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| posted on January 4th, 2014 at 03:51 PM |
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cruise controll warning
I've seen / heard this before but can't see how it can be correct, surely if the cruise controll senses that your speed has increased it would
automaticaly back off, any thoughts from those who have knowledge of the way cruise works?
A 36 year old female had an accident several weeks ago. It was raining, though not excessively when her car suddenly began to hydroplane and literally
flew through the air. She was not seriously injured but very stunned at the sudden occurrence! When she explained to the Police Officer what had
happened, he told her something that every driver should know -
NEVER DRIVE IN THE RAIN WITH YOUR CRUISE CONTROL ON..
She thought she was being cautious by setting the cruise control and maintaining a safe consistent speed in the rain.... But the Police Officer told
her that if the cruise control is on,your car will begin to hydro-plane when the tires lose contact with the road, and your car will accelerate to a
higher rate of speed making you take off like an airplane. She told the Officer that was exactly what had occurred. The Officer said this warning
should be listed, on the driver's seat sun-visor along with the airbag warning.
NEVER USE THE CRUISE CONTROL WHEN THE ROAD IS WET OR ICY
We tell our teenagers to set the cruise control and drive a safe speed – but we don't tell them to use the cruise control ONLY when the road is
dry.
The only person the accident victim found who knew this, (besides the Officer), was a man who'd had a similar accident, totaled his car and sustained
severe injuries..
NOTE: Some vehicles (like the Toyota Sienna Limited XLE) will not allow you to set the cruise control when the windshield wipers are on.
Even if you send this to 15 people and only one of them doesn't know about it, it's still worth it. You may have saved a life.
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| posted on January 4th, 2014 at 04:32 PM |
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If the speedo sensor is on the transmission which is the norm, the engine will ensure the drive tyres maintain the same speed (and thus tyres continue
rotating the same).
Now... if the speedo sensor was say like the old dub, on a front wheel and its a rear wheel drive car, if you were to hydroplane and your front tyres
slowed down (as it glides or bull dozers into the water while loosing traction), the cruise control would drive the engine harder, drive the rear
wheels harder until that speed sensor reading is where it should be at the front tyre. I can see that getting hairy.
Mind you, i'm yet to see a cruise control setup that goes WOT, so it won't 'take off' but gently accelerate :S.
Gently accelerating sure beats braking while hydroplaning though in so many ways though, assuming no abs. No no to braking, just ride it out.
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That's a load of rubbish. Even if you were hydroplaning, all your wheels should still be turning at more or less the same speed as before, so there
would be no reason for the cruise control to accelerate. As far as the point where the car "literally flew through the air", unless you were
hydroplaning over a hump-backed bridge at double the speed limit, this is not even remotely possible.
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| posted on January 4th, 2014 at 07:04 PM |
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Bullshit alert!
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on January 4th, 2014 at 08:50 PM |
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I can tell you with 100% authority that if you are driving a 2007 Mitsubishi lancer up Mt Ousley with cruise control on and you hit a stream of water
across the road the only thing that happens is that the cruise control drops off leaving you confused as to why your car just suddenly lost power.
Expect no taking off like an airplane or an aeroplane.
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| posted on January 4th, 2014 at 09:09 PM |
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Yep same with a 2012 Toyota Rav4 if you hit even a pretty small puddle (on Bruce Hwy at Northlakes) it just automatically cancels the cruise making
car slow suddenly & makes you wonder WTF is wrong with the car... No take off....
Maybe different in older cars, although My old 1994 Nissan Bluebird SSS which didn't have traction control didn't even do it either....
Pretty sure car that this story was on was an EF Falcon (94-96)?
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| posted on January 4th, 2014 at 11:42 PM |
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Don, take it from me that this is all true. How it works?
1. When you hit a big enough puddle on the road it slows the vehicle. Try this yourself if you have not experienced it before. The bigger the puddle
the faster you slow.
