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I have seen no production Type3 with wide 5 dome hub caps standard. In 66 most Beetles from made at Wolfsburg had wide 5 flat hub cap but you could
option disc brakes in 66 and had a hub cap like this.
If you see a hub cap like this on a Type3 in Australia get excited because this is what German 66-67 type3s had. 1500s told us there were a few fully
imported 66 fastbacks.
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Some pics of mine in original condition (except for that awful numberplate!)...before I started making umm m "changes" 
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Mmmm nice type3lover. This car has
1968 chassis No.
12v system
1600 dual port
Savanna Beige
1600 badge on the deck lid
Still has wide 5 drum brakes
316N? Looks like its got all the chrome. What is the difference between an Australian 316N and a 316S?
What is the Model No. in your Volkswagen Service Booklet?
What is the interior color?
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Absolutely corrrect!
Might be way off but I thought the N had the single side draught carburettor. Or is that the 1500N? I'm confused lol.
I'll track down the service booklet...I know I kept it somewhere!
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| posted on July 3rd, 2010 at 07:46 PM |
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Interior was grey carpet, offwhite perforated headliner. 3 tone door cards in red, black and beige
instruments had WHITE needles
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Ahhh Also your car has thin side chrome, makes sense because VW Australia stopped producing trim in late 67 at the end of the Aussie Beetle ( although
the T1 1300 Custom still had it in 68)
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I have recently asked on the samba about the number tag spot welded to the body that is behind the spare wheel. Nobody knew anything about it so I
guess it's an Oz thing/body number ?
Type3lover I thought all 68 were 4 stud wheels? mine is 318200071 so not much newer than yours. 4 stud wheels, 12 volt, discs up front, heated seats
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Aussie built type 3's from 1963 to 1969 atleast ( including the CKD cars) have the body number tag. I don't have a 1970 model, but by 1971 there is
no body number tag and the compliance plate no longer has "Made in Germany". The fully imported cars don't have this tag.
Have never heard of Heated Seats as an option for any year Type 3. Could you please post a picture or description to clarify,
Cheers, Pat.
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Absolutely corrrect!
Might be way off but I thought the N had the single side draught carburettor. Or is that the 1500N? I'm confused lol.
I'll track down the service booklet...I know I kept it somewhere!
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The 1500N did have the single side draught carb as did the 1500A which continued to 1968 in other parts of the world, maybe even Australia. Some
repair manuals even list a 1600A. Did this 1600A engine have the single carb with single port heads still?? Some of you may recall maybe mid 90s
Volksworld Mag?? had a story about "Plain Jane" which from memory had the single carb 1600 and drum brakes up front. But then again to confuse us
more, a British site gives the Type 3 1600A as having a single carb 1500 engine!!!!!!!! Anyone still got that mag??
The Type 3 got disc brakes in 66, even on the 1500 Notch hence the 4 stud wheels and the resulting "new" hubcap fixing. We saw none of these
here... well maybe a couple of imports. We should be able to find plenty of early hubcaps but just try finding really good ones.
We know the Fasty got the 1600 engine with twin carbs right from square one in 66 and the Square got the 1600 twin carb dual port in '67 sometime but
none of our cars got the discs generally until '69.
One thing we have to be careful of is not to compare much of the local production trim and some running gear with that of full German assembly as we
actually made the basic version in most cases.
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| posted on July 3rd, 2010 at 10:04 PM |
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I was just looking at an Australian 1967 all models brochure. There was a pic of a 1500 Deluxe type3 as 1500S wrote about in another thead. On the
outside it looked just like Vice's car but with a 1500 single carb engine,that car must be a 67 316N. I think type3lovers car is a 68 316N and VW
Australia dropped the 316S Dec 67 because the CKD cars were coming. Mmmmm Maybe
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| posted on July 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 PM |
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Ahhh Also your car has thin side chrome, makes sense because VW Australia stopped producing trim in late 67 at the end of the Aussie Beetle ( although
the T1 1300 Custom still had it in 68)
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Hi
I believe the side strips on custom beetles was stainless steel same as the bumpers...
I don't think it was used in German made vehicles.??
