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 Old Hutcho
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 07:41 PM |
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Anybody heard anything?
One of the very senior traffic guys where I work has been asked for comments on concessional registration issues in NSW. (Only NSW not other states)
the NSW Govt is apparently looking at this and MAY be looking at some sort of crackdown. He tells me that two of the concepts (among others) are to
be eligible for concessional registration the power limit of the engine be no higher than 10% above the standard engine fitted to that car when it was
new. The second is to not allow different PCD and wheel offsets than standard or what was available AT THE DATE OF MANUFACTURE. Anybody else hearing
this?
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 08:34 PM |
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nope
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 09:38 PM |
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 10:13 PM |
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Does NSW have a "concessional registration" now??
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 10:56 PM |
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If the car can get an engineers report, it should get Club permit. It should be engineered and legal. The NCOP and VSB14 should have set some national
rules. We are a country of 23 million population, why do we have stupid state rules? Surely we can have a national legislation in regards to
modifications?
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 07:34 AM |
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to be eligible for concessional registration the power limit of the engine be no higher than 10% above the standard engine fitted to that car when it
was new.
The second is to not allow different PCD and wheel offsets than standard or what was available AT THE DATE OF MANUFACTURE.
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these have always been part of the rules its up to each club to run them
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 08:04 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
If the car can get an engineers report, it should get Club permit. It should be engineered and legal. The NCOP and VSB14 should have set some national
rules. We are a country of 23 million population, why do we have stupid state rules? Surely we can have a national legislation in regards to
modifications?
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i believe the rest of the states want nsw to reduce their standard and they wont budge, been like this for almost 10 years now.
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Old Hutcho
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 08:36 AM |
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Bizarre, yes we do have a concessional registration, more commonly known as historic rego.
Helbus.
I understand what you are saying, but any vehicle which is modified may be grouped into another class and kind, e.g: modified vehicles, which will
have to meet a whole nother bunch of rules. The spirit and intent of concessional rego, or historic rego as it is more commonly called, is to allow
old vehicles to be driven on the road to maintain and preserve the historic value of the vehicle. My informant tells me this morning that the RMS,
after a heap of complaints by the HWP is looking again at the confusing set of rules which pertain to historic cars. The HWP (presumably) want the
rules made more simple so they can better enforce them. Not too many HWP people know the engine capacity or horsepower of a 1954 oval for example and
if the driver says its a hot 36 hp then how are they to know.
VW54
At the Nationals for there were a heap of cars with engines well over 2 litres, fuel injected, turboed etc. Different clubs it seems translate the
rules in their own way. The question which follows then is, "Whose version is correct."?
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Old Hutcho
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 09:37 AM |
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Haven't heard anything.......but then, I'm almost deaf.
The big problem with these 'concessional' schemes is when they are abused by a few idiots. If there are no injuries or fatalities for 'the press'
to latch onto, all should be fine.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 10:54 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by barls
| Quote: | Originally
posted by helbus
If the car can get an engineers report, it should get Club permit. It should be engineered and legal. The NCOP and VSB14 should have set some national
rules. We are a country of 23 million population, why do we have stupid state rules? Surely we can have a national legislation in regards to
modifications?
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i believe the rest of the states want nsw to reduce their standard and they wont budge, been like this for almost 10 years now.
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I noticed this.
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 10:59 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Old Hutcho
Bizarre, yes we do have a concessional registration, more commonly known as historic rego.
Helbus.
I understand what you are saying, but any vehicle which is modified may be grouped into another class and kind, e.g: modified vehicles, which will
have to meet a whole nother bunch of rules. The spirit and intent of concessional rego, or historic rego as it is more commonly called, is to allow
old vehicles to be driven on the road to maintain and preserve the historic value of the vehicle. My informant tells me this morning that the RMS,
after a heap of complaints by the HWP is looking again at the confusing set of rules which pertain to historic cars. The HWP (presumably) want the
rules made more simple so they can better enforce them. Not too many HWP people know the engine capacity or horsepower of a 1954 oval for example and
if the driver says its a hot 36 hp then how are they to know.
VW54
At the Nationals for there were a heap of cars with engines well over 2 litres, fuel injected, turboed etc. Different clubs it seems translate the
rules in their own way. The question which follows then is, "Whose version is correct."?
regards
Old Hutcho
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isn't there 2 classes? classic and heritage?
my understating is heritage has to be spot on all factory stock, classic seems to be what every you want as long as its legal and engineered and 25 or
older vehicle. I have been told this and it agrees with what I see in car clubs including the one I am in.
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 11:38 AM |
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Vlad, we are talking about NSW only. 2 x classes, vintage and veteran.
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 11:40 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Old Hutcho
Vlad, we are talking about NSW only. 2 x classes, vintage and veteran.
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Old Hutcho
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oh right "NSW" keep forgetting that have their own "special" rules.
lol
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| posted on September 6th, 2013 at 06:04 PM |
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Vehicles must be as close to original condition as possible, with NO alterations except for safety features.
Cut and pasted from the NSW conditional rego for historic vehicles brochure.
For street rods..
• has a body and frame that were built before 1949, or,
• is a replica of a vehicle the body and frame of which
were built before 1949.
But you have to go through an Aus street rod federation affiliated club. I guess any VW beetle is technically a replica of a pre 49 model??
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