2. What happens when the car slows, the cruise control tries to increase the speed. The more speed that gets wiped off the more the car
accelerates.
3. If the puddle is deep enough, you are aquaplaning.
Example, your doing 100 km/h and you hit a puddle, car slows rapidly, to say 80km/h, the cruise control gives a heap of accelerator to increase speed,
but because the tyres are aquaplaning, the wheels are spinning back up to set speed 100km/h.
Now the car is doing 80km/h and the wheels are doing 100km/h and then when you regain traction, it launches the car back up to speed and it will keep
accelerating until it reaches 100km/h no matter what the direction the car is travelling, forwards, backwards or sideways, until either the you turn
off the cruise control or touch the brakes.
Manufacturers are aware of this and now have set parameters within which the cruise control operates. If a sudden acceleration is out of those
parameters, it shuts it down. Or as you mention, turn on the wipers, it cancels the cruise.
Remember, this only happens under certain conditions, and if you have had it happen to you, you will know about it. When it happened to me, it was a
real WTF moment, because when the car regains traction, HOLD ON!
Dave
PS Happy New Year!
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| posted on January 4th, 2014 at 11:53 PM |
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Hi
My name is Steve and I'm a cruise control addict and this sounds like load of shit, maybe the driver hit the accelerator pedal instead of the brakes,
tell me that has never happened before.
I have retro fitted cruise to an old Audi 100, my yellow 1302 and now my 1303.
Steve
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 05:17 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ragged
Don, take it from me that this is all true. How it works?
1. When you hit a big enough puddle on the road it slows the vehicle. Try this yourself if you have not experienced it before. The bigger the puddle
the faster you slow.
2. What happens when the car slows, the cruise control tries to increase the speed. The more speed that gets wiped off the more the car
accelerates.
3. If the puddle is deep enough, you are aquaplaning.
Example, your doing 100 km/h and you hit a puddle, car slows rapidly, to say 80km/h, the cruise control gives a heap of accelerator to increase speed,
but because the tyres are aquaplaning, the wheels are spinning back up to set speed 100km/h.
Now the car is doing 80km/h and the wheels are doing 100km/h and then when you regain traction, it launches the car back up to speed and it will keep
accelerating until it reaches 100km/h no matter what the direction the car is travelling, forwards, backwards or sideways, until either the you turn
off the cruise control or touch the brakes.
Manufacturers are aware of this and now have set parameters within which the cruise control operates. If a sudden acceleration is out of those
parameters, it shuts it down. Or as you mention, turn on the wipers, it cancels the cruise.
Remember, this only happens under certain conditions, and if you have had it happen to you, you will know about it. When it happened to me, it was a
real WTF moment, because when the car regains traction, HOLD ON!
Dave
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Dave, that is EXACTLY what happened to my son, Tim, in his V8 Maloo ute.
He was traveling at 110 kph up Catherine Hill [near Mittagong] on the freeway, cruise control set. It was pouring rain and dark, and half-way up the
hill there was a 'river' of water across the road.
When the ute hit water, it slowed rapidly, and the cruise control quickly got the rear wheels back to the set speed. Fortunately Tim can drive well
http://vimeo.com/search?q=tim+mackie+record , as a Maloo sideways
at 110 kph needs some attention! No damage done, and lesson learned.
It is NOT a "load of shit" at all.
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 06:25 AM |
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Name one car that disconnects when the wipers are on.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 08:14 AM |
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Yes
I have read about this before...
cruise control on later vehicles does NOT just hold the throttle until its released by braking..
All computer controlled nowadays..
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 09:13 AM |
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Dave, that is EXACTLY what happened to my son, Tim, in his V8 Maloo ute.
He was traveling at 110 kph up Catherine Hill [near Mittagong] on the freeway, cruise control set. It was pouring rain and dark, and half-way up the
hill there was a 'river' of water across the road.
