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posted on May 13th, 2014 at 10:16 PM
beetle 0-100 times
Hey all. I was just checking out a few new car 0-100 times, mainly golf gti's. They are doing it in the high 6 seconds. What is possible in a beetle
with say a mild to hot street drivable 1776-1916??? Do they even come close to this. Thanks
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posted on May 13th, 2014 at 10:21 PM
About 7 seconds at best ?
There was a web-based calculator somewhere so it could be estimated from certain drag times 0-60ft or 0 to 660ft, can't remember.
BRUTUS (2000cc) worked out to 6.9sec.
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posted on May 13th, 2014 at 10:24 PM
yeah right. Thats pretty dam good, and would feel a hell load faster too comparded to a new car.
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posted on May 13th, 2014 at 11:21 PM
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probably closer to 9 sec.
depending on the weight of beetle, doing a roughy in my head this sounds about right assuming 100hp for a mild engine?
couple sec slower if its a s bug i gather.
its a bit arbitrary anyway as power curve and gear/finally drive ratio all play a big roll.
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posted on May 14th, 2014 at 07:47 AM
A stock 1303 I think was 16 seconds?
My 70 RWHP 1303 did around 11 secs with a stop watch and GPS
Wasn't that long ago anything under 10sevs was fast in a new car.
A friend had a turbo 2.3 1303 that was close to 5 secs
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posted on May 14th, 2014 at 08:10 AM
If my memory serves me somewhere in Rod penrose or Dangerous daves post is a break down of his runs and gives his 0-100.
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posted on May 14th, 2014 at 08:24 AM
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If my memory serves me somewhere in Rod penrose or Dangerous daves post is a break down of his runs and gives his 0-100.
Yes, but we are giving comparisons with a mild 1776/1915 in a street beetle.............not a drag cars times
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posted on May 14th, 2014 at 08:51 AM
Using the Wallace Drag Calculator, my 2.0 litre street beetle that does a 8.7 @ 80 mph 1/8 mile or 13.4 @ 97 mph coverts to a 0 - 60mph time of
4.89sec. Happy with that.....
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posted on May 14th, 2014 at 08:58 AM
A VW 1303 only had a 1300cc engine and would have taken over 20 seconds to 100 km/h. A 40-hp 1200 Beetle was around 25 seconds. If you mean a
Superbug, the correct name foir Australian models (which was basically a Euro 1303S) then yes, around 16 seconds.
Even if you got 100 bhp out of an air-cooled engine, it's not much by today's standards. 1 hp = 0.746 kW, so that's just under 77 kW. This is
roughly equivalent to the previous base Golf 77TSI (which is a turbo 1.2), and it did 0-100 in 10.6 sec.
The current mid-range and top-model normal petrol Golfs are now the 90TSI and 103TSI (both turbo 1.4s). They do 0-100 in 9.5 sec and 8.4 sec
respectively. The 103TDI turbo diesel does 0-100 in 9.2 sec - pretty good for an oil burner.
As another comparison, the cute little VW Up! (now discontinued from the Australian lineup) had a 1.0-litre naturally aspirated engine that made 55 kW
(74 bhp). It did 0-100 in 13.2 sec.
Previous importers Ateco, TKM and Inchcape sometimes promoted new models as 'the fastest Volkswagen ever sold in Australia.' They did this with the
Golf 2 GTI in 1990, then the Golf 3 VR6 in 1994, and then the Bora V6 in 1998. In 2004 the Passat W8 became the first Australian VW to be
electronically limited to 250 km/h top speed, so since then 'fastest' really means 'quickest'. The 4-litre 202 kW Passat W8 did 0-100 in 7.2 sec.
The 2008 Golf 5 R32 (184 kW) did 0-100 in 6.2 sec (DSG). The 2010 Golf 6 R (now a 188 kW turbo 4 in Aussie spec) did 0-100 in 5.7 sec. But this
wasn't the 'quickest VW' then - it was actually the bigger Passat R36 sedan, which had a bigger 3.6-litre 220 kW engine and did 0-100 in 5.6 sec.
This was later matched by the Passat CC V6, which used the same engine.
The new record is the current Golf 7 R, released last month. It now has a 206 kW 2.0 turbo four in Aussie spec, and does 0-100 in 5.0 sec. The
quickest and fastest VW ever sold in Australia.
Wheels tested an Aussie 1600 Superbug and it did it in 16.6
1600 74 Supers US models held back by all the pollution crap and did it in 18.5 secs
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posted on May 14th, 2014 at 10:46 AM
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A stock 1303 I think was 16 seconds?
My 70 RWHP 1303 did around 11 secs with a stop watch and GPS
Wasn't that long ago anything under 10sevs was fast in a new car.
A friend had a turbo 2.3 1303 that was close to 5 secs
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yep, just as I thought.
70rwhp is about 100 at the flywheel give or take 11 sec sounds spot on from my calc.
the quickest I been was in a GTR skyline, under 3 sec to 100km/h lol.
my cars vary from 7 to 9 to 17 sec,
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posted on May 14th, 2014 at 11:31 AM
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If my memory serves me somewhere in Rod penrose or Dangerous daves post is a break down of his runs and gives his 0-100.
Yes, but we are giving comparisons with a mild 1776/1915 in a street beetle.............not a drag cars times
