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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 11:19 AM



so have you been brain washed with the subie power:crazy::lol::crazy:? And is the only way or would you go back to vee dub power?
Personally I love the sound of vee dub power with twin carbs.




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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 11:21 AM



OMG Steve how old are you what's the go with the lights??
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the one I have has a tacho built in as well, it only goes to 9000, unlike the photo.

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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 01:59 PM



Hi Rose

How old, when I grow up I wanna be a kid:lol:

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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 02:09 PM



His car is going to have sub lights like mine as well :lol:



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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 06:10 PM



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so have you been brain washed with the subie power:crazy::lol::crazy:? And is the only way or would you go back to vee dub power?
Personally I love the sound of vee dub power with twin carbs.


my love of VW motors will never die
hell, ive been building them since i was 15, my brain still ticks over conrod bolt torque values and head tension patterns etc when i try to sleep at night :lol:

but i am truely happy with the end result of the converstion to though. in the next few years another VW will probably join the stable again and stay mecjhanically stock
how else am i supposed to make use of all these parts i got laying around :lol:

i'll get some vids up soon but from inside the car u would swear its just a big VW engine running IDAs
thats exactly what it sounds like


back on topic
it seems i have some territorial marking going on.....

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_03.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_02.jpg


And it aint coming from the engine

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_05.jpg


J'ACCUSE.......... INPUT SHAFT!

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_01-1.jpg


original looking abit raped after removal

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_06.jpg


bore cleaned out ready for new seal

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_07.jpg


OEM german parts all the way baby

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_01.jpg


to tap it home squarely an old axle nut and some of the staino pipe i seem to have an abundance of at the moment

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_09.jpg


new shaft installed with a dab of permatex on the outside and well oiled on the sealing lip with fresh tranny oil

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/subi_conv_08.jpg




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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 06:38 PM



Wheres the timed video of the subi coming out? :smilegrin:



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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 06:44 PM



Hi Joel

I didn't know Exedy made clutches for VWs.

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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 07:02 PM



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I didn't know Exedy made clutches for VWs.

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i got introduced to exedy button clutches a few years back when i was part of the the toyota world when i had the celica and corolla

id always gone the token kennedy in the past but at the time there was a stage1 famine on
couldnt get one anywhere
autobahn had the exedy clutch in overnight
not badly priced either

200mm type1 is the only HD air cooled clutch they do
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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 07:06 PM



Hi Joel

So apart form the colour, how does it rate against a Kennedy?

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posted on October 29th, 2009 at 07:08 PM



gotta love the pink :crazy:

its been a few years since ive had a stage1 but to be honest i dont think theres much difference in it

i was thinking of trying the exedy cushion button next time i get a clutch

just dont like HD clutches that just about dislocate your hip to operate
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posted on October 30th, 2009 at 06:46 PM



love this thread!
you have done a fantastic job joel and i will be using this thread very soon for my next project.




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posted on October 31st, 2009 at 09:00 PM



cheers Bob,
still got that spare from Ray?
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posted on October 31st, 2009 at 11:10 PM



no that went with ray but we do have ash's EJ22 and all the conversion kit she was going to use in her beetle in perth.
now i just need to convince her dad to chuck it all in the back of his landcruser and bring it over at christmas.




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posted on November 1st, 2009 at 03:28 PM



she would have just about forgotten what mildred looks like :lol:

so....
Who ordered the caramel milkshake?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd191/boostedbug/Subaru%20conversion/100_0055.jpg


a direct result of my stupidity, it highlights the importance of the cooling system with these engines
the only weakness with these engines....and there it is :lol:
after i stuck the engine back in the other day from replacing the shaft seal i just poured what coolant i drained back in but was still a bit short
one mainstreamer was parked in and the other was down at byron for the day
so i took the bug down to autobahn to ggrab some more coolant

it didnt seem that low and didnt get hot on the trip but next morning i got 2.5L of cooant into it
since then its still running perfectly fine but ive noticed the overflow fills up more than usual and if its just idling the fan stays on alot longer than normal

just gotta decide now whether i can be arsed pulling it down to do the headgaksets or just swap it for another engine
ill probably just fix this one up as i know the history of it and even with a leaking headgasket its still running like clockwork
i was actually in shock when i found out cos its running to well so it must only be the tinyest leak that opens up when its hot
ive put over 100kms on it and didnt even notice anything was wrong till i saw under the oil cap

ill proabably do the timing belt, waterpump, 'stat and cam seals at the same time
im getting abit sentimentally attached to this engine so id rather stick with the devil i know
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posted on November 1st, 2009 at 10:52 PM



Hi Joel

That's bad luck, they were probably on the way out, the extra heat just tipped them over. You need to fix it, otherwise your going to reluctant to drive it on trip.

