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| posted on May 4th, 2013 at 11:12 AM |
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WTB : NSW: Camber Control Arm or Rear Sway Bar
I am after a camber control arm or rear sway bar to suit a swing axle type beetle
Newcastle Area
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| posted on May 4th, 2013 at 12:39 PM |
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Be carefull fitting a sway bar to a swing axle rear end, the bar actually promotes rear wheel tuck, a camber compensator is made for a swing axel rear
end
http://www.piersideparts.net/MB9615.html
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| posted on May 4th, 2013 at 05:21 PM |
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Rod Penrose has some going cheap at the moment!! Get in contact with greg mackey(happydaze). He is a wizz on swing axel tuning. had the pleasure of
seeing his setup recently. He should be able to point you in the right direction!!!
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| posted on May 4th, 2013 at 05:30 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by vwo60
Be carefull fitting a sway bar to a swing axle rear end, the bar actually promotes rear wheel tuck, a camber compensator is made for a swing axel rear
end
http://www.piersideparts.net/MB9615.html
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cheers that clears that up in my mind
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| posted on May 4th, 2013 at 05:32 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by whathaveidone
Rod Penrose has some going cheap at the moment!! Get in contact with greg mackey(happydaze). He is a wizz on swing axel tuning. had the pleasure of
seeing his setup recently. He should be able to point you in the right direction!!!
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is that the camber compensator he has going cheap ?
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| posted on May 4th, 2013 at 07:40 PM |
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Fitting a 'camber compensator', without re-setting the rear torsion bars would be a waste of time.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on May 5th, 2013 at 01:19 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by HappyDaze
Fitting a 'camber compensator', without re-setting the rear torsion bars would be a waste of time.
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cheers for the tip
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| posted on May 5th, 2013 at 01:26 PM |
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Wayne races a swing axle rear with a sway bar to success and I have also driven one as well and that are fine. Off the shelf camber compensators suck
unless you build a mackie one, but more work then just bolting up a sway bar...my 2c
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| posted on May 5th, 2013 at 04:01 PM |
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I had sway bar on a swng axel car for about twenty minutes, took it off after a big dose of oversteer when the rear axels tucked mid corner, as for
the available camber compensators, i have run these for years on both of my swing axel cars wiith out the sudden death oversteer that a sway bar
promotes. Have a think how a sway bar operates, most manufacturers do not recommend fitting them.
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| posted on May 5th, 2013 at 07:53 PM |
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There is a bit more to improving the swing-axle suspension than just 'whacking on' a compensating spring, or anti-roll bar.
If a lot of power is involved, lack of traction could be a problem with an anti-roll bar. A limited-slip diff. would probably be needed.
After a bit of work on the rear suspension, understeer could rear its ugly head. Then you can work on the front end.......and so on.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on May 6th, 2013 at 11:02 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by HappyDaze
There is a bit more to improving the swing-axle suspension than just 'whacking on' a compensating spring, or anti-roll bar.
If a lot of power is involved, lack of traction could be a problem with an anti-roll bar. A limited-slip diff. would probably be needed.
After a bit of work on the rear suspension, understeer could rear its ugly head. Then you can work on the front end.......and so on.
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i found a good article on aircooled that talked about similar facets of swing arm suspention
http://www.aircooled.net/vw-handling-suspension-tuning/
i have konis on there atm it seemed to wriggle around a bit once i got up to 60 mph havent gone much past that atm ...
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| posted on May 6th, 2013 at 12:36 PM |
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You can have a four wheel alignment, check the castor while you are at it as it might need a bit more to improve the straight line stability
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