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| posted on June 9th, 2014 at 03:00 PM |
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Is it possible to install a late model Golf steering wheel on a 74 beetle steering column?
Hi Guys
Is it possible to install a late model steering wheel from a Golf GTI on a beetle with a 74 steering column?
If not, then what aftermarket wheels are there that will direct fit and work etc that look similar to late model steering wheels?
If there a rule of thumb regarding using "flat" vs "dished" wheels?
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| posted on June 9th, 2014 at 03:13 PM |
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You can fit an early model golf steering wheel onto an 74 bug according to this
http://au.vwheritage.com/vw_spares_Momo-Steering-Wheel-Boss-Small-Spline-74-8...
Probably not a late model wheel though.
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| posted on June 9th, 2014 at 03:14 PM |
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Thanks Cam070
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| posted on June 9th, 2014 at 08:40 PM |
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I found with the flat wheels I had very little clearance between the wheel and the indicator stalks. This was on my 70 model and 65 models. Real
pain in the bum when you are doing tight 3 point turns or manoeuvring the car round in a carpark or something. I prefer the dished. Having said that
I now recall the 74 had a flat wheel anyway so I guess all of the above may be null if the boss allows you to stand the wheel back far enough.
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| posted on June 9th, 2014 at 10:32 PM |
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If it's a late model wheel with the "big" splines, and your steering shaft is '74-up with the "small" splines, then VW used this as an OEM part
to adapt the two..........
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=vw+191+419+514a&tbm=isch&tbo=u&...
Thanks again to Joel the Superbug king who told me. 
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| posted on June 10th, 2014 at 06:35 AM |
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Thanks guys
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Greg
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| posted on June 11th, 2014 at 02:51 PM |
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Hi Modnrod,
Any idea where to get these adapters?
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Greg
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| posted on June 12th, 2014 at 02:04 PM |
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A mate made a Mk 3 golf column work and fit on his 65 beetle.
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| posted on June 12th, 2014 at 04:38 PM |
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So if you want the airbag to deploy, you just touch a wire to live and one to earth immediately before impact? Shit that takes reflexes!  Just kidding folks
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| posted on June 12th, 2014 at 04:46 PM |
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Hi Hutcho,
Thanks for your input 
I want just the wheel and not the Air bags.
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Greg
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| posted on June 13th, 2014 at 07:50 AM |
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I have 77 GTI fitted to my 65 bug
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| posted on June 13th, 2014 at 08:06 AM |
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Hi VW54
Can you please post a photo?
Any tips?
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| posted on June 13th, 2014 at 12:18 PM |
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yep lots of work
removing old bolt area and weld in new flat sheet section, so the column fits flat against body work under dash
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| posted on July 31st, 2014 at 07:15 PM |
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Hi guys,
I've gotten myself a wheel and adapter and the only problem is the wiper lever/stalk rubs against the wheel stopping it from fitting all the way
down.
Any tips on modifying the wiper stalk or is there a stalk from another model that is "straighter" and will fit?
Thanks
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Greg
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| posted on July 31st, 2014 at 08:56 PM |
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I have a '68 with a sports steering wheel fitted which is flat, so I modified the indicator lever which I think is a similar shape to the later model
wiper stalk. . It doesn't look real pretty but it works and has held up for years. The lever comes out from the steering column parallel to the dash,
then is angled toward the driver then goes parallel to the dash again. I cut the lever through the middle of the angled part right through then
overlapped the cut off piece on top of the stub from the steering column. I filed both flat and joined them with two 3mm stainless bolts and nylocs. I
did this mod with the lever still on the car so it was quite fiddly cutting, filing and drilling so close to the column and the dash. So it can be
done but I would be looking for a different model straighter lever if possible.
Cheers......Wayne
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 05:35 AM |
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I bought a brand new set of switchgear from Antonio Trejo off TheSamba.
You can see it on the LH side of the parts here off the Ultima model........
