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posted on January 10th, 2004 at 09:23 AM
engine air scoops????


i was wondering where can u get those plastic air scoops for kombi's and how much they cost prefrably in newcastle area
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posted on January 10th, 2004 at 10:14 AM


Give Alec a ring from Klub VW DD

0412126784 / 0746322571
klubvwdd@bigpond.com

He also sells under under dash trays, emblems amongst others. He also has a good range of second hand stuff.
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posted on January 10th, 2004 at 11:50 AM


why do you need the scoops. i have the stock scoops - as part of the car body and i dont have a problem with heating. are you overheating?



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posted on January 10th, 2004 at 03:12 PM


nah ive just heard it improves engine performance and just keeps it that little bit cooler
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posted on January 10th, 2004 at 05:21 PM


Available from Vintage in Sydney 9789-1777 they have them in stock



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posted on January 10th, 2004 at 07:29 PM


would the benefits of "scooping" more air into the engine bay be outweighed by the extra drag of hanging a big piece of plastic off each side of your bus?

just my $0.02




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posted on January 10th, 2004 at 08:52 PM


also the build up of extra air in the engine bay is still being expelled through the cooler at the same rate and temp. i am skeptical of their usefulness.



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posted on January 10th, 2004 at 09:24 PM


I haven't fitted mine yet, but will keep a cloes eye on oil and head temps when I do, so I will know then if it improves or hinders cooling. (generally people say they help)
My reason for fitting is not for any gain in cooling, but to keep the weather out when parked :thumb
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posted on January 11th, 2004 at 05:32 AM


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scooping" more air into the engine bay be outweighed by the extra drag



Dont forget your driving a BRICK through the air so i dont think the extra drag will come into it.

But if it helps cooling the engine then its a plus.




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posted on January 11th, 2004 at 07:46 AM


Yeah, I was sorta wondering why you would worry about drag on a kombi........;)



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posted on January 11th, 2004 at 09:23 AM


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posted on January 11th, 2004 at 11:37 AM


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Yeah, I was sorta wondering why you would worry about drag on a kombi........



because there's so much there already. ;)




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posted on January 11th, 2004 at 11:46 AM


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Dont forget your driving a BRICK through the air so i dont think the extra drag will come into it.

But if it helps cooling the engine then its a plus.


If memory serves, year for year up to the '70s, the Kombi has always had a lower drag coefficient than the Beetle. Colin Chapman once replied to someone who said that aerodynamics was "..simple, what looks right is right..." that "It all depends who's looking."

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posted on January 12th, 2004 at 06:20 AM
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My mechanic recommended them if I was going to do long distances over 80 kms/hr.:bounce
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posted on January 12th, 2004 at 08:30 PM


I don't reckon ours are ugly :(

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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 12:10 AM


dose your kombi have a blow hole? free willy
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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 11:13 AM


if youre getting all that extra air in,would you also then be able to prop the lid a bit for even more heat exchange?



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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 01:52 PM


no, that lets the fan suck in heat from the exhaust & dust, the extra air from the scoops helps keep hot air out by force feeding cooler air, they seem to work best for me at 85 to 90 kmh - on an unfortunately long neccesary trip on Christmas day at 42 deg ambient, I founfd the temp going up if I went over or under those speeds on the freeway



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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 03:27 PM


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I don't reckon ours are ugly :(



Of course, I wasn't referring to *your* elephant ears, just the ones on those other kombis... Hell, yours is yellow and white, can't be all bad...




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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 04:04 PM


for my 2c they are like deck lid stand offs on a Type 1
Personal opinion on looks but they will drop temps.

I would definitely run them if i was doing long trips.

My problem is no one makes then for a T2.5 or what ever mine is called :(




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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 04:14 PM


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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 08:31 PM


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dose your kombi have a blow hole? free willy


Ha looks a bit like that or a portable shower :)

P.S. agree Peter, yellow rocks :thumb
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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 09:03 PM


Kom - i just noticed all the other beetles.

Was this some sort of VW holiday???




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posted on January 13th, 2004 at 11:51 PM


Mine look fine- white ears on a white Kombi
AND THEY WORK!! atleast 7-9 degrees lower in oil temp guage reading after they were fitted
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posted on January 14th, 2004 at 07:35 AM


well i may have been converted. i will consider buying them. how much are they and from where? do you rivet them in or what?



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posted on January 14th, 2004 at 11:19 AM
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don't rivet them on if you plan to take your kombi to the snow. They will cause your carby's to freeze if it gets cold enough.:bounce
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posted on January 14th, 2004 at 07:11 PM


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Kom - i just noticed all the other beetles.

Was this some sort of VW holiday???


Blue it was from last year's German Autofest in Canberra which Flat Four organised a weekend away to.

Astro, you can get clips for them which allows you to screw them onto the body of the Kombi without making any holes :)

Don't know the cost of the scoops as I've always had them form when I purchased the Kombi. I got replacement clips through Volksbahn at Pendle Hill (02) 9688 2933 so they may be able to tell you the price.
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posted on January 15th, 2004 at 05:33 PM


Yes, you rivet them on, and no, they have never caused my carbies to freeze up at the snow.

I bought mine from Alec, I think they were like $35/pair plus freight, but that was quite a while ago....




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