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| posted on October 21st, 2005 at 09:14 PM |
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OK lets keep it relevent,
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man.......not ONE of you post have been relavent!!
I have had a ball looking at you past posts.
For a newbie you come on here and not one of your posts has provided any helpful information
Ummmm.... do you have any engine combo's to post??............................
Why is it every couple of months we get some one who is TRYING to be funny???
Seriously dude.....keep posting
It is people like you that proves i am not in the the botton 10% :kiss
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on October 22nd, 2005 at 06:44 AM |
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There are advantages in reving your engine past the power peak.
It just depends on how fast the power drops off.
In some cases you have to go way past the peak
so that in the next gear the power is still significant.
This is where dyno graphs are very useful.
Even if there is 20 hp less at 7000 for example,
there is still an advantage because when the engine drops
to 5000 in the next gear it may actually be less than this.
This is the reason for closer ratio gears.
Even if you don't believe in a dyno's HP acuracy, knowing
the RPM where peak HP and TORQUE are, can be a great advantage.
Hope this is relevant to the thread.
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| posted on October 22nd, 2005 at 06:51 AM |
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Shiftys engine at 100 Hp should run in the low 14's.
Being that he is building it for Nitrous and for the
street, comprimises to N/A HP have to be made.
With a 100shot, 11's should be achieveable.
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on October 22nd, 2005 at 08:23 AM |
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thats what i had in mind dave, Ill quite happily compromise my NA power for a larger total figure on gas. I will be trying a very large cam combo due
to fact that i want to rev this high when on nitrous, same or higher hp but lower peak cylinder pressures is the idea. Wearing the motor out quickly
is not a concern, its not expensive or hard to freshen them up. My llmiting factor at the moment will be the VW id springs. Ill have to check the seat
pressure and lift on them.
testing 1 2 3...
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| posted on October 24th, 2005 at 10:36 AM |
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Revs
I rev my engine at least 1000 rpm past it's peak power because it's proven faster than changing to a higher gear. I've held 2nd down a short
straight in in the Grafton hillclimb and third down the back straight at Wakefield park and compared the times to changing up and it's just not worth
the time loss.
The other point is high revs are feel more aggressive and more fun when you're trying to go your hardest. The engine also sounds good at high revs
which is cool for the drive and the spectators.
I suggest listening to Greg Wards hillclimb car at wide open throttle at max revs. It sounds like no other volkswagen.
If you want longevity and not revs then stick to a stocker and go and read anther post.
CYA CT
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| posted on October 24th, 2005 at 07:36 PM |
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I never said you were full of shit vdubya, just that you were an asshole! Theres a difference lol.
I know macca and morgans car but im planning on less motor and more gas for a similar result.
testing 1 2 3...
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| posted on September 2nd, 2006 at 12:50 AM |
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Any more updates, this was such an interesting thread.
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| posted on September 2nd, 2006 at 03:03 AM |
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looks like everyones going subie
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| posted on September 2nd, 2006 at 10:57 AM |
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We better start 'how to install a radiator' and 'how to build a gearbox' threads!
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on September 2nd, 2006 at 10:25 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by lugnuts
Hmmmm,i was thinking of staying out of this until i was a bit further along, BUT i just cant help myself,im gathering parts for a stroker ive got
everything roughly priced at $9300,so far ive got a new mag case,new CB 82mm crank,DRLA 48 tri-jets with 40 vents,Mallory Unilite i havnt got the
spring kit yet,and an 1 5/8 side facing header from A-1 should be sailing my way as we speak,so im into about $3000 with another 6-7 to go,theres no
labour in these costs so machining and ballancing are additional.Anyway this is MY combo.
1. 2276 = 94 x 82
2.FK-8
3.42 x 37 AJs or DRD heads
4.9.5:1 comp
5.48 DRLA tri-jets 40 vents
6.1 5/8 side facing headers by A-1
7.CB 5.4" H beam rods with ARP 2000 bolts
8.Kennedy stage 1 with Daiken disc
9.CE straight cuts
10.H.D. alloy push rods
11.26mm Shadeck pump full flowed
12.Schubeck composite lifters
13.Mallory Unilite with spring kit
14.CB or Berg 1.4 ratio rockers
15.German flywheel lightened reground
16.36 horse doghouse shroud
17.Berg fan
18.Static ballanced pistons pins rings rods
19.Dynamically ballanced crank flywheel cluctch pulley gears.
So there u have it,should be all sitting on my bench end of 06,after that i need another $2400 for a Pro-street box,steady fellas i bruise easilly
:kiss
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Update.Changes.
CB Performance Aluminium case will work with the Schubeck lifters a bit better,ile keep the AS41 for a spare.
This is what i have so far.
