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 EnPassant
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| posted on April 26th, 2013 at 04:00 PM |
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1995 T5 stalls when coming to a halt
Is anyone familiar with this problem?
My 1995 T5 Transporter often stalls as I come to a halt at intersections etc. It seems to happen more when the engine is hot. Going down through the
gears to keep the revs up seems to help but not always. Work done so far to try to isolate the problem includes:- New spark plugs, Checked for air
leaks, throttle body cleaned, PCV removed and idle air mixture valve cleaned, rotor button and cap cleaned, basic idle setting carried out.
The engine stalls while the van is in gear and the clutch pedal depressed.
I am wondering if anyone knows if this is a known problem with this model. I hope someone can help as I live in a country town without VW diagnostic
equipment.
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| posted on April 26th, 2013 at 06:49 PM |
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95 is a T4 not a T5.
Pull out the relay above the fuse panel that has "30" on it. Check for broken solder joints
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 10:53 AM |
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Thanks. I'll try that and let you know the result.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 11:19 AM |
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Check your throttle position switch on the throttle body.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 11:59 AM |
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Check your throttle position switch on the throttle body.
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Thanks. Will do.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 12:04 PM |
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95 is a T4 not a T5.
Pull out the relay above the fuse panel that has "30" on it. Check for broken solder joints
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I looked at the relay but it looks as if it needs a special tool to get into it. I considered prising it open with a small screwdriver but decided
against it in case I caused damage and stranded myself. (I'm a complete novice and live 20km's from town).
Re. T4 or T5 - - The van was advertised as a T5 when I bought it two years ago and I had never questioned it. On looking for some identification
evidence, both on the van (where the handbook says it should be) and in the documentation, I can find nothing that says either T4 or T5.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 02:51 PM |
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That year identifies it as aT4,
google search T4 & look at the images to check,
if your headlights are reasonably straight across , it's called a " short nose"
If they are angled slightly from inner edge to outer edge, it's known as along nose,
T5 are another kettle of fish !
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 03:37 PM |
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That year identifies it as aT4,
google search T4 & look at the images to check,
if your headlights are reasonably straight across , it's called a " short nose"
If they are angled slightly from inner edge to outer edge, it's known as along nose,
T5 are another kettle of fish !
Good luck with sorting your problem
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Cheers! Turns out I'm driving a shortnose T4.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 03:42 PM |
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Its easy to pop the cover off the relay with a small screw driver
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 03:45 PM |
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Yeah they are the ones I've seen the most of here,
I have just got myself a 97 dual cab with the sliding rear windows, very soon to be on the road as my daily / work vehicle,
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 04:02 PM |
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30 relay is just a normal power relay, should be changed every 100 000km. Can make a HUGE difference
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 04:33 PM |
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30 relay is just a normal power relay, should be changed every 100 000km. Can make a HUGE difference
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Hi. As you have probably realised, I am a complete novice. What does the 30 relay actually do? - I have managed to take the cover off it and it seems
to be in good order.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 05:45 PM |
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No 30 Relay powers up the ECU. When the solder joints crack, it turns the power off to the ECU like you've turned the key off. It doesn't store a
fault code, because it thinks you've turned the key off.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 05:47 PM |
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It's a power supply relay to the computer amongst other things I believe. A good quality relay under $20
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 06:14 PM |
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No 30 Relay powers up the ECU. When the solder joints crack, it turns the power off to the ECU like you've turned the key off. It doesn't store a
fault code, because it thinks you've turned the key off.
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Thanks for the feedback. I can see now that the 30 relay might be the cause of the problem.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 06:16 PM |
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It's a power supply relay to the computer amongst other things I believe. A good quality relay under $20
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Thanks. The 30 relay sounds like the next posibility to explore.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 06:21 PM |
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If it was the ECU relay I think that you would have more problems than stalling.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 07:16 PM |
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I've had a rough idle fixed by replacing it.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 08:35 PM |
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I've had a rough idle fixed by replacing it.
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I can't really understand that one.
It either works or not. It's just a switch.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 09:13 PM |
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Not really, I believe it's about clean power, as the points get pitted/higher resistance it somehow effects the computer. I am not sure why either,
but it gave me customer for life, they hd been to VW nd about 6 other specialists and putting up with a rough idle and very poor running at light
cruise for 7 years.
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| posted on April 28th, 2013 at 10:09 PM |
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so it sounds like a petrol T4 yeah
so erm put in for a service at a reputable VW service place.. 
they should sort your woes
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| posted on April 29th, 2013 at 08:10 AM |
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so it sounds like a petrol T4 yeah
so erm put in for a service at a reputable VW service place..
they should sort your woes
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I travelled 111 km's to the nearest VW service place having informed them of the age of the vehicle when making the booking. I was only told when I
came to collect the van that they only had diagnostic equipment for recent models and not for the t4. I was charged $644 and the problem was not
fixed.
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^ that's a familiar story, unfortunatly
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| Quote: | I travelled 111
km's to the nearest VW service place having informed them of the age of the vehicle when making the booking. I was only told when I came to collect
the van that they only had diagnostic equipment for recent models and not for the t4. I was charged $644 and the problem was not fixed.
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you no fix.............me no pay
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I travelled 111 km's to the nearest VW service place having informed them of the age of the vehicle when making the booking. I was only told when I
came to collect the van that they only had diagnostic equipment for recent models and not for the t4. I was charged $644 and the problem was not
fixed.
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you no fix.............me no pay
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Unfortunately I would have had to stay another day away from home with all the attendant costs and inconvenience... and no guarantee that the problem
would be fixed. I signed a form on booking the car in which I suspect said that the van would not be released without the bill being paid first.
Anyway after I had hung around all day, all I wanted to do was to get home!
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I have sourced and ordered the 30 relay. Will update when I know if it has had the desired effect.
Also while looking under the bonnet to get part numbers for other components I noteced that there is a double aperture in the ring gear housing. The
two circular 'holes' are recessed as if they should perhaps have something like a double rubber cap to seal them from dust and grit. At the moment
they are open. Anyone know if they should be covered and if so what the part is called?
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Yep there's a rubber plug for it. It's taken out to check the timing mark on the flywheel
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| posted on May 3rd, 2013 at 11:20 AM |
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Yep there's a rubber plug for it. It's taken out to check the timing mark on the flywheel
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Thanks. Any idea what its called so that I can search for one? I live on a dirt road and grit is likely to get in there
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally
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I travelled 111 km's to the nearest VW service place having informed them of the age of the vehicle when making the booking. I was only told when I
came to collect the van that they only had diagnostic equipment for recent models and not for the t4. I was charged $644 and the problem was not
fixed.
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you no fix.............me no pay
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Unfortunately I would have had to stay another day away from home with all the attendant costs and inconvenience... and no guarantee that the problem
would be fixed. I signed a form on booking the car in which I suspect said that the van would not be released without the bill being paid first.
Anyway after I had hung around all day, all I wanted to do was to get home!
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erm if you have paid for something and it hasn't been fixed take it back and get them to fix it..?
if u forked out $644 for nothing well that doesn't add up..
surely they must have done some work that you agreed to yeah..?
which vw service place is it?
send them an email n get something done about it.. wtf
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Yep there's a rubber plug for it. It's taken out to check the timing mark on the flywheel
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Thanks. Any idea what its called so that I can search for one? I live on a dirt road and grit is likely to get in there
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VW just call it a plug.
Should be 02A301115A
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