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 BiX
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 08:24 AM |
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Type 3 Rear Torsion Bars
Can any one tell me what the different sizes of type 3 rear torison bars are? eg was a heavier one used in the wagon? also which ones fit the beetle
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Just having problems with the rear end lifting inside wheels out of corners on the track and loosing the ability to put power down.
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 08:46 AM |
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LSD is the answer - few bucks though. Cant help with the T3 bits.
I had a 2180 with an open diff, now a 2110 with an LSD, the difference out of corners is unreal, especially in gravel and loose stuff.
What about the poor mans posi, shim up the side gears tight in the diff ???
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BiX
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 08:55 AM |
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Would love lsd, mabye next year when I have a bit more money :thumb
But I can get sets of T3 bars easy and get them in the car this weekend before the next meet. The LSD will go in when I get the gb rebuilt.
(how much does a LSD weigh? Got a friend going to the US soon for holidays, is it lite enough to go in a suit case? What LSD do you have and where did
u get it?) was thinking of locking the diff, but its a daily driver to, so don't want a locked diff on teh street.)
[Edited on 24-3-2004 by BiX]
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 09:04 AM |
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Ive got a ZF - Contact brucetweddle@canada.com , he'll sort you out - It cost me about 1300 NZ$ landed from memory.
LSDs are carry on luggage, shortblocks in the suitcase... LSD weighs about 16lbs from memory.
T3 torsion bars are 27 and 28mm I think.... but Im guessing, the heavier ones are definitely in the squares.
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farbs
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 10:53 AM |
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The Wagon T3 bars are the heavier ones and they do fit in beetle I.R.S. Direct swap!
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 02:40 PM |
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Anyone out there got experience with this swap ? how does the car drive afterwards ?
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 05:06 PM |
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yep Type 3 rear bars are the best for racing
I have a set if yr interested $100.00 plus ship
This mod has been done before heaps of times.
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 05:42 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by farbs
The Wagon T3 bars are the heavier ones and they do fit in beetle I.R.S. Direct swap!
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Got em on mine. It drives great, but I don't know what it was like before...
[Edited on 25-3-2004 by Oasis]
"Tell him 'We've already got one'"
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 05:46 PM |
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I don't have type 3 torsion bars on mine & it's fine.
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 07:57 PM |
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Hi
The original ones are 22mm, wagon ones are 23.5, well worth effort.
1302Steve
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| posted on March 25th, 2004 at 08:07 PM |
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hate to hi jack a post but what about the front are all type 3 front bars the some
i thirt of some thing funny and stupid to write here then i forgot it
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BiX
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| posted on March 26th, 2004 at 09:37 AM |
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Hi steve is that the original L bug ones are 22mm? and the t3 wagon are 23.5mm?
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| posted on March 26th, 2004 at 10:22 AM |
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If I had the cash I'd be keen dave, but I will hang on until I can afford a set of lowered front springs and do all 4 corners at the same time.
Oh, another hijack question  how much lower can you go with standard
length shockies and without moving spring pedestals ?
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| posted on March 26th, 2004 at 04:13 PM |
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Hi
Yep L bug & supers use 22mm ones.
I’m pretty sure the wagons have heavier fronts than fastbacks & notches, my VW parts cd wont work on XP so I cant check.
To use all of the available shock length I used Mk1 golf bump stops and cut them down to take the stock dust cover, you should be able to lower about
2-3 inches.
1302Steve
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| posted on March 29th, 2004 at 10:40 AM |
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hey BIX are you using a sway bar on the rear of that car when you race?
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BiX
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| posted on March 29th, 2004 at 01:04 PM |
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Yep running a a rear sway bar, which I know will help lift inside wheels, but it has really balanced the car up alot, so am trying the lower ride
height eith stiffer torsion bars. Got 2 sets to play with a 23 and 24mm sets.
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| posted on March 30th, 2004 at 01:37 PM |
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i had a 24mm sway bar on the back of mine which was lifting the wheel resulting in no traction so i got rid of the sway bar and solved the problem.
try that and see what happens
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BiX
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| posted on March 30th, 2004 at 03:33 PM |
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Thats the problem I face. I even found without the sway bar I was lifting inside rear wheels. So i went and played with the sway bar and the car is
now how I like it over steer, under steer wise, but still have the inside wheel lifting like before.
I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
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