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Forged Aluminiun front end parts...
Hey everyone!
Does anyone know if there are forged alloy trailing arms and/or spindles for beetle balljoint front ends?
Or anyone who could make these light weight parts up?
Cheers,
Cam
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| posted on February 8th, 2004 at 07:32 PM |
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i haven't heard of anyone making these bits.... i like the idea, though the longevity of them mightn't be the best (well depending on how
they are made).
along these lines it would be nice if CB sold thier dropped spindles with the correct spindles for mounting porsche brakes with porsche bearings... no
spacers/machining needed.
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| posted on February 8th, 2004 at 07:39 PM |
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I know it's not spindles or trailing arms (titanium would be nice) but Richard at V-Force has Alfa brakes & rotors I think on the front of
Dieters car (green beetle) & they weigh considerably less than standard whilst being bigger than standard.
Just a thought.
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
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| posted on February 9th, 2004 at 10:03 PM |
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Jak,
I'm pretty sure the rotors are 944 with the Alfa Brakes.....
Alex, can you confirm?
Still your right though, lighter than stock!!
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| posted on February 10th, 2004 at 12:14 PM |
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mmmmm... titanium *drools* Apparently there are all different grade and types of titanium availabe. The koenigsegg uses one type in the rear subframe.
So, anyone know people in the aerospace industry?  Perhaps we can do a
group buy or something, a'la roof racks 
I've seen lots of forged alloy suspension components in sports and supercars lately. Also V8 supercars use alloy parts as did Brock's Targa
Tassie monaro.
Thought something may of been available for beetles.
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| posted on February 22nd, 2004 at 03:10 PM |
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Hi Cam,
Be very careful about using aluminium parts on the front end of your car. I investigated it once and was looking at the jaymar and some other brand
front ends.
They have a disclaimer if you read the fine print that they are not recommended for use on street or full bodied sedans. THis is because of the weight
of the cars, and the fact that aluminium work hardens and then cracks!
All of the aluminium parts that I've seen were all for sand buggies.
If your goal is trying to improve the unsprung weight of the suspension components to promote better handling, probably the biggest weight saving you
would get would be adapting a porsche 996 brake system and using 944 calipers. Alloy discs and calipers, are very light compared to the 944 ventilated
discs.
Then use a light weight wheel like an original 911 fuch magnesium alloy wheel.
Just a suggestion...
Ian.
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| posted on February 23rd, 2004 at 06:42 AM |
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Hi Ian,
Thanks for the info. I was planning on leaving the front beam standard. Since it's a good tough factory unit and we need all the weight under the
nose that we can get. However, I was looking at some off-road parts for the trailing arms and spindles. Mainly from the classes where they don't
allow lengthed torsion arms. Apparently they use very lightened items
My girlfriends 350Z has 3D laser cut alloy wishbones. They look fantastic when you look underneath the car. I'm assuming a major manufacturer
would'nt put these items on a car if they were going to break after long amounts of use.
I'm planning on using 968 rear trailing arms and may be using something very special for the brakes, if a mate of mine still has the contacts
Cheers,
Cam
P.S. Welcome to the racers forum:thumb. The car in your signature looks mad! Got anymore pics?
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| posted on March 5th, 2004 at 12:47 AM |
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Cam
I made a Chromoly beam (2.125x0.156-in. wall) and 4130 chromoly trailing arms. This makes it stronger and lighter.
Regard’s
Moose
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| posted on March 5th, 2004 at 08:26 PM |
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Very cool, Moose.
How much of a weight saving did you find in comparison to the standard trailing arms?
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| posted on March 6th, 2004 at 12:01 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Cam
Very cool, Moose.
How much of a weight saving did you find in comparison to the standard trailing arms?
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Not that much with the arms because 4" longer and 1 1/2" wider but heaps from the beam. I also use tube shock towers
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| posted on March 11th, 2004 at 02:02 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Desert Moose
Cam
I made a Chromoly beam (2.125x0.156-in. wall) and 4130 chromoly trailing arms. This makes it stronger and lighter.
Regard’s
Moose
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| posted on March 11th, 2004 at 11:46 AM |
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Very cool! :thumb
Thats some wicked shock travel on there too.
Are the spindles also custom made?
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| posted on March 12th, 2004 at 12:37 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Very cool! :thumb
Thats some wicked shock travel on there too.
Are the spindles also custom made?
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Travel is total of 18" (fair dinkum) .
Yes the spindles are 44mm jumbo stub's they come standard or 50mm drop with 18mm or 22mm link pins. Cost is $800 Aus a pair
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