When the ute hit water, it slowed rapidly, and the cruise control quickly got the rear wheels back to the set speed. Fortunately Tim can drive well
http://vimeo.com/search?q=tim+mackie+record , as a Maloo sideways
at 110 kph needs some attention! No damage done, and lesson learned.
It is NOT a "load of shit" at all.
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Can also say ths is not a load of shit.
Had a Holden V8 ute also. No traction control on this one. Cruise on pouring rain and before i knew what happened i had spun 3 times on the highway at
110 ended up in the middle of the road bogged to sills luckily no damage.
Could have turned out a lot worse. I think it was in the owners manual to turn it off. I hadn't read it as i had only just picked the car up an was
on way home.
I never have cruise on in the wet now traction control or not.
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 12:15 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Name one car that disconnects when the wipers are on.
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I have heard Lexus have implemented it with Toyota soon to follow. This is just what I heard from our GM product trainer who went to Detroit last year
for a look at all the new technogy to be coming out soon from a hanful of companies. Apparently Holden were going to install this feature on the
Malibu because it was going to be aimed as a car for fleet sales and it would help prevent accidents in rental cars. But then they decided too many
people would take the car back to the hire company and say the cruise didn't work. A quick Google search would tell you for sure who is using this
feature or soon to be.
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I recall discussing this with a club member a few years ago with his T5 towing a car on a trailer.
Hit a big puddle on the hay plains heading to Warwick.
As the vehicle slowed dramatically the rear wheels maintained a steady 110 kph.
Scared the absolute Bejeesus out of him!
Despite the configuration of the vehicle ( front or rear wheel drive, front or rear drive speedo), it's the cruise control's job t maintain
speed.
If the drive wheels are hydroplaning, they have effectively NO traction.
So they are going to spin.
From here on in, all bets are off.
This is just another example IMHO of the degradation of driving skills in the modern age.
Power steering, cruise control, ABS, reverse assist,proximity sensors, parking assist etc. etc.
The vehicle is doing all the work, the drivers are becoming less skilled, and are less able to deal with a crisis when it happens.
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 01:30 PM |
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posted by Lucky Phil
I recall discussing this with a club member a few years ago with his T5 towing a car on a trailer.
Hit a big puddle on the hay plains heading to Warwick.
As the vehicle slowed dramatically the rear wheels maintained a steady 110 kph.
Scared the absolute Bejeesus out of him!
Despite the configuration of the vehicle ( front or rear wheel drive, front or rear drive speedo), it's the cruise control's job t maintain
speed.
If the drive wheels are hydroplaning, they have effectively NO traction.
So they are going to spin.
From here on in, all bets are off.
This is just another example IMHO of the degradation of driving skills in the modern age.
Power steering, cruise control, ABS, reverse assist,proximity sensors, parking assist etc. etc.
The vehicle is doing all the work, the drivers are becoming less skilled, and are less able to deal with a crisis when it happens.
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Did he turn off ASR for this to happen, if not his ABS sensors are faulty and not measuring wheel speed as they are rotating.
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 02:21 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Lucky Phil
I recall discussing this with a club member a few years ago with his T5 towing a car on a trailer.
Hit a big puddle on the hay plains heading to Warwick.
As the vehicle slowed dramatically the rear wheels maintained a steady 110 kph.
Scared the absolute Bejeesus out of him!
Despite the configuration of the vehicle ( front or rear wheel drive, front or rear drive speedo), it's the cruise control's job t maintain
speed.
If the drive wheels are hydroplaning, they have effectively NO traction.
So they are going to spin.
From here on in, all bets are off.
This is just another example IMHO of the degradation of driving skills in the modern age.
Power steering, cruise control, ABS, reverse assist,proximity sensors, parking assist etc. etc.
The vehicle is doing all the work, the drivers are becoming less skilled, and are less able to deal with a crisis when it happens.
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The T5 is front drive......or was it a Synchro?
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 02:36 PM |
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posted by AA003
Bullshit alert!
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absolutely!
but some food for thought though.