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posted on November 1st, 2009 at 11:27 PM



Hi Joel

Iam about to but a EJ22 motor in my super beetle and I was wondering if you could help me answer some questions.

Is the Kafer brace the only thing needed to hold the engine probably in place? ( http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c366/66glook/Floorpan077.jpg  )

How much HP can you run through the original transmission?

What kind of suspension and brakes are you using?

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posted on November 2nd, 2009 at 06:10 AM



Your probably right Steve.
it wont even be run again now till i get it sorted, the only reason it has been is i was blissfully unaware of the problem.
im really not too upset over it, pissed off at myself for letting it happen but its not a hard fix, the headgaskets are something i should have done the in the first place :crazy:
to much of a rush to get it on the road

Hi Bragi, you'll love it
a kafer brace is the only strenghtening required. you could get away without one but the risk of the chassis forks bending or fatigue cracking is there
they're not hard to install and you can really notice the way it strenghtens up the rear of the car

the standard trans will take the power of a stock EJ22 if your not permanantly driving like a race car
its a bit of a piece of string question you can damage a tranny with a stock vw engine if your rough enough or driven fairly sensibly would last even with an ej20turbo

at present im running 4 wheel discs which were on the car before the conversion
bigger rear torsion bars are a good idea but that said im not running them, now that ive raised the back up a bit its riding perfectly fine

an EJ22 is only putting out about 20 or so more HP than most 1916 vw engines people put in and very few of them bother upgrading transmissions or brakes
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posted on November 2nd, 2009 at 08:18 AM



change the oil and just chuck some chem weld in the radiator.
isn't it great to go water cooled:crazy:




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posted on November 2nd, 2009 at 08:32 AM



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change the oil and just chuck some chem weld in the radiator.
isn't it great to go water cooled:crazy:


Don't use "mechanic in a bottle" tsk, tsk :crazy:

Do it properly, it's not difficult, just a PITA as you'll have to pull the motor.
Don't forget you'll need inlet & exhaust gaskets too
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posted on November 2nd, 2009 at 01:11 PM



Nice work Joel, this has really come around mate. Been seeing it grow since day one of this thread :tu:

hmm... vrs sets sounds like a bit of effort. It will run like a dream after...

The liquid glass (with hte copper flake) Chemiweld i think its called, is a good permanent fix. They even recommend for new engines to seal any factory pin holes. And it works. I was a bit 'reluctant' as i was worried about coating everything and making a mess inside the block. But it only 'collagulates' where the loss of pressure is, so it doesn't deposit everywhere. It simply seals the leak after driving 30 mins minium. Then you drain water, flush, fill with fresh coolant.

If i remember right though, I been told thta when the leaks in the oil you can't use the chemiweld stuff. Can't confirm though... but i would imagine it ain't healthy.

You'd konw more about this than me anyways with your watercooled background. I'm just going from the experience on my celica 2 months ago :P, and took an old mechanics advice (friend of mine) when i was having head gasket issues. its since been sealed, regardless of the torment i put my car through.




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posted on November 2nd, 2009 at 03:08 PM



cheers Chris
im just hoping the thread helps people that are in the situation i was facing 9 months ago, considering the conversion but not sure of exactly whats involved


its under $100 for a pair of genuine head gaskets
im not a fan of temporary fixes plus its a good excuse to give the top end a freshen up
my old boss will skim the heads for me if they need it which i highly doubt but you never know
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posted on November 2nd, 2009 at 03:52 PM



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posted on November 2nd, 2009 at 05:50 PM



trouble with shaving the head is it raises the compression if a stock gasket is used which works against me as im still kicking ideas around about force feeding this thing
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posted on November 2nd, 2009 at 07:20 PM



My mate blew head gaskets the other night in a commodore stationwagon, i laughed at himcause i was doing the same thing in my bug and was fine, now he has no car. And once the mechanics done will have no money.
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posted on November 4th, 2009 at 05:25 PM



hmmm Déjà Vu.....

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in and out more times than a honeymooners co........:lol:
pooor bug must feel like a $2 hooker

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posted on November 4th, 2009 at 05:30 PM



good now that you have that milk shake making motor out. whack a EJ20T in and stop stuffing around,
Ino you want to.:crazy:




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posted on November 4th, 2009 at 05:41 PM



u gonna find me a gearbox that wont break?
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posted on November 4th, 2009 at 08:10 PM



joel ej20t has nice stainless steel head gaskets not cardboard ones:)
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posted on November 4th, 2009 at 09:02 PM



dont you start being a bad influence as well :crazy:

im happy with the EJ22, gets me shit from both sides
from the vws guys cos its not a vw and from the subi guys cos its not turbo :lol:
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posted on November 5th, 2009 at 07:02 AM



brrrrrrmmmmm pitchooooo:lol:
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