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 Bug_racer
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| posted on March 5th, 2010 at 10:19 PM |
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We all know that alot of these cars, if they were taken to the RTA (NSW) would have no chance of passing an inspection, ande the engineer who passed
it would lose his lisence, I mean no offence to any out there, even I can go down to habiby's work shop and get a pink slip. Personly I couldn't
give a shit, but don't kid yourselves, even if you have an after market steering wheel you can be defected.
This debate could go on for ever.
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I also heard someone got defected for not having enough washer fluid in the bottle .
You could get defected for anything . Lights not set correctly , there has even been some Golf owners with R32's that have been defected for noise .
What the gene berg trophy was about was building a tough street car . Not putting plates on a race car .
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| posted on March 6th, 2010 at 09:29 AM |
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Wayne your turbo beetle is an awesome vehicle and a credit to you.
Bug racer, when someone has had everything complianced during the build then it is a registered, air cooled, fast and therefor ticks the boxes.
When debate about classes lessens peoples desire to build a fast car and run it, then I think that is a real stuff up. My 2c. It is about racing and
enjoying it, and appreciating what other people have achieved also. 
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| posted on March 6th, 2010 at 09:57 AM |
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Wayne your turbo beetle is an awesome vehicle and a credit to you.
Bug racer, when someone has had everything complianced during the build then it is a registered, air cooled, fast and therefor ticks the boxes.
When debate about classes lessens peoples desire to build a fast car and run it, then I think that is a real stuff up. My 2c. It is about racing and
enjoying it, and appreciating what other people have achieved also.
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I agree.
Wayne was obviously jipped when it comes to the Berg Trophy, I know of another that won it and never was oficially recognised way back....so don't
put so much weight on it guy's....maybe after all this washes out, a new street car trophy can be developed. After sorting some rules of
course......maybe there is no end to this.......
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| posted on March 6th, 2010 at 10:33 AM |
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I've had fairly major surgery recently and that wasn't as painfull as reading this thread from start to finish!Probably only 10 posts max that have
any merit!I'm going out side to work on my bug!
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| posted on March 6th, 2010 at 11:12 AM |
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Cole !! my mate !! thats the best comment I have ever read of yours .
I'm all done .
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| posted on March 6th, 2010 at 03:06 PM |
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I'm gone too. 
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| posted on March 6th, 2010 at 05:09 PM |
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What is the fastest street registered vw ?
Mine is
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| posted on March 6th, 2010 at 09:46 PM |
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Mine is
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I agree .
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really nice time Nick and definately faster than mine by 0.05secs ... but mine was on STREET TYRES and I drove down the street to check the mail on
the Monday morning and filled it up with 98ULP ....
A TRUE STREET BEETLE !! with carpets , glass , rubbers , headlining , rear venetians ,and all lights and wipers working , including the semaphores
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this beetle is a real pleasure to drive on the street......
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| posted on March 8th, 2010 at 05:35 PM |
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this beetle is a real pleasure to drive on the street......
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Just don't try and take a photo through the front window when he decides to sidestep the clutch at 5000! You end up in the back!
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| posted on March 8th, 2010 at 08:48 PM |
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WOW
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| posted on March 8th, 2010 at 08:57 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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really nice time Nick and definately faster than mine by 0.05secs ... but mine was on STREET TYRES and I drove down the street to check the mail on
the Monday morning and filled it up with 98ULP ....
A TRUE STREET BEETLE !! with carpets , glass , rubbers , headlining , rear venetians ,and all lights and wipers working , including the semaphores
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this beetle is a real pleasure to drive on the street......
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Thanks Wayne for admitting my car is quicker, and it was only a 2233cc engine!!!
You surprise me though Wayne, seeing as I am the reason you car went quick. Have you forgotten that you were struggling with the tune up and was
looking at the colour of tail pipe richening it up. But because you were on C16 I told you that I would lean it off and that you were misreading the
C16. Then you elected to listen to me and went your fastest pass the very next run.
Those street tyres you have are not radials, they are slicks with grooves in them, not much difference.
Mine also has full glass working window, lights, indicators, roof liner, carpets, alternator and belt on, steel panels but mine is an animal on the
street.
I never once claimed it was a daily driver but the topic it Fastest Street Registered
Air Cooled VW. I don't understand why you went there Wayne seeing as I have never said a bad word about you or your car and thought you were above
this.
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| posted on March 8th, 2010 at 09:06 PM |
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Nick walk softly and carry a big stick let all this other crap float on by!
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| posted on March 8th, 2010 at 09:11 PM |
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CONGRATS Nick....great results 
C16....can you buy that at a 'street' petrol pump when you get the mail ??!!!!!
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| posted on March 8th, 2010 at 09:36 PM |
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Why I wonder can some people have class and others forget so quickly....hmmmm a true street car ....yep I like.
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| posted on March 9th, 2010 at 07:58 PM |
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Once again "WOW""
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| posted on March 9th, 2010 at 11:27 PM |
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Holy. Crap.
I posted this question eight years ago and its still an active thread, and still causing arguments around the place. I almost feel guilty !
Amazing how things have come along in the Aus scene in the last five years since I have been active on this forum, just incredible.
Please keep building awesome cars, running fast, safe times and most of all enjoying your dak dak above all else.
Peace out.
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| posted on March 11th, 2010 at 07:13 AM |
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it would have to be CT's vw
he drove it to portland and warwick several times.
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| posted on March 11th, 2010 at 08:36 PM |
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it would have to be CT's vw
he drove it to portland and warwick several times.
