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| posted on May 10th, 2004 at 10:52 PM |
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more body off the bug questions!
Hi!
I'm planning to take the body off my 69 bug and replace the pan, rather than having new halves welded in (good chance to do it properly). I found a
few posts on body removal, so I have an idea of what i'm letting myself in for, and what needs doing
I'm wondering
A) how long would this usually take - I'll only be able to work on it a couple of days a weekend, and I'll be on a time limit of a month for the
garage space - is it a 2/3 day job or a lot longer?
B) is it possible to lift the body off using people power - if I take the wings, bonnet, boot etc off??
C) do I need any special tools?
I'm preparing as much as possible in advance - removing bolts and greasing them up before putting them back, stripping the interior, labeling the
wiring loom etc etc so I'll know that everything will come apart easily when I start!
any advice from those of you that have gone through this before would be most appreciated
cheers
Terry
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My other car is a scooter, and it's in even more bits than my beetle. One day they will both be back together.......
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waltermitty
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| posted on May 11th, 2004 at 04:24 PM |
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At least 4 people, remove all guards and panels, with air tools its a comfortable one day jobbie 2 casses beer and a BBQ for the helpers. For a first
timer with reasonable skills , dont forget the earth from the battery and the speedo cable I did . See sams exellent