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 Baja Wes
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:14 AM |
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Twin Turbo VW Trike at the Jamboree
One of the highlights of the Jamboree was a twin turbo 1600cc VW engined trike.
It has twin turbos off a twin turbo jap WRX. It had twin intercoolers, and ran modern injection, with a digital EFI readout above the instuments.
The guy is getting 80HP at the wheels, which is pretty good. He is planning on building the 1600 up to a 2.2lt for some more power.
It's good to see someone running decent technology on the VW motor. The guy runs a shop called ;
Thunder Road Performance
PH (07) 5596 6800
They do a fair bit of drag car / street car stuff like Nos systems, alloy tanks, radiators, intercoolers, silicone hoses, race fabrications...
[Edited on 21-9-2003 by Baja Wes]
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:16 AM |
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he reckons the lack of mufflers isn't very loud. He said it sounds nice.
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:32 AM |
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:35 AM |
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notice dash..
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:37 AM |
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twin intercoolers..
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:39 AM |
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:45 AM |
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Would that have been at Valla?
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:46 AM |
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Very nice!
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 11:50 AM |
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Mate, that's sicka than sick!!!
That thing would have to be an absolute weapon!!! :thumb
I bet its scary on a wet road!! :o At least it has a luggage box to carry the spare Reg Grundies!!! 
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 01:13 PM |
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I saw taht fing the other day its v kool
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that is the sweetest looking v-dub motor.
Top marks to the man with the spanner!
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 07:10 PM |
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Yep it looked very nice. I also liked the yellow manx with turbo watercooled (didn't get a chance to see what it was out of) engine that I am
sure ran in the 12's and sounded like it did it so effortlessly (correct me if I am wrong if it wasn't 12.54 - I may have misread?). Quick
none the less.
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 08:06 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Dasdubber
Yep it looked very nice. I also liked the yellow manx with turbo watercooled (didn't get a chance to see what it was out of) engine that I am
sure ran in the 12's and sounded like it did it so effortlessly (correct me if I am wrong if it wasn't 12.54 - I may have misread?). Quick
none the less.
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That time looks about right. It had an EFI 13B turbo in the back, and had 13BVW number plates.
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 08:54 PM |
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80hp? is that all? sounds a bit low to me for that sort of setup...? how much boost is he running?
[Edited on 21-9-2003 by cray]
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 09:05 PM |
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80 horse is heaps for a trike. i have heard of people who put a 1916cc pobjoy steroids in them. talk about overkill. seriously scary stuff. one false
move and you're looking at the sky.... :O
let sleeping dubs lie
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 09:08 PM |
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i know it's heaps for a trike, but i'm saying for that setup, it sounds very low...
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 09:14 PM |
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:sandrine
Yes his name is andrew who owns the yellow manx.
Very quick...was still running when I left at 4pm Sun
Don't know how fast he went in the end...
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 09:17 PM |
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So it was a good day Judy?
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 09:23 PM |
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yes. yes it does...
wonder what went wrong?
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 09:28 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by cray
80hp? is that all? sounds a bit low to me for that sort of setup...? how much boost is he running?
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The thing you have to understand is we're talking HP at the wheels. The standard 1600 puts out about 30HP at the wheels. This is the same motor,
with a couple of turbos bolted on. So 80HP is pretty damn good out of a basically otherwise stock 1600. He's not trying to overboost it just to
get a dyno figure either. He wants reliability and drivability.
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 09:36 PM |
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and he'll be carrying a spare set of heads with him.
let sleeping dubs lie
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| posted on September 21st, 2003 at 10:03 PM |
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Yes very nice indeed....:thumb:thumb
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| posted on September 22nd, 2003 at 08:42 AM |
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Thats pretty schweet. What a neat looking engine. :thumb
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| posted on September 22nd, 2003 at 12:12 PM |
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I saw that aswell more to the point 80hp rear engine + no weight at the front + towbar with more rear wheel weight - wheelie bars = staring at the
sky....
