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| posted on March 14th, 2014 at 09:11 AM |
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Speedo probs
Ive been having trouble with the speedo in the kalita of late, its a VDO, I sent it in for repair some time back as the odometer stopped working, had
a new bezel fitted at the same time, well 12 months on and I got around to refiting it in the car but noticed that the trip meter wasn't working so
removed it and took it back to be rectified, (done under repair warantee) well it lasted another 142 k's and then the speed was registering as around
60 when in my estimate I was doing at least 100k's, the odo and the trip stopped working, so it's back to the repairer again (registered VDO
people). I'm thinking its stuffed, so I'm thinking of a full replacement, digital may be the go, the hole in the dash is 80mm and not much else will
fit, maybe a little larger but not much. any thoughts / recomendations?
thanks
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| posted on March 14th, 2014 at 06:27 PM |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Speedhut-3-3-8-GPS-Speedometer-Gauge-120mph-/37100592...
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| posted on March 14th, 2014 at 06:41 PM |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=84077
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| posted on March 14th, 2014 at 06:51 PM |
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Hi
User gordysbeetle was selling a GPS one the other day. I have HUD gps speedo in my bug and I love it.
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| posted on March 15th, 2014 at 12:38 AM |
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But what of the warning lights and fuel gauge?
Alos, for the OP. Dunno how they screwed up the speed reading as it's just a magnetic disc that drags the needle round the dial. Stronger the
magnetic field the faster the needle indicates.
as for the odometer, it's just a case of replacing worn gears with new ones. The later speedos used plastic gears and the one that wears most or can
strip is the first worm gear as it's driven by the steel speedo input shaft. If the gears are too tight then they will wear quickly or jam and strip.
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| posted on March 15th, 2014 at 02:06 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1303Steve
Hi
User gordysbeetle was selling a GPS one the other day. I have HUD gps speedo in my bug and I love it.
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Yep, made an initial enquiry about that one but it was 100mm diameter, no good to me, bit of a shame but thats life.
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| posted on March 15th, 2014 at 02:08 PM |
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Hmmm, look ok but either too small or MPH thanks for the lead though Ian, I may send them an enquiry to see if they can solve my problem.
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| posted on March 15th, 2014 at 02:10 PM |
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Am I missing something here Ian? can't see any mention of speedos'
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| posted on March 15th, 2014 at 02:15 PM |
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Not loking good for a repair, the last message I got was that it is "falling apart inside" and they tell me that they are no longer available new,.
I'm waiting for them to get back to me with more info.
psimitar, that bit about the gears being too tight may be the problem, maybe the last time it was in they didn't adjust it correctly and caused the
problem, maybe.
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| posted on March 15th, 2014 at 02:40 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
Am I missing something here Ian? can't see any mention of speedos'
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click on pics of speedo on right side of the page. its a vw speedo, you could cut dash or make ring to fit speedo.
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| posted on March 15th, 2014 at 06:54 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
Not loking good for a repair, the last message I got was that it is "falling apart inside" and they tell me that they are no longer available new,.
I'm waiting for them to get back to me with more info.
psimitar, that bit about the gears being too tight may be the problem, maybe the last time it was in they didn't adjust it correctly and caused the
problem, maybe.
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I've just finished converting an older style MPH speedo into a KPH speedo. Parts are the issue so I had to buy a later KPH speedo for the odometer
gears. As for the speedo face i have created a few transfer to go onto the old MPH face once I've sanded it and painted satin black.
there ain't much to the inside of a speedo and especially on later plastic geared speedos it's the gears that wear/break as the rest in steel. Well
except for the odometer reels and incrementing gears.
I reckon you may be better off just getting a used second hand one from Ebay. heck if I was close to you I'd come take a look at the one you've
got.
Oh, i did have a thought that the speed reading incorrectly could well be a worn speedo cable. The square end that goes into the speedo could be
partially rounded and so slipping and causing the issue or worse case scenario is the speedos input shaft internal square drive has partially rounded.
As I said before the magnetic drag cup is unlikely to give an issue unless for some reason the permanent magnet as degraded.
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| posted on March 15th, 2014 at 10:25 PM |
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Oops
Looks like I didn't give all the info correctly, please excuse my stupidity, this is not a standard speedo, it's a VDO but not a standard VW job,
only 80 mm diameter, as you would be aware the standard VW ones are much larger, no warning lights etc just a basic speedo. Not much room in the dash
for a larger unit.
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| posted on March 16th, 2014 at 10:39 AM |
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Speedhut is your friend. all different sizes, customised your own colours and bezels etc, all different speeds in MPH or KPH from 40 to 400. With and
without idiot lights, indicators, fuel gauges, tachos inside. Most of the multi gauges are 4 inch though i think.