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=614804
Trial-fitted perfect on my '73 with an '84 GTi wheel (no pics though, it's in bits, sorry), with plenty of clearance..
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 07:01 AM |
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Thanks mate
Is it a straight plug and play replacement?
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 07:46 AM |
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Aahhmmmm, aahhh........
dunno!
Haven't checked that bit yet, I just assumed the plugs were the same! 
It looks like it, but I'm not 100%. Can check later if you like when I get home.
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 07:58 AM |
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The plugs are quite different on them and so is the wiring, they dont use a relay to switch between high and low baem, the switch itself does it.
just check the mounting points of the Golf switches, they normally use the 3 screw steering column not the beetle 4 screw ones.
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 08:01 AM |
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Gday Joel, OK will do.
I'm an electrickery tech, so I figured I'd just make it all work when I re-wire the thing anyway, but I will check tonight and get back to you
Greg.
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 08:34 AM |
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Thanks Dave and Joel
Joel, am I correct in thinking that in another post somewhere regarding this topic you mentioned something about a T25 wiper arm being able to be
fitted?? V
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 07:36 PM |
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Gday Greg.
The next time I say that something SHOULD fit, make sure you listen to Joel!
I never doubted you Joel, which is why I took pics to prove you right.
Firstly, my '73 is 4-bolt mount........
........and the wiring plugs look like this.........
The Mexican Beetle is 3-bolt mount and it looks like this.......
.........with these wiring plugs........
But WAIT!
The top 2 bolts line up. They also line up with the later Beetle fine-spline steering column I have (the one I was told would line up, and make the
Mex switchgear a bolt-in, which is why I bought them.  ).
So, I'm fairly confident I could do a few mods and make the two work together, but having seen both set ups, I honestly would only do that if I had
no other choice. Cutting the wiper arm and taking out an inch would be MUCH more betterer, and if the T25 arms fit, then I'm up for one as well.
Just as a side note, you're probably better off doing that anyway, the Mexican switchgear uses very, very soft plastics (read, probably easily
broken). I'd look elsewhere.
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 08:53 PM |
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Mate,
You're a legend!
Thanks for going to this much trouble...
Hopefully Joel will get back to us regarding the T25 arms....
If I figure any other option out I'll let you know.
Have a good weekend!
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Greg
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| posted on August 1st, 2014 at 08:58 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by LateralHave a good weekend!
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I will. You too.
Dave
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| posted on August 2nd, 2014 at 05:06 PM |
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Hi Dave
I spent today hunting around and pulling stuff apart...always fun on a cold day in Sydney!
Anyway, I'm pretty sure I got the T25 thing wrong and it was in fact T2 Bay Window that should fit.
I'm trying to track down a set and will let you know.
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| posted on August 3rd, 2014 at 04:43 PM |
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Sorry guys, only just got home from Valla.
I was looking at some T25 switches at the swap meet (they have that same 3 mounting screw layout) and whilst they would work with a 3 screw steering
column they are pretty long stalks to suit the Kenworth truck sized T25 steering wheel and would be too long for a bug I reckon.
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| posted on August 3rd, 2014 at 05:35 PM |
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Hi Joel,
What about a T2?
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| posted on August 3rd, 2014 at 08:36 PM |
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if you are talking late bay window Kombi, yes those can be used and are the easiest way around the wiper switch hitting the steering wheel.
They are the same as a Beetle one but have a much straighter stalk
I haven't done it myself but I worked on a friends Superbug which had one fitted.
Only trouble is its about the only wiper switch that isnt sold new to the best of my knowledge and used ones can be a bit of a crap shoot.
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| posted on August 3rd, 2014 at 09:12 PM |
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Hey guys call me a dodgy f$&k but I know from experience that the L bug indicator stalk can be carefully heated and bent - local vw shop did this
on my 73 many moons ago. Stops you taking the skin off your knuckles.....
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| posted on August 4th, 2014 at 06:36 AM |
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Thanks Guys
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