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| posted on September 22nd, 2003 at 01:26 PM |
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:sandrine
Yes it was a great day.
This year it went over both Sat & Sun so the crowd wasn't as massive as has been.
You could easerly get around, toilets, food
pits etc.
It was 31 degrees Sat & probably 30 on Sun.
Still wore sunscreen & still was burnt
but I had a great time.
Good to see the few VW's there.
And also the times they were doing were
still impressive. Pity there wearn't more to look at.
Not to put the Mazda/4 & 6 cyl people down or anything but...
Yes the Mazda/6cyl, etc people aren't as friendly as VW people, rather more very competitive & their cars are more intense.
They are consentrating on engine power
more than us & getting the best times out of their speed, is everything to them.
I do appreciate the engineering that goes into the rotary engineering etc..
and spend a lot of time with these people
as my son loves & owns a Mazda.
So we must respect each to their own...different cars for different people.
Either way I had a great day out & thats all that matters.
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| posted on September 22nd, 2003 at 01:42 PM |
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What an awesome setup. Very very nice trike, and a beautiful, well thought out and put together engine.
However, if I had spent the thousands of $$ to put twin turbos and what looks like microtech injection, and all the custom chrome / stainless piping
on it, I'd be looking for more than 80hp at the wheels.
I'm not trying to bag the bloke - If I owned the trike, I'd never havce been game enough to put a turbo motor on it in the first place.
I'd say he must be keeping the boost pretty low deliberately, because for those $$, even on stock heads / bottom end, if you wanted more than
120hp at the crank, you could get it.
However - its still a bloody nice trike, and I would love that motor in my car !!!!:bounce
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| posted on September 22nd, 2003 at 02:10 PM |
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I guess there are a few things to remember. It is a trike that tows a trailer and goes very long distances, so you want reliability. I don't
think you could reliably get more than 80 wheel HP from a stock 1600 no matter what. If you think you can get more than that reliably your dreaming.
Just look at Fraser's dead 69 wheel HP turbo kombi and you might understand.
And as for wanting more from that fancy set-up, well he does, that's why he is building it up to a 2.2lt. He will no doubt go for some internals
that can handle some boost instead of the weak stock 1600 gear.
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| posted on September 22nd, 2003 at 06:50 PM |
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1600s can go harder....
http://www.lowbugget.com/turbo_hp_chart.html
this is a single turbo. 1600.
more horseys. sounds pretty reliable, but hey. (thanks for the link, kads/009 thread)
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| posted on September 23rd, 2003 at 09:42 AM |
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There's something weird about the figure on that site. It says, the 1600T at 8psi gave 121.8HP. Then it says that 12psi boosted the power a
further 34%. So 134% x 121.8HP = 163.2HP.
Then on another page it says ;
"This kit on a 1915cc with a 110 cam and 7.2:1 made over 150 hp@12lbs of boost"
Now I don't know about everyone else, but I think something isn't quite right. The 1600 has more HP than the 1915 at the same level of
boost.
They are also no doubt talking engine HP, so keep that in mind too. Also remember they are trying to sell something.
[Edited on 22-9-2003 by Baja Wes]
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| posted on September 23rd, 2003 at 10:38 AM |
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Why on earth would it possibly make over 80hp at the wheels? Its a 1600. The injection system is hardly going to add power. Its only
putting fuel in the same as a carb. I reckon there would be quite a bit of lag happening in this case, turbos appear far too big for 800cc to push,
but you're looking at a 266% hp increase here!
You need to watch some daytime tv to see what american advertising is about. Look for an ab-blaster 2000 or similar. They can turn you into an Arnold
Schwarzenegar doing exercise so light you dont even know you are doing it.
If every 2lb of boost increased my horspower by 15% I'd happily blow heads off all day long.
That thing would be bloody loud. Maybe not open Harley loud, but too bloody loud to have a happy neighbour. Gotta get myself a trike someday.
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