmite and HP :D

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posted on November 2nd, 2004 at 11:38 PM


HP is available in every supermarket here. I don't see Marmite that often, so you may as well bring some :)

I think the coldest you'll be is on the plane coming over. I felt cold on my last international flights, and I've got insultation up the wazzoo.

After living in Sydney for a couple of years, I think you might find one or two nights are a bit colder than you'd expect (maybe 15 C or so), but your hotel will be nice and insulated from all that. Brisbane types are in denial about cold nights during winter, but you'll be fine in December. Once you get to far north Queensland (Cairns et al), the wet season might start a bit early, but it should be warm.

Check out the weather here:
http://www.bom.gov.au/ 

Queensland 3 month climate review
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/temp.qld.shtml 

NSW 3 month climate review
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/temp.nsw.shtml 

So it'll be a bit warmer than average this summer. Cool.

Port Douglas historical weather averages:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_031052.shtml 

Average temps during your stay: 20 C - 35 C ... tropical

Brisbane historical weather averages:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_040211.shtml 

Average temps during your stay: 19 - 29 C. More humid than Sydney all the time.

Sydney historical weather averages:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/cw_066037.shtml 

Average temps during your stay: 18 C - 25 C ... it's somewhat humid, expect a few 30+ C days

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posted on November 3rd, 2004 at 05:23 PM


You're on for the Marmite just give me a bell on 5449 1031 when you're up here in Queensland and we're off up the beach!
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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 02:32 PM


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Im in Oz now and have done the east coast from cairns down to melbourne.
There is so much to do on the east coast, make sure you get a lonly planet book of east coast or Australia. Theres so much to see and unfortunatly most of it costs money :). Im here for 3 1/2 months and ill go home broke.

Were in melbourne at the moment and were in sydney before, its not all sun sun sun. for most of the time it actually pissed down with rain, just make sure you pack for it :)

You can get marmite here but its not the same, did spot some stuff called our mate in the same bottle as we get marmite in, oh and have also seen HP sauce in some of the supermarkets.

Byron bay is really nice we stayed there for 2 weeks, also been to Noosa. We surfed at both these places had a few lessons etc.
Nimbin well if you like that sort of thing its ok, hippy down where a blind eye is turned to the herb ;) not my sort of place.

Ive managed to miss any VW things in the time ive been here.

If you want any tips etc about places your going email me and ill let you know if we went there.


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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 07:17 PM


please note that the Marmite contains animal extract (I think check label)so customs maybe taking you into the room with the rubber gloves. Make sure you get the guy/gal with the small hands! They get a bit upset about food coming in something about mad cows or something...................:P



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Im in Oz now and have done the east coast from cairns down to melbourne.
There is so much to do on the east coast, make sure you get a lonly planet book of east coast or Australia. Theres so much to see and unfortunatly most of it costs money :). Im here for 3 1/2 months and ill go home broke.

Were in melbourne at the moment and were in sydney before, its not all sun sun sun. for most of the time it actually pissed down with rain, just make sure you pack for it :)




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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 08:23 PM


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Im in Oz now and have done the east coast from cairns down to melbourne.
There is so much to do on the east coast, make sure you get a lonly planet book of east coast or Australia. Theres so much to see and unfortunatly most of it costs money :). Im here for 3 1/2 months and ill go home broke.

Were in melbourne at the moment and were in sydney before, its not all sun sun sun. for most of the time it actually pissed down with rain, just make sure you pack for it :)

You can get marmite here but its not the same, did spot some stuff called our mate in the same bottle as we get marmite in, oh and have also seen HP sauce in some of the supermarkets.

Byron bay is really nice we stayed there for 2 weeks, also been to Noosa. We surfed at both these places had a few lessons etc.
Nimbin well if you like that sort of thing its ok, hippy down where a blind eye is turned to the herb ;) not my sort of place.

Ive managed to miss any VW things in the time ive been here.

If you want any tips etc about places your going email me and ill let you know if we went there.


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Man i really wish we had longer i dont think we will get to do half the things we want only being a week here and a week there.

Just out of interest how much have you spent on a daily basis? I have the lonely plante book and a few others and one of the books says budget for $80 a day???

Any info, tips and must see will be good thanks!

