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 aussie260z
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| posted on September 12th, 2013 at 10:37 PM |
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Camber
Curious as to what amount of Camber folks are running on the rear wheels and what the ride is like.
I am running 1deg of neg camber on the rear wheels and the ride is extremely bouncy.
Only seem to get a decent ride when I jack up the rear of the car so I end up with Positive Camber - I am running urethane bushes.
Good to hear others experiences.
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| posted on September 12th, 2013 at 10:53 PM |
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I don't think camber has anything to do with how bouncy it is, something maybe binding.
I run anywhere from -1 to -2º sticks to the road way better than positive camber but obviously no more than that much negative.
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| posted on September 12th, 2013 at 11:36 PM |
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Are you changing the camber or the ride height? If it's sitting on the bump stops then that won't help the ride!
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 06:57 AM |
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what type of rear end is it, IRS or swing axel, i have both and run about 1 degree on the swing axel and similar on the IRS, all my cars ride well and
are not bouncy, at 1 degree you still should have clearence on the bump stop, i run type 3 bump stops and shorten them by 1/3. what shocks, i run the
KYB gasajusts with great resalts.
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 12:43 PM |
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Sorry - to clarify - I am changing the ride height, which gives me a change in Camber. It is not specifically the ride height that was concerning me,
it was the positive camber on the rear wheels and the resulting handling characteristics.
By lowering the ride height, and gaining more negative camber on the rears the handling improved dramatically, but the ride quality suffers. On rough
roads, it is quite harsh. On smoothish roads, the ride is ok.
I am running a swing axle rear.
Adjustment swing plates and urethane bushes all round.
When I jack up the rear of the car, there is movement in the rear suspension, but not much.
I don't think it is touching the bump stops - I removed them entirely and no real difference in the ride quality.
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 01:27 PM |
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I would say its something to do with the urethane bushes, they might be binding up as you lower. Did you lubricate them?
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 01:59 PM |
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I did put a far amount of Wheel Bearing Greease on them - on the bushes themselves, and in the cap.
That appropriate?
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 06:45 PM |
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The urethane bushes do make the ride firmer but not uncomfortable, the nature of the swing axle suspension does not allow much movement when static,
it must be rolling so the wheels can move up and the bottom of the tyre can move out in a arc, i run a swayaway camber compensator which acts as a
negitive spring which softens the first part of the wheel travel, what size wheels and tyres are you running, i have a similar set up on my 60 model
with 1 degree negitive, urethane bushes and 17" 45 series tyre and but still rides acceptably. were are you at, some one close by might be able to
have a look.
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 07:37 PM |
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Be interested to see what others beetles felt like with similar suspension setups so I get a point of reference.
Car is "bouncy" - best way to describe it, no real give, just bounces.
When I jacked up the rear, positive camber on the wheels as a result, car ride was smooth.
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 07:38 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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I did put a far amount of Wheel Bearing Greease on them - on the bushes themselves, and in the cap.
That appropriate?
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the inside of the bushes or outside?
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 08:11 PM |
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Inside, none really on the outside.
The urethane grease a better idea?
I am running 16x7's on 205/50 rubber
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 10:13 PM |
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Thanks for the comment mate, helpful.
I cant believe u actaully went to the hassle of posting that pic and writing that comment - keen on getting ur posts up there mate?
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 11:18 PM |
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have you checked to make sure your shocks are not bottoming out ?
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 11:41 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by aussie260z
Inside, none really on the outside.
The urethane grease a better idea?
I am running 16x7's on 205/50 rubber
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yes inside only, hard to say if the bushes have anything to do with it.
and yes urethane special grease is highly recommended. I use super pro bushes and special their grease and they have lasted over 140k and still going
good on my daily but I have no experience with poly bushed used on spring plates though.
I have used moly grease with good results as well.
do you hear any squeaking when you bounce the car up and down?
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| posted on September 13th, 2013 at 11:43 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by aussie260z
Thanks for the comment mate, helpful.
I cant believe u actaully went to the hassle of posting that pic and writing that comment - keen on getting ur posts up there mate?
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someones post I am not seeing?
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| posted on September 14th, 2013 at 12:01 AM |
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Yea mine, seems jokes are lost on people born without a sense of humour.
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| posted on September 14th, 2013 at 02:35 PM |
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lol i get that.
no one gets my humor, only my friends do 
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| posted on September 14th, 2013 at 04:02 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Craig Torrens
have you checked to make sure your shocks are not bottoming out ?
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X2
Or are the spring plates bottoming out? ie.... Do the need to be notched?
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| posted on September 14th, 2013 at 05:30 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by aussie260z
Be interested to see what others beetles felt like with similar suspension setups so I get a point of reference.
Car is "bouncy" - best way to describe it, no real give, just bounces.
When I jacked up the rear, positive camber on the wheels as a result, car ride was smooth.
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i get a similar feeling when I have too high a pressure in the rear tires
As for the other comments, please remember this is an all age forum and that kind of language isn't acceptable
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