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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 01:37 PM |
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The following email /petition was set to mr today from a hot rod co-worker
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Car Enthusiasts Against lowering and raising vehicle laws !Target:10000.Sponsored by: http://www.downundertruckin.com
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/94/help-save-the-future-of-modified-cars-in-nsw
Futue te ipsum!!!
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 06:00 PM |
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i went and spoke to my mate today who does pinks and blueys to get his take on it and hes said basically what i already suspected
theyre given a book with specs for the standard distance from the center of the hub to the top of the wheel arch and it has to be within 50mm of this
measurement
like i thought it doesnt go as far back as aircooled vws so unless there blantantly lowered will mostly go unnoticed
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 06:05 PM |
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Hi
I was looking at my 1303 owners manual today. It lists width etc, it says the height of an unladen 1303 is 1500 mm, mines way under that.
Steve
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 08:13 PM |
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recieved this response today.........:
Thank you for your recent email in relation to the NSW Labor Government’s changes to regulations relating to the lowering and raising of motor
vehicles.
I have forwarded a copy of your correspondence on to NSW Nationals Leader and Shadow Minister for Roads, Mr Andrew Stoner MP, for his
consideration.
The NSW Liberals and Nationals oppose these changes, which have been introduced by the Rees Labor Government without consultation or any debate in the
NSW Parliament.
The NSW Liberals and Nationals have called upon the Minister for Roads to withdraw the policy and will continue to pursue this issue on behalf of NSW
motorists when Parliament resumes in September.
Yours sincerely
(signed)
Hon. Mike Gallacher MLC
Leader of the Opposition in the Legislative Council
Shadow Minister for Police
Shadow Minister for the Hunter
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 09:17 PM |
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Wow there is someone who might give a shit what the taxpayers have to say.
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 09:56 PM |
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posted by Klaus
Wow there is someone who might give a shit what the taxpayers have to say.
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he's only interested *apparently* because he needs your vote to get into power.. thats all..
but all the power to raise the issue to a head and have it debated properly..
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 09:56 PM |
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naive. the opposition will always say what you want to here. Easiest thing to do in the world is sit there and say the opposite to the guy with bigger
hat. Turnbull seems to be the only one having difficulty with that.
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 10:41 PM |
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really.. but polititions are so truthful and understanding. better vote greens then .
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 11:48 PM |
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Hi
I just read on 4WD forum that VS150 has been put on hold. http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=74015
Steve
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| posted on July 29th, 2009 at 11:58 PM |
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The press release.
NSW MINISTER FOR ROADS MICHAEL DALEY MP
N E W S R E L E A S E
MINISTER AGREES TO FURTHER CONSULTATION ON CAR MODIFICATION LAWS
Wednesday 29 July 2009
Minister for Roads Michael Daley today met with representatives from the 4WD communityand car industry who asked for the introduction of proposed
vehicle modification rules to be delayed and for more time to consult.
Mr Daley said he agreed to put the rule changes on hold and that more consultation was needed following the meeting.
Ive listened to feedback from the industry and the community, and have agreed to set up a working party to look more closely at how we are going to
address this road safety issue, he said.
All of those who attended todays meeting agreed that safety is paramount and that unsafe modifications of vehicles do need be stamped out.
The working group will include representatives from the NSW Centre for Road Safety,
Four Wheel Drive NSW-ACT, Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association, the Australian 4WD Industry Council as well as other agencies and experts, Mr
Daley said.
Executive Director of Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association Stuart Charity said this was a terrific outcome.
Were passionate about road safety and we understand the intent of the regulation is to make the roads safer he said.
Were looking forward to working towards a practical solution that meets road safety objectives while also taking industry views into account, Mr
Charity said.
Greg Redfern from Four Wheel Drive NSW-ACT also welcomed the outcome and said the working group would have their full support.
We want to eliminate unsafe practices in the driving community and well work with the government to make sure these new regulations meet those
objectives without any adverse consequences for the motoring community at large, he said.
We all agree that there is no place for extreme and illegal modifications, but the clubs in our association follow a strict code of conduct and
ethics, and we want to make sure theyre not punished, Mr Redfern said.
Contact: 9228 5665
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| posted on July 30th, 2009 at 07:39 AM |
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should be interesting. First amendment all commodores with stock rims out back and 20's upfront will be defected and then the fine will double if a
"UNIT" sticker is on the back window ha ha .
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| posted on August 1st, 2009 at 08:21 AM |
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www.nothoons.com.au
Thank you for your email in regards to the Rees Labor Government's new vehicle suspension regulations.
As you may be aware, the Rees Government has recently backflipped on their harsh new vehicle modification laws, following pressure from the community
and the media.
According to Labor Roads Minister Michael Daley, the new regulations will now be put 'on hold' to allow more time for consultation.
This is not good enough.
We are calling on the Minister Daley to rule out these changes indefinitely.
The fight is not over. Please take a minute to sign our online petition at http://www.nothoons.com.au and help fight these out of touch new rules.
Yours sincerely
Andrew Stoner MP
Shadow Minister for Roads
Leader of The Nationals - NSW
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| posted on August 1st, 2009 at 09:22 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
theyre given a book with specs for the standard distance from the center of the hub to the top of the wheel arch and it has to be within 50mm of this
measurement
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my baja bug has modified arches, theres 30 cm (300mm) between the top of the tyre and the lip of the arch, i've not lifted the car 30cm!!
all the rules for car mods in Oz seem a bit wierd, if they REALLY want to cut down on hoon deaths etc restrict engine size for P platers and leave the
sensible guys alone!