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| posted on July 3rd, 2010 at 11:45 PM |
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I have seen no production Type3 with wide 5 dome hub caps standard. In 66 most Beetles from made at Wolfsburg had wide 5 flat hub cap but you could
option disc brakes in 66 and had a hub cap like this.
If you see a hub cap like this on a Type3 in Australia get excited because this is what German 66-67 type3s had. 1500s told us there were a few fully
imported 66 fastbacks.
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I have never seen a hubcap like that from memory...
I'll have to take notice from now on.... lol
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| posted on July 4th, 2010 at 01:36 PM |
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posted by 68AutoBug
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posted by Burrelli
I have seen no production Type3 with wide 5 dome hub caps standard. In 66 most Beetles from made at Wolfsburg had wide 5 flat hub cap but you could
option disc brakes in 66 and had a hub cap like this.
If you see a hub cap like this on a Type3 in Australia get excited because this is what German 66-67 type3s had. 1500s told us there were a few fully
imported 66 fastbacks.
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I have never seen a hubcap like that from memory...
I'll have to take notice from now on.... lol
LEE
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My 67 imported beetle has those(although not still on the car, they were superceded by genuine Gasburners!).
Lets clear this up right here and now...
That nipple 4 stud hubcap was on German built models from chassis 316000001 up to 317139332 and is part number 311601151B. It then went to part number
311601151D which is the conventional 4 stud hub cap as we know it from chassis number 317139333. 66/67 german built beetles had the same up to about
Sept/October 1967 and then went to the non nipple 4 stud hub cap.
Also of worthy note is the fact that German built type 3's, type 3 ghias and Type1 ghias had wheel trims as standard equipment, part number 311601155
from beginning of 4 stud production in August 1965...
so a certain Pigalle owner on here should have both the nipple 4 stud hub cap and the correct wheel trims which will be marked "CK VW
311601155"around the inner perimeter and have the grey plastic grommet in the valve hole as per all genuine wheel trims...
Australian built Type 3's had the flat early 5 stud hub cap through to 1964, part number 311601151. Australian 65-67 models had the Euro beetle flat
5 stud hubcap part number 131601151(looks like an early type 3 cap but with rounder edges when compared to an early one). They went to the
conventional 4 stud cap 311601151D as we know them in 1968.
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My original Aussie 1965 1500S came with the early flatter hubcaps with recessed VW emblem in the centre, so probably some delay in the change over of
parts. Another way to tell the later 5 stud caps is the raised VW emblem.
I know of 2 pigalles still in Australia, a Type 3 ghia in NSW and a Fastback in Vic, both with original nipple caps I think
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I have recently asked on the samba about the number tag spot welded to the body that is behind the spare wheel. Nobody knew anything about it so I
guess it's an Oz thing/body number ?
Type3lover I thought all 68 were 4 stud wheels? mine is 318200071 so not much newer than yours. 4 stud wheels, 12 volt, discs up front, heated seats
etc
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Aussie built type 3's from 1963 to 1969 atleast ( including the CKD cars) have the body number tag. I don't have a 1970 model, but by 1971 there is
no body number tag and the compliance plate no longer has "Made in Germany". The fully imported cars don't have this tag.
Have never heard of Heated Seats as an option for any year Type 3. Could you please post a picture or description to clarify,
Cheers, Pat.
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My 1970 model has no tag like 1971
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| posted on July 5th, 2010 at 10:11 AM |
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I have seen no production Type3 with wide 5 dome hub caps standard. In 66 most Beetles from made at Wolfsburg had wide 5 flat hub cap but you could
option disc brakes in 66 and had a hub cap like this.
If you see a hub cap like this on a Type3 in Australia get excited because this is what German 66-67 type3s had. 1500s told us there were a few fully
imported 66 fastbacks.
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I have never seen a hubcap like that from memory...
I'll have to take notice from now on.... lol
LEE
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My 67 imported beetle has those(although not still on the car, they were superceded by genuine Gasburners!).
Lets clear this up right here and now...
