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| posted on February 14th, 2014 at 09:04 PM |
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installing a pop top into a standard van
...just curious as to how difficult it is to convert a van (71-74) to a pop top or is it even possible/worth the time and effort?
thanks in advance......
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| posted on February 14th, 2014 at 11:05 PM |
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It is possible, mine is a 74 panel van that's been done. Has had some windows fitted that look like they were originally for a caravan. If you are
putting kids in the back they will get claustro without something to look out of. I am going to fit the sliding door off a bus to open it up a bit
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| posted on February 16th, 2014 at 01:05 PM |
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As I found out on here, they all started out as tintops and holes just got cut into them. Good luck!
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| posted on February 16th, 2014 at 02:56 PM |
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Presumably you will have to add belly pans to strengthen up the chassis ?
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| posted on February 16th, 2014 at 03:25 PM |
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Presumably you will have to add belly pans to strengthen up the chassis ?
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None of the Australian campers had pans. They were just Kombis that some mong attacked with a chainsaw.
That's why they just had a Kombi VIN.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
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| posted on February 16th, 2014 at 03:46 PM |
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posted by Dibsy
Presumably you will have to add belly pans to strengthen up the chassis ?
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cool, thanks for the zeebang, I wasn't sure on this stuff. I am worried that if i just chop a top out and install a popper that it may f%$k things up
elsewhere. More research I guess......
thanks bloke.....
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| posted on February 16th, 2014 at 03:48 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Dibsy
Presumably you will have to add belly pans to strengthen up the chassis ?
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None of the Australian campers had pans. They were just Kombis that some mong attacked with a chainsaw.
That's why they just had a Kombi VIN.
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If this is true then it seems reasonable to just do a cut and add a popper...... If there are still vans /poppers cruising round now then it must be
ok to bite the bullet and do it.....
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| posted on February 16th, 2014 at 04:36 PM |
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You wont be cutting any of the roof supports that run on the side parallel to the main chassis. The change in body strength is negligible. You may
have to cut one of the small lateral sideways supports that is there to stop the roof sheet metal from vibrating. I would recommend looking at another
bus that has been done at a wrecker and see if you can see what is cut and where they moved any lateral supports to. Maybe someone here has a photo of
their top from the inside before the headlining was put back in.
The belly pan/ second floor skin was on the double doors. They had a slider on both sides, so that would allow the top and bottom of the bus to skew
at the door openings if overstressed. In a single door the outside panel on the opposide side gives the appropriate extra strength.
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| posted on February 16th, 2014 at 07:01 PM |
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posted by helbusThe belly pan/ second floor skin was on the double doors.
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Also on Westfalias as they were built on a sunroof bodies that had extra strengthening built in.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
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| posted on February 17th, 2014 at 08:28 AM |
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If you are cutting it out then you may as well strengthen the edges as you go. Costs bugger all and will take 1/2 a day with a welder and some
steel.
Also, if you do go down this path. Learn from the mistakes of the likes of Supro and Westfalia. Place the pop top on the roof and mark out the
perimeter. Tape it up and then use a good quality rust prohibiting paint. Something like rust bullet automotive. you will probably go through $100
(1ltr) worth of it. Take photos of having done it and you will get your money back if you sell.
Sleeping in the bus and normal conditions causes too much rust within these skins.
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| posted on February 21st, 2014 at 08:07 PM |
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cool, thanks for all the info. Not sure it's something I want to tackle at the moment.........
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