I have bob jane tyres on my holden atm which are the worst tyres anyone can own for wet driving. They will wheel spin at a drop of a hat in the wet.
literally off idle they spin.
Anyway, when I engage cruise control in 3rd or 4th in the rain, the initial surge of torque is enough to kick the rear end due to the tyres having no
grip in the rain. It can do this on cruise resume as well (accelerating). It not the fault of the cruise control, its the horrific bob janes. It would
do this normally when slowly accelerating anyway.
Otherwise there is no issue when cruising as a constant speed is maintained, thats what its suppose to do. Also handy having a manual with cruise
control as it engine brakes automatically coming down hill. = no accidental speeding fines
I use cruise control all the time in the wet or dry, the car hydroplanes regularly, the cruise control does not react at all to it. Absolutely 0
effect or relationship to hydroplaning . I would even say its better than me as its very very touchy accelerator.
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 02:55 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by ragged
Don, take it from me that this is all true. How it works?
1. When you hit a big enough puddle on the road it slows the vehicle. Try this yourself if you have not experienced it before. The bigger the puddle
the faster you slow.
2. What happens when the car slows, the cruise control tries to increase the speed. The more speed that gets wiped off the more the car
accelerates.
3. If the puddle is deep enough, you are aquaplaning.
Example, your doing 100 km/h and you hit a puddle, car slows rapidly, to say 80km/h, the cruise control gives a heap of accelerator to increase speed,
but because the tyres are aquaplaning, the wheels are spinning back up to set speed 100km/h.
Now the car is doing 80km/h and the wheels are doing 100km/h and then when you regain traction, it launches the car back up to speed and it will keep
accelerating until it reaches 100km/h no matter what the direction the car is travelling, forwards, backwards or sideways, until either the you turn
off the cruise control or touch the brakes.
Manufacturers are aware of this and now have set parameters within which the cruise control operates. If a sudden acceleration is out of those
parameters, it shuts it down. Or as you mention, turn on the wipers, it cancels the cruise.
Remember, this only happens under certain conditions, and if you have had it happen to you, you will know about it. When it happened to me, it was a
real WTF moment, because when the car regains traction, HOLD ON!
Dave
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I can tell you for sure, when I hit a massive puddle or even when the road surface drop s and rear wheels leave the ground the engine actually slows
down.
what seems to happen is yes the car slows down, the engine may or may not momentarily speed up but a soon as the driven wheels loose traction they
want to speed up and instantly the cruise control backs off to maintain speed. Because the cruise control backs off instantly (or very quicky) and has
a tenancy to very slowly accelerate at first and gradually increasing acceleration over time , that in turn gives it a slowing down bias when rear
wheels loose traction.
every time I go over a massive drop in road surface and the rear wheel get air borne i loose speed and feels like a loss of power. There is no
classical revving off it tits like you get in games while airborne.
when hitting puddles its hard to say if its just the water slowing you down or the water and engine as well due to traction loss and cruise backing
off.
I know a lot of factory cruise control systems have tones of safety features programed in to them. Even in the worst scenarios there is features to
counter that. I know my factory setup has them. believe me I tried to fault it o make sure its safe.
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How often do you hit a puddle large enough to slow you down while using cruise control?
If it's raining that hard you would be varying your speed anyway.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
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vlad01, when you find yourself in a hole..STOP DIGGING - it's an old rule.
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Driving T5 in the rain, with the race car on the trailer, overtaking semi with not a lot of distance from oncoming traffic the cruise controll just
cut off....the loss of speed made the situation pretty hairy...fortunately I did get away..
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Hi Greg
Your sons experience comes almost 1st person so it has to be respected.
A Maloo ute would be handful in wet conditions
The ancient Dana cruise control that I've retrofitted to my cars has an engine speed sensor, when you change gear it detects the sudden rise in
engine rpm and cuts off as soon as the clutch pedal is depressed, its a shame the cars that have had issues don't have this feature, I'm sure it
would help in these extreme conditions, and the people whose cruise has cut out in these conditions, their cars must have this feature.