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| posted on March 16th, 2014 at 10:52 AM |
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The legality of the GPS speedo would be questionable as it can drop out in certain circumstances making the vehicle unroadworthy.
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| posted on March 16th, 2014 at 06:48 PM |
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pft, if your that worried. I'm sure I could find a few things on anyones car that is more questionable. the fact that it is actually acurate for the
other 99.99% of your life easily outweights this.
Tunnel is the only issue ive had, and then on a bug the tacho is an easy way to go about those few minutes of your life. seriously, GPS speedo is
heavenly.
Not to mention the fact that you have 2 trip meters, an acurate odometer, 1/4 mile time test, 0-100km/h test. and no need for speedo cable oiling of
replacement ever again.
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| posted on March 16th, 2014 at 06:51 PM |
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| posted on March 16th, 2014 at 09:04 PM |
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as I said when the speedo drops out the car is unroadworthy.
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| posted on March 16th, 2014 at 10:47 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
Oops
Looks like I didn't give all the info correctly, please excuse my stupidity, this is not a standard speedo, it's a bod but not a standard VW job,
only 80 mm diameter, as you would be aware the standard VW ones are much larger, no warning lights etc just a basic speedo. Not much room in the dash
for a larger unit.
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No worries dude 
Maybe just do a bit of Google searching for an appropriate replacement. Been ages since I went looking for additional gauges so VDO is the only brand
that springs to mind but know there are plenty more good makes out there.
Altho I'm still intrigued by the speedo you have cos if it's mechanical, ie with a cable drive, then I'd like to see what is going on inside it.
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| posted on March 20th, 2014 at 12:10 AM |
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as I said when the speedo drops out the car is unroadworthy.
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well they do mechanical speedo's too, not sure on the calibrating and adapting though
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So after taking carefull note of all the above advice, changing my mind several times, calling the &*%#@!s that have my speedo to ask what is
going on (haven't got to it yet sir, had a couple of the techs off last week, parts are a bit hard to obtain, no probs with parts it's a VDO  ) I bit the bullet and ordered a GPS Speedhut job, slightly larger
than the one in there now (well used to be in there ) and a
reasonable price, considerably better than the same jobie on evil bay. I did consider the advice on the legality of a GPS speedo so got in touch with
RTA, or whatever they call themselves now, got told that they don't have anything to do with speedos and they gave me a number for Vehicle Safety
department or some damned mob, they advised that they are only concerned with new vehicles (that is before a new model is released onto the market)
and told me that I need to talk to Fair trading, (what the F does fair trading have to do with speedos I asked, "don't know he said but you need to
talk to them") so I called Fair Trading and got some dope who only wanted to know how I knew it had been wound back !??!?!?!. Three quarters of an
hour later I decided that if no one in officialdom knows then I'll do what I want, sure they don't work too well in a tunnel but how long do I spend
driving through tunnels?So I ordered it from the States, let's see if they come through as promissed.
Oh, and after that ramble, thanks to all who took the time to advise, it realy helps to have a sounding board sometimes.
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| posted on April 3rd, 2014 at 03:50 PM |
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I'm on the speedhut band wagon too. just as a fyi alot of tunnels are now having gps repeaters put in, so the drop out will soon enough be a think of
the past
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| posted on April 3rd, 2014 at 05:26 PM |
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Cool now I won't have to get nervous when the Garmin Greeks out when there's no reception in the odd tunnel 
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| posted on April 3rd, 2014 at 06:22 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
So after taking carefull note of all the above advice, changing my mind several times, calling the &*%#@!s that have my speedo to ask what is
going on (haven't got to it yet sir, had a couple of the techs off last week, parts are a bit hard to obtain, no probs with parts it's a VDO ) I bit the bullet and ordered a GPS Speedhut job, slightly larger
than the one in there now (well used to be in there ) and a
reasonable price, considerably better than the same jobie on evil bay. I did consider the advice on the legality of a GPS speedo so got in touch with
RTA, or whatever they call themselves now, got told that they don't have anything to do with speedos and they gave me a number for Vehicle Safety
department or some damned mob, they advised that they are only concerned with new vehicles (that is before a new model is released onto the market)
and told me that I need to talk to Fair trading, (what the F does fair trading have to do with speedos I asked, "don't know he said but you need to
talk to them") so I called Fair Trading and got some dope who only wanted to know how I knew it had been wound back !??!?!?!. Three quarters of an
hour later I decided that if no one in officialdom knows then I'll do what I want, sure they don't work too well in a tunnel but how long do I spend
driving through tunnels?So I ordered it from the States, let's see if they come through as promissed.
Oh, and after that ramble, thanks to all who took the time to advise, it realy helps to have a sounding board sometimes.
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Ah, Aussie legislation. Awesome isn't it? 
Glad you made your choice tho
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