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 jamiesc
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 08:00 AM |
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need advice on the flying flea
Im just about to kick of my resto on the flying flea and start stripping it back and just wanting to find out would everyone that know the car would
you like it to remain the same colour cause everyone has said to me leave it the same colour cause it is so well known in the vw scene but i will be
redoing the interior and all new driveline
Any help appreciated
Cheers jamie
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 08:10 AM |
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If you want to maintain it's 'Flying Flea' provenance (history) , I'd definately leave the colour and be very careful what I did.
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 08:27 AM |
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Does it still have the cut out under the rear window vents? From the engine bay up under the rear window?
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 08:39 AM |
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Yeah thats what ive been thinking matt and what do you mean by be careful by what you did?
And what do you mean lohoon?
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 09:15 AM |
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I'm with Matt... avoid changing anything that marked it as the Flying Flea.
Things like rims, colour, interior/cage and obviously any body mods.
Of course it's your car tho so do what you want, but yeah - you did ask for opinions.
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 11:17 AM |
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I want to leave it the same colour i may chanve the rims thats the last thing ill decide and the roll cage i am going to put a better one in it and i
have 94 mm pistons 82 mm stroker crank straight cut cam gears and new cam and still more to come hehe
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 11:23 AM |
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there's not much 'flea' left in it, so paint it what ever colour you like........there's no point restoring/rebuilding a car if you're not going
to be 100% happy at the end of it.
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 01:27 PM |
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Ive been told that by andrew seymour and ill still be happy with it at the end if i was to leave it the same colour if i was to change it i was going
to do it candy apple red but i just want to get stuck into it cause i miss driving it
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 01:50 PM |
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Hi
I'm pretty sure that's the same car a few friends of mine owned in Sydney way before it was the a drag car.
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 02:21 PM |
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What ive heard it was a chook pen up untill mike spikat sorry about the spelling took owner ship and had a 1916 methanol injected engine in it then
peter richards owned it and had a 2275 methanol injected engine both of them set the record seperated times for being the quickest four cylinder back
in 1980 and 1981 then i think andrew seymour vwma photographer he had to sell it to finance his wedding and after that a man in sunny bank
sounds like he took all the goodies out of the flea when he owned it
Then my dad brought it of back in 2005 and
And when my dad owned it was the vw of his dreams and put a bigger engine in it and when he was running it in he broke a axle clean in half. Then put
new carpet and seats in it and went through four gearboxes in it over 5,6 years and he decided to sell it and i had a current car with the same asking
price and he offerd me it for swaps i didnt even have time to thing about it befor i decided hell yes its and oval . 
Sorry about any spelling stuff ups as im using my annoying phone lol
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 02:55 PM |
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Hi
I will check with Henry, but I think its the same car. I will check with him before I make a lot statements that maybe about the the wrong car,
nothing bad mind you.
When Henry had owned the car it was black with orange windows, it looked hot, why not go further back in its roots to then?
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 03:29 PM |
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Sorry it is henry spicak do you have any pics of it from back then?
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 03:36 PM |
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I have the injection and cam.......if that helps !
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 03:46 PM |
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I can remember it from the early 90s when it used to be on the ads for one of the VW performance places either Jeff or Stans.
Had 5 lug centerlines back then.
I vaguely remember it even being in one of the mid 90s mags after it was turned into a street bug.
Volkswagen Australia I think.
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 08:27 PM |
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I have a magazine with it being centrefold beside old planes and would you sell the injection craig?
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 10:34 PM |
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The injection isn't really suited for the street........so its probably not worth you buying it.
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| posted on August 1st, 2013 at 11:14 PM |
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I remember when Peter Richards had it had a piece of the metal removed out of the engine bay, when I asked about it I was told it was to fit a
supercharger? If you looked into the vents beneath the rear window you could see the engine. If you have any questions why not ring mr Richards?
He's a good talker.