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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 08:24 PM


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please note that the Marmite contains animal extract (I think check label)so customs maybe taking you into the room with the rubber gloves. Make sure you get the guy/gal with the small hands! They get a bit upset about food coming in something about mad cows or something...................:P


Nah marmite is totally Veggie, its made from Yeast extract. I think its bovril that contains cow juice.

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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 08:35 PM


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Man i really wish we had longer i dont think we will get to do half the things we want only being a week here and a week there.

Just out of interest how much have you spent on a daily basis? I have the lonely plante book and a few others and one of the books says budget for $80 a day???

Any info, tips and must see will be good thanks!

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$80 is cutting it fine. I travel abuot 3/4 of my time at the moment.

If you're staying in hotels, $15-$20 is the going rate for breakfast. Replace this with any nearby cafe for $7-8 for a far better and sustaining breakfast, or go to a supermarket, buy a packet of cereal, decent coffee, oj and milk and spend about $1-2 per person per day.

Lunch is usually around $5-10 mark, but again, supermarket is much cheaper but requires planning and a fridge. Don't buy random pies unless you're into Cut Me Own Throat Dibbler territory. Shakespear and a few others are okay, but as a general rule avoid pie warmers.

Night time, expect to pay around $10 - $30 at a half decent restaurant or $8-10 on Maccas, or less if you can sponge off mates.

You'll need incidental money, rental car money or transport money, and tourist trap money.

You can do it on $80 / day, but it'll be cutting it fine.

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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 09:42 PM


We have most of our hotels/accommedation paid for. Just have 5 nights unaccounted as we have a hire car we are gonna just drive about. I think some of our stays inclde breakfast so will have to stock up then.

I have more than $80 to spend a day but was just wondering how much of a realistic figure that was. I was thinking of $100 a day so that way if i spend less i will have more for gifts and goodies :D
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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 09:44 PM


So when you get here will you still be Lobdon bugger or Aussie bugger. Just a thought, I'm really bored.lol



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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 09:59 PM


Hmmmmmmm

Good question maybe I will be pale skinned tourist bugger :D
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posted on November 5th, 2004 at 10:05 PM


I guess it depends on how you eat etc.
If you est well, then it costs more etc. I reckon I can get away with $50 for food a day when I travel, but then I don't eat that much. so maybe thats not good advice. I reckon you will get the gist of it fairly quick and know where to eat and where not to.
Agrre with Andrew, pie warmers are about as safe as wandering through the shades with a gold necklace!! If you want to try a pie and can find one, try a bakery. Fuel is about $1 per litre, but if you shop at certain supermarkets, you can get the vouchers for 4c/litre off. Since its a hire car, feel free to use the cheap unleaded fuel :)




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or will you just be Bugger???????????



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posted on November 6th, 2004 at 09:54 AM


well im in melbourne till the 18th of nov.

As for budget i couldnt tell you daily. hostels are around 18-25 a night, the most costly thing id going out on the piss so i havent done it that much.

cooking your own food is best way to do it, some backpackers type places have good cheap food. Spent around 1000 uk pounds a month doing every thing we wanted to and all the tourist stuff
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London Bugger,give me a email at home ( Peter Page- Dak-A-Tak) .We might take Rods ( 48IDA )bugout to the track on Dec 4.
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Hmmmmmmm

Good question maybe I will be pale skinned tourist bugger :D


Maybe Lobster bugger, like most poms on hols in Oz, be careful with the sun tanning!




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Hmmmmmmm

Good question maybe I will be pale skinned tourist bugger :D


Maybe Lobster bugger, like most poms on hols in Oz, be careful with the sun tanning!


Well we got factor 60 lotion to start and then progress down to lower factors dont want to end up cooked!!!

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Hey

just a warning about up here. Even though it looks cloudy.... still put sunscreen on okay!!

Trust me on that, you will burn if it is just an overcast day.

If its raining, then thats different.

Good luck, must be almost upon you now???




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I have been here about two weeks come from woking near london, oz is much better, you can get everything you want and a schoner is a better size than a pint, give me a shout if you want to hook up for a cold one. Not that i can find my way round well, but I am learning and I can find the pub.



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Ummm

beerboy, one thing he may need to know.
Just where in Oz are you????????:duh




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Hi Rob,you can give me a call on 0409004767 work phone,or email me on carorama@dodo.com.au about your ussie trip.
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posted on November 22nd, 2004 at 08:15 AM


So are you here yet?????????????????



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