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| posted on August 1st, 2009 at 08:35 PM |
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It's a case of a NON-Car enthusiast making laws on something they know nothing about......
If these pollies actually gave a stuff about road deaths, then they would target the clowns head on and not penalize those that do the right thing.
Also they should spend our taxes on making safer roads for us to drive on!!.....
Cheers
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| posted on August 1st, 2009 at 09:02 PM |
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Why do we need safer roads to drive on, while I agree that good roads are nice to have, if you are going to drive across a padock then you drive to
suit the condition of the padock, ie drive to suit the condition of the road your on, the road doesn't cause the problem it's the way we drive on
the particular road.
I dream of a day when a chicken can cross a road without being asked for it's motive!
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| posted on August 2nd, 2009 at 07:49 AM |
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As an observer in the US I am just astounded by this example of governmental meddling. Here in California there is no such thing as going to an
engineer to have a suspension modification (or anything else) approved and there's no carnage occurring on our highways due to suspension
modifications.
OTOH, Cali is draconian about engine and exhaust mods (as in, "can't do any at all") unless your vehicle is '74 or older. Even then you are just
exempt from inspection, not from maintaining the stock configuration.
"It's not a good idea, it's the law..."
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| posted on August 2nd, 2009 at 08:08 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
Why do we need safer roads to drive on, while I agree that good roads are nice to have, if you are going to drive across a padock then you drive to
suit the condition of the padock, ie drive to suit the condition of the road your on, the road doesn't cause the problem it's the way we drive on
the particular road.
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to an extent.........you can drive carefully all day, but only a divided road will save you when the person driving in the other direction is
asleep.........
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| posted on August 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
Why do we need safer roads to drive on, while I agree that good roads are nice to have, if you are going to drive across a padock then you drive to
suit the condition of the padock, ie drive to suit the condition of the road your on, the road doesn't cause the problem it's the way we drive on
the particular road.
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if your bush bashing in a 4wd then your right, but if you're in your own paddock then you don't have to comply with any law...
My point was that if the pollies actually gave a stuff about making things safer, then they would make things right for the public and fix
them.....instead of coming up with ridiculous laws that don't benefit anyone..
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| posted on August 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 PM |
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what does it take to overthrow a government these days?
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| posted on August 3rd, 2009 at 09:08 AM |
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you can chuck em out but what will they be replaced with? the other mob arent much better
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| posted on August 3rd, 2009 at 06:48 PM |
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Hi
I received a letter from Barry O'Farrel today responding to my email.
I also got this back from my local member.
"Dear Steve,
Thank you for your email. Following concerns expressed by many people in the community about the nature & extent of the proposed changes the
Minister has decided to delay their introduction pending further investigation and community consultation. I will refer your concerns to the Minister
and provide you with a copy of his response when received.
Regards,
Kevin Greene
MEMBER FOR OATLEY
8 Ormonde Pde
Hurstville NSW 2220
Tel: 9580 9349 Fax: 9580 9103"
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| posted on August 5th, 2009 at 01:54 PM |
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i also go this....
Dear Sir
The minister recently met with representatives from the 4WD community and the after-market motor industry and agreed to delay the start of the new
vehicle modification rules and carry out further consultation with stakeholders.
The NSW Centre for Road Safety has set up a working group of industry and community representatives to come up with the best way of ensuring vehicle
modifications are as safe as possible – without unreasonably impacting people such as yourself.
Your comments were passed on to the working group but if you wish to provide further feedback for consideration, please email it to:
office@daley.minister.nsw.gov.au
Best wishes,
Dan Leavy
Principal Policy Manager, Light Vehicles
Centre for Road Safety
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| posted on August 5th, 2009 at 05:13 PM |
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OK so my car is a fair way before this. I don't understand how they think this is going to stop suspension related accidents. To get an engineers
certificate as the system is the car has to be road worthy. The people getting around with chopped springs and the like aren't getting engineers
certificates as it is so how is this going to change under the new rules? They are punishing the people who have lowered or raised their car the right
way.
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| posted on September 11th, 2009 at 11:41 PM |
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just in case anyone is still interested in reality rather than petty bullshit and slingng sausages up the hall way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xckIbH3zRCk
sign up to contribute to rectifying a real issue.....
http://www.nothoons.com.au/
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| posted on September 12th, 2009 at 01:12 AM |
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Hi
No wonder they fall asleep at parliament. I just posted a response on youtube asking for more emphasis on lowered cars.
Steve
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| posted on September 16th, 2009 at 09:00 PM |
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I reckon its hilarious that these idiots in Government always sign their name with 'Honourable'!
Maybe they should prefix their names with 'I'm a lying beauracratic tool' 
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| posted on September 18th, 2009 at 09:29 AM |
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So does this mean that I have to ask them about the bays self initiated 34 year gradual lowering project? Heh VW sag 
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| posted on March 25th, 2011 at 09:43 PM |
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Vote them out
Tomorrow we get to vote these meddling fools into the world of unemployment!
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| posted on March 27th, 2011 at 09:32 AM |
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BYE BYE
ADIOS
TCHAU
SO LONG!!!!!
Ok lets see what happens now
i want nice roads to drive my slammed oval on,
and leave me alone.
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| posted on March 31st, 2011 at 12:29 AM |
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hmm.. there are already legal lowering limits..
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