42x37.5 AJs Streetport heads 60cc with ported straight manifolds manifolds,for more info goto lowbugget.com.
$1400 in measuring tools
48 dell tri-jets with stacks of jets to play with.
Schubeck ceramic lifters.
A-1 1 5/8 sidewiinder header ceramic coated with O2 bung.
CB 4340 82mm crank
Mallory Unilite with spring kit NO vacuum advance.
CB 5.4in H beams arp 2000 bolts
CB forged 1.4 rockers.
GWD carb linkage
Engle FK-8 clearanced for a stroker.
Latest guesstimate $15g 8.5 down 6.5 togo:P:thumb
[ Edited on 3-9-2006 by lugnuts ]
Dont listen to what they say,just watch what they do.Oh yeah ive NEVER finished anything ive started.:o
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| posted on September 3rd, 2006 at 11:06 AM |
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Has anybody here in Oz played with the new big throat 44mm Kadrons?
Pay your debts, CxxT
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| posted on February 24th, 2007 at 08:49 PM |
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Any more updates ?
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| posted on February 27th, 2007 at 12:08 PM |
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My New engine should go in next week, so hopefully get some dyno figures etc in a few months once run in and properly tuned. But basic specs
- New mag case (stay within PRC if ever i want to go down that road)
- cb 69mm crank- offset ground 72mm stroke
- 94mm barrels and pistons (with crank gives 1999cc's)
- 10.6:1 CR
- Engle 120 cam
- 1.25:1 rockers
- CB wedge ports
- 48 ida's
- Will run a simple 009 for now (msd or mallory will be in, when my bank accoutn recovers)
- plus all the other little bits and pieces all new except for second hand german tinware.
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
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| posted on February 27th, 2007 at 03:11 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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My New engine should go in next week, so hopefully get some dyno figures etc in a few months once run in and properly tuned. But basic specs
- New mag case (stay within PRC if ever i want to go down that road)
- cb 69mm crank- offset ground 72mm stroke
- 94mm barrels and pistons (with crank gives 1999cc's)
- 10.6:1 CR
- Engle 120 cam
- 1.25:1 rockers
- CB wedge ports
- 48 ida's
- Will run a simple 009 for now (msd or mallory will be in, when my bank accoutn recovers)
- plus all the other little bits and pieces all new except for second hand german tinware.
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And you thought that motor bike was fast!
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That's mad Alan.
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| posted on February 27th, 2007 at 04:14 PM |
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It should be resonably quick for a sub 2L motor, but i think the bike may still have the edge 
Also it will run with a std L bug SSP gb, but with a 1.44 3rd.......
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
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| posted on February 27th, 2007 at 06:44 PM |
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Hey Bix,
Who did the work on the crank?
VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
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| posted on February 28th, 2007 at 08:18 AM |
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Crankshaft Engineering (daves old workplace?)
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
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| posted on February 28th, 2007 at 08:19 AM |
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VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa
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| posted on February 28th, 2007 at 08:50 AM |
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Hi all, i have bought this type 1 2275cc engine from delux66(damo), it was originally built by Stan Pobjoy over 10 years ago, he just simply rebuilt
with new crank and cam bearings, new piston rings and new gasket kit. The engine has a SPG Roller crank in it. I have a list of all measurements
obtained in the build: 2275cc Roller Engine Assembly tolerances:
Camshaft Axial Play : 0.06mm
Camshaft gear to crank gear backlash: 0.02mm
Cylinder Shims: 1.15mm
Crankshaft endplay: 0.09mm
Deck height TDC: #1 1.78mm #2 1.81mm #3 1.78mm #4 1.76mm
Head CC: #1 67cc #2 67cc #3 67cc #4 67cc
Calculated Compression Ratio: 8.1:1
Total valve lift : 0.460” or 11.68mm
Valve geometry set @ Half total lift: 5.84mm
Stroke: 82mm
Bore: 94mm
Rocker ratio: 1.25:1
Crank mains: 0.25mm under ID, OD standard
see pics of the build here
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=55742
ill try and get some more specs
all i know is its the best vw donk i've ever owned runs awsome pulls hard sounds awsome (through the cannons)my neighbours prob dont think so
wadda ya rekon??
[ Edited on 27-2-2007 by newoldmanx ]
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| posted on February 28th, 2007 at 10:44 AM |
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Get rid of the cannons! Fit some conventional pipes and it will run even better... and be quieter
[ Edited on 28-2-2007 by VWCOOL ]
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| posted on February 28th, 2007 at 11:15 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Get rid of the cannons! Fit some conventional pipes and it will run even better... and be quieter
[ Edited on 28-2-2007 by VWCOOL ]
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personally... i love the noise could be louder
but can you tell me
1. why it would run better
2. by better do you mean more power or more reliable
3. would a 4into1 header with stinger be the go?? what size pipes 1 5/8's???