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| posted on August 2nd, 2013 at 07:51 AM |
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Aww now im with you yes it does have the metal removed thanks for that lohoon
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| posted on August 2nd, 2013 at 07:54 AM |
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Pic from when peter richards owned it
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| posted on August 2nd, 2013 at 08:07 PM |
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I was hoping that Peter Richards would chime in on its history after I sold it but I'll give you a shortened history from it's beginning
It was originally built in 1980 by the Perrott Brothers and myself from a oval shell that the Perrott Brothers had sitting in their backyard. All the
paintwork, interior and signwriting (cut out of contact paper) was done by Noel and Fred Perrott. The floorpan and driveline was the the one I had
under my (yellow) oval street car I drag raced sucessfully in 1979 - it just needed a freshen-up
The (Porsche Guards Red) oval was built to run in the D/MP class of Drag Racing
It's first run was at Adelaide Raceway for the 1980 Drag Racing Nationals. The wiring for the car was completed at an Adelaide motel while the car
was still on the trailer (talk about cutting it fine!!)
The engine was a home built 74mmx92mm using a welded crank, home ported heads and my current 2" IDA Webers
It was a good combination as it ran under the National Record for D/MP on it's first pass!!!
The car was sucessful in 1980 setting the speed and E/T ANDRA National Record for D/MP as well as winning the 1980 Australian Drag Racer Grand Finals
as well as a few Castlereagh meetings.
The following year, D/MP became a V8 only class, so to stay in Drag Racing, I aquired a supercharger, used the 1835 out of my 1978 Drag Racing Karmann
Ghia and ran DD/G. There are some photos on the forum of the supercharger set up posted by Dave Butler - hence the hole under the back window, it was
to fit the McGee 2 port Fuel Injection System
The class was too tough as the car didnt't have the performance to be competetive against the blown 6 cylinders at the time so It was sold off to
Peter.
If you need to know more, just ask - H
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was sold to Barry Warn. It has attended Valla a couple of times , now on the street, black with a whale tail and Aunger kidney slot mags
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| posted on August 2nd, 2013 at 08:25 PM |
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Heres the McGee stuff I have from it.
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| posted on August 2nd, 2013 at 08:35 PM |
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Hi Craig, that's the system Peter had on it after i sold it. (It may have come off the original Flying Flea) It was something I could see Stan toying
with though
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| posted on August 2nd, 2013 at 10:02 PM |
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Cheers Henry. I ended up getting the Injection off John Spink, who bought the motor off Peter in the mid 90's for his sports sedan. The motor
unfortunately didn't last long, but he kept the injection and the heads for a rainy day...............it just so happened he went "subie" power and
I ended up with the parts !
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| posted on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:30 PM |
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Craig i love those injectors would you sell them by any chance?
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| posted on August 3rd, 2013 at 11:45 AM |
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maybe...
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| posted on August 3rd, 2013 at 02:06 PM |
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Haha but you still want them thats fine man
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| posted on August 3rd, 2013 at 08:52 PM |
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Just talking with Andrew Seymour and because he isn't on the forum he wanted me to pass on this message to you...
"Just to do your own repairs and modifications as necessary and as per personal taste, but you just can not change history. That car spent 15
years as a chicken hutch before spending 10 years as a drag car then I put it back on the road and did over 400,000 km over the next 10 years in it,
That cant be deleted."
Andrew very much has a soft spot for it, and i think if you ever sold it he would be so tempted to own it again.
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| posted on August 4th, 2013 at 08:53 AM |
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Yeah i remember him saying that if i was restore it leave the paint i think i may leave it the same colour thanks for that miss vdub
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| posted on August 4th, 2013 at 12:34 PM |
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posted by MISS VDUB
Just talking with Andrew Seymour and because he isn't on the forum he wanted me to pass on this message to you...
"That car spent 15 years as a chicken hutch.".
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Unfortunately, I don't know where the "chicken hutch" idea came into being.
At the beginning of its drag car career, the body shell was just one of those "I'll get around to it" deals that was sitting under cover in the
Perrott Brothers' backyard.
I apologise if I have taken some of the "colour" from the car's heritage - Henry
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| posted on August 4th, 2013 at 01:19 PM |
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that will ruffle a few feathers 
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