As for "This is just another example IMHO of the degradation of driving skills in the modern age." I disagree, cruise control if properly used is a
great safety feature, if you don't have to constantly check your speed the driver can pay more attention to the road and what's going on around
them.
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 09:17 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by AA003
How often do you hit a puddle large enough to slow you down while using cruise control?
If it's raining that hard you would be varying your speed anyway.
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well if the government would fix the roads in vic then I could drive not in a lake when it rains lol. Pretty much at least 50 times on the way to work
when the road it wet. There is inadequate drainage and the angles of the roads just holds water in the middle.
Yes I do vary. when I see a puddle 50m long as wide as the road. I slow down naturally.
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posted by 1303Steve
Hi Greg
Your sons experience comes almost 1st person so it has to be respected.
A Maloo ute would be handful in wet conditions
The ancient Dana cruise control that I've retrofitted to my cars has an engine speed sensor, when you change gear it detects the sudden rise in
engine rpm and cuts off as soon as the clutch pedal is depressed, its a shame the cars that have had issues don't have this feature, I'm sure it
would help in these extreme conditions, and the people whose cruise has cut out in these conditions, their cars must have this feature.
As for "This is just another example IMHO of the degradation of driving skills in the modern age." I disagree, cruise control if properly used is a
great safety feature, if you don't have to constantly check your speed the driver can pay more attention to the road and what's going on around
them.
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I agree on the last statement especially. I am checking my speed constantly when I dont use it as its so touchy and few times when looking at my speed
drifted from my lane or off the road a little. Makes me angry that they police the speed so much.
One of the main reasons i use it on all highways. So I can drive and concentrate and not have a sore foot trying to hold between 1-2% throttle all the
time.
I can just see it. Some one will kill some person trying not to speed coz they were looking at their speed.
back to the cruise control. What is the min cruise enable speed on some of you guys cars? Mine does not allow until 60km/h
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posted by HappyDaze
vlad01, when you find yourself in a hole..STOP DIGGING - it's an old rule.
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not if you intend to push other people into it.
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 09:50 PM |
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40. Works like a pit lane speed limiter through school zones
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 10:08 PM |
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mine would be too scary to use at that speed. I shit bricks couple of times coming up to an intersection and accidentally turning on cruise instead of
turning it off.
Its like launching the car side stepping the clutch when your actual intentions were to slow down using the brakes.  its only for a split sec when the cruise comes in, but at lower
gears its a mighty big boot in the pants and scares the crap out of you. You never forget where the brake pedal is after that
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 10:27 PM |
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The Rav's min is just under 40kph... Cruise has come a long way because with it, if you hold down decelerate/coast after 3-4seconds it actually
applies the brakes...
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 10:29 PM |
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Depends on the car I guess.
My Supra TT and also the Soarer TT I had use the front wheel brake ABS sensors to determine speed for the cruise, and the ECU spped signal came from
the gearbox, so when you went around a gravel corner and the tyres bit, you lost a few kph, so the power was applied to gain speed. It also happened a
few times on a wet freeway when you hit a lot of water running across the road.
Only issue with this is a 300kW twin turbo doesn't stop turning the tyres instantly like a V8 Maloo when you get off the throttle, they keep turning
for a half to full second.
A few moments there for me in the past.......
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| posted on January 5th, 2014 at 10:48 PM |
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see for me, when the throttle snaps shut, the rear wheels lock a little on slippery surfaces up to 3rd/4th. 2nd locks on dry road a fair bit, 1st well
that fully stops the wheels from turning at all and is just like locking the hand brake. I can actually spin the wheels and then fully lock them in
one throttle application in 1st at low speed without using anything but my throttle.
lucky that cruise does not work below 60k so that is not a problem. But a major advantage as I can't overrun with cruise on.
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