That nipple 4 stud hubcap was on German built models from chassis 316000001 up to 317139332 and is part number 311601151B. It then went to part number
311601151D which is the conventional 4 stud hub cap as we know it from chassis number 317139333. 66/67 german built beetles had the same up to about
Sept/October 1967 and then went to the non nipple 4 stud hub cap.
Also of worthy note is the fact that German built type 3's, type 3 ghias and Type1 ghias had wheel trims as standard equipment, part number 311601155
from beginning of 4 stud production in August 1965...
so a certain Pigalle owner on here should have both the nipple 4 stud hub cap and the correct wheel trims which will be marked "CK VW
311601155"around the inner perimeter and have the grey plastic grommet in the valve hole as per all genuine wheel trims...
Australian built Type 3's had the flat early 5 stud hub cap through to 1964, part number 311601151. Australian 65-67 models had the Euro beetle flat
5 stud hubcap part number 131601151(looks like an early type 3 cap but with rounder edges when compared to an early one). They went to the
conventional 4 stud cap 311601151D as we know them in 1968.
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So Dyno where are the photos of the beetle with OG Gasburners??!!!???!?!?!? i had to drive along way to deliver those PICS PICS!!!!
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I should get it out aye!!!! The SA VW scene has been so inspiring lately(sarcastic cough and spew..)!!!
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More great info there...
I didn't know 4 stud wheels were used on type 3 so early..
LEE
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4 stud started in 68 Lee, the hubcaps look like the 4 stud hub cap however fit a 5 stud type 3 only wheel this gives the outer appearance of a 4 stud
hucap
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Here is some pics of a 65 Type 3 Panel Van that I once owned. It was Ruby red in Colour, which I think nearly all Aussie panels were. Mine had chassis
number PVC147 attached behind the spare wheel.
Steve Carter told me they were used by Harris Tea as delivery vehicles.
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here is the Body number.
And Lee there were German panel vans produced albeit in small numbers. Most that have come up are in Norway/Sweden.
Cheers
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4 stud started in 68 Lee, the hubcaps look like the 4 stud hub cap however fit a 5 stud type 3 only wheel this gives the outer appearance of a 4 stud
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4 stud IN AUSTRALIAN BUILT CARS started in 68. In Europe, it was 66. One of my cars as well as a few others made it onto these shores. I have seen
several imported 66 type 3's over the years, most still sporting their original nipple 4 stud hub caps.
Do these look 5 stud to you?
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I cannot remember ever seeing those hubcaps....
only the flat edged type...
what years were the Aust type 3 panel vans made?
they looked like mid 60s to me...
and I can't remember seeing any red ones...lol
light green comes to mind...??
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I cannot remember ever seeing those hubcaps....
only the flat edged type...
what years were the Aust type 3 panel vans made?
they looked like mid 60s to me...
and I can't remember seeing any red ones...lol
light green comes to mind...??
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Aussie panel vans were predominantly 65 models. Funnily enough, I have records of more white than red Australian panel vans. here is a pic of a red
one...
Anybody else have an imported S out there? I have also seen Variant S wrecks too, but never a complete one.
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My aussie built 65 1500S
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Rob Waldon's old Notch above??!!
Not too many of the imported ones left Dyno. I seem to have the only one here in NSW although there was the one rusting away in a paddock at Young,
NSW, owned by Marco ? who was atthe Fyshwick VW place in late 90s. Anyone know what happened to Marco and this S? Aaron has two in Adelaide but
only one will ever be a runner as an original S. The other will be some sort of race car. This one is only about 4 numbers different production ti
my S so no doubt came off the line the same day in Germany. Not sure if the white one from Melbourne got sold and remained in the country. Was
for sale 12 months or so back.
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There Was a white one now black and for sale thats an imported S, numberplate "Notch"
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There Was a white one now black and for sale thats an imported S, numberplate "Notch"
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Where's it for sale Adam?
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anyone ever see those type of lights on the front apron of the red type 3..
they look like they were made to fit the front of the car????
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Seen them before, Was pics of them in the rare accessories on the samba.. Think they where Bosch ones.
Cheers Vice.
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The spotties are Genuine type 3 accessorie
Dallas the car is for sale in Melb, i think it was on carsales, i know who owns it.
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