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What times is he running ?
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| posted on March 11th, 2010 at 09:16 PM |
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posted by type3vw
a good street car class should combine both air cooled
and water cooled vws to compete, as long as cars are
registered and roadworthy. and if its a bug it should have
a type one engine, if its a kombi have the right type of
engine that came with that model kombi. and if its golf
passat etc. it should have the right engine that came
with that model car. i love the air cooled vws personally
but would like to see a tuff street vw class that
comprises air cooled and water cooled vws together.
but roadworthiness will be hard. engine lids must be on,
no full fibreglass front . fibreglass guards shouldnt
matter they are not that much lighter then steel.
no stingers. full cooling system should be on.
no exposed front mount coolers.
no turbos hanging out of the bonnet or bootlid.
only plumbed back wastegates.
but there is always loop holes in all rules.
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That probably sums up what Id like , fibreglass guards dont bother me , same with interior . Basically whatever you can pull off the car in an hour to
race it should be legit .
Wayne and Nick . Your cars are so so close to each other in terms of time that the difference between who is fastest could even be as simple as who
goes to the toilet before the run and who goes after ! There is like not even a bumper difference between the cars !! Two definately unique cars ! Two
very talented builders , and Id love to see you race side by side 
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| posted on March 12th, 2010 at 06:18 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Bug_racer
| Quote: | Originally
posted by type3vw
a good street car class should combine both air cooled
and water cooled vws to compete, as long as cars are
registered and roadworthy. and if its a bug it should have
a type one engine, if its a kombi have the right type of
engine that came with that model kombi. and if its golf
passat etc. it should have the right engine that came
with that model car. i love the air cooled vws personally
but would like to see a tuff street vw class that
comprises air cooled and water cooled vws together.
but roadworthiness will be hard. engine lids must be on,
no full fibreglass front . fibreglass guards shouldnt
matter they are not that much lighter then steel.
no stingers. full cooling system should be on.
no exposed front mount coolers.
no turbos hanging out of the bonnet or bootlid.
only plumbed back wastegates.
but there is always loop holes in all rules.
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That probably sums up what Id like , fibreglass guards dont bother me , same with interior . Basically whatever you can pull off the car in an hour to
race it should be legit .
Wayne and Nick . Your cars are so so close to each other in terms of time that the difference between who is fastest could even be as simple as who
goes to the toilet before the run and who goes after ! There is like not even a bumper difference between the cars !! Two definately unique cars ! Two
very talented builders , and Id love to see you race side by side
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I guess Troy's Type 3 would fit into the rules listed above.
full interior,bumpers, lights,wipers, all steel, engien lid is on and turbo is plumbed back!!
what to remove in a hour though.......
Can't wait for the next trip to the dyno though!! Should be interesting......
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| posted on March 12th, 2010 at 07:03 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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it would have to be CT's vw
he drove it to portland and warwick several times.
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What times is he running ?
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i think his runnung 9s on th 1/8 and its a 1916
but i think his the only vw that is realy a streeter, driven all the time
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| posted on March 12th, 2010 at 08:23 AM |
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but i thinks his the only vw that is realy a streeter, driven all the time
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And Crazy Col's, a 2332 IDA running 8.3's 1/8 and 13.0 1/4's and daily on the street, drives to Warwick and Wiillowbank when competing.
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but i thinks his the only vw that is realy a streeter, driven all the time
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And Crazy Col's, a 2332 IDA running 8.3's 1/8 and 13.0 1/4's and daily on the street, drives to Warwick and Wiillowbank when competing.
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Thanks for thinking of me matty,I've got a 8.20 time card some where,And loco 66 and me had another 13.0 100+mph daily driver bug
racer wouldn't like it tho! 1600 to4 just a dump pipe no muffler as such but a turbo is a muffling device according to mechanial engineers,45mm side
draught hanginging out the boot lid!Home made nitrous kit dunlop g grids 130 octane high lead pump gas(Got it from the same pump they used to fill up
the hawker sea fury ww2 fighter)Like all the cars me and luke have had they were are daily drivers,most people wouldn't say they are streeters but we
never saw any faster true daily drivers.These cars were never built with the goal of australias fastest vw street car they were built to make myself
and lukey smile,and i'm still smiling now thinking about making our own nitrous kit for lukes "SHIT FIGHTER"and some of our other adventures,thats
what its all about mates having fun thrashing to make races days with out sleep borrowing parts doing what you have to do to race!
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so Cole you've done a flat 13.00 ?
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13.04 at 100mph in the "SHITFIGHTER",and 13.07 at 104 in "FRUIT LOOP".
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Cool....you should add your timeslip in the 1/4 mile times, I'm surprised you haven't already done that !
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my car ran a 12.1 before it's last incantation on street rego.with street tyres on the rear.but wasn't steel bodied,but it was only driven 5k's to
and from work.
i class a street car differently to others though.nicks is still a street car to me.it depends on what your interpretation of street car.
this post was a massive dickpulling comp if you ask me.
as long as they are quick,and driven with rego who cares.
arron's kombi rocks it up.
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down sharon.
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Just bumping this up after near 2 years since last post . Watercooled cars are now easily being made to run 12 second passes with many into the 11
second zone all daily driven .
Its going to be harder to judge with air-cooled cars as who is a true street car given not many people still daily air-cooled cars and most are towed
to and from events .
The Gene Berg trophy for air-cooled cars is well and truly outdated now in the 21 Century although there should be an equivalent for water-cooled cars
as more and more get built .
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