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| posted on February 28th, 2007 at 07:15 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by newoldmanx
| Quote: | Originally
posted by VWCOOL
Get rid of the cannons! Fit some conventional pipes and it will run even better... and be quieter
[ Edited on 28-2-2007 by VWCOOL ]
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personally... i love the noise could be louder
but can you tell me
1. why it would run better
2. by better do you mean more power or more reliable
3. would a 4into1 header with stinger be the go?? what size pipes 1 5/8's???
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Put reaaallly simply, at the moment it's running like two badly-tuned two cylinder engines joined together by an ignition system
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do you mean like a pair of well tuned harley's running on one cdi
do you have any "informed" answers for any of my three questions.
maybe something like "exhaust speeds help scavenging in the cylinders" or something plausable
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by newoldmanx
do you mean like a pair of well tuned harley's running on one cdi
do you have any "informed" answers for any of my three questions.
maybe something like "exhaust speeds help scavenging in the cylinders" or something plausable
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well-tuned harley? is there such a thing?!
If they are anything like the cannons I know of, the pipe lenghts etc are woeful and what you said about exhaust speeds is on the right track
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yeah a well tuned harley runs like a badly tuned two cyl engine
its just a car for f*%k sake
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| Quote: | Originally
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by lugnuts
Hmmmm,i was thinking of staying out of this until i was a bit further along, BUT i just cant help myself,im gathering parts for a stroker ive got
everything roughly priced at $9300,so far ive got a new mag case,new CB 82mm crank,DRLA 48 tri-jets with 40 vents,Mallory Unilite i havnt got the
spring kit yet,and an 1 5/8 side facing header from A-1 should be sailing my way as we speak,so im into about $3000 with another 6-7 to go,theres no
labour in these costs so machining and ballancing are additional.Anyway this is MY combo.
1. 2276 = 94 x 82
2.FK-8 (x)
3.42 x 37 AJs or DRD heads
4.9.5:1 comp (x)
5.48 DRLA tri-jets 40 vents
6.1 5/8 side facing headers by A-1
7.CB 5.4" H beam rods with ARP 2000 bolts
8.Kennedy stage 1 with Daiken disc
9.CE straight cuts
10.H.D. alloy push rods (x)
11.26mm Shadeck pump full flowed
12.Schubeck composite lifters
13.Mallory Unilite with spring kit
14.CB 1.4 ratio rockers
15.German flywheel lightened reground
16.36 horse doghouse shroud
17.Berg fan (x)
18.Static ballanced pistons pins rings rods
19.Dynamically ballanced crank flywheel cluctch pulley gears.
So there u have it,should be all sitting on my bench end of 06,after that i need another $2400 for a Pro-street box,steady fellas i bruise easilly
:kiss
[ Edited on 16-10-2005 by lugnuts ]
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Update.Changes.
CB Performance Aluminium case will work with the Schubeck lifters a bit better,ile keep the AS41 for a spare.
This is what i have so far.
42x37.5 AJs Streetport heads 60cc with ported straight manifolds manifolds,for more info goto lowbugget.com.
$1400 in measuring tools
48 dell tri-jets with stacks of jets to play with.
Schubeck ceramic lifters.
A-1 1 5/8 sidewiinder header ceramic coated with O2 bung.
CB 4340 82mm crank
Mallory Unilite with spring kit NO vacuum advance.
CB 5.4in H beams arp 2000 bolts
CB forged 1.4 rockers.
GWD carb linkage
Engle FK-8 clearanced for a stroker.
Latest guesstimate $15g 8.5 down 6.5 togo:P:thumb
[ Edited on 3-9-2006 by lugnuts ]
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Ok,so im only waiting on a starter alternator and a muffler,the build starts mid June.Cam is now a V-26 like a W-120 for ratio rockers.All rotating
assembly has been ballanced to a nats ball by Crankshaft Engineering with paperwork for before and after ballance.
Also acquired
LM-1 wideband with rpm converter
Berg oil filter kit and vented VCs
Stage 1 clutch
Daiken super disc
Lite flywheel german
CSP headstuds
CE straight cuts
BMD pulley system (for the #ank factor)
and really too much stuff to list,#hit loads of the little stuff and vw tools,everything new except the carbs.Just have to do a preassembly before my
hols so i can order the manton pushrods.I also changed my CR from 9.5:1 to 9:1 by machining the piston crown,why because i wanted to keep my chosen
deck height of 0.045,and because i can :P
[ Edited on 19-5-2007 by lugnuts ]
Dont listen to what they say,just watch what they do.Oh yeah ive NEVER finished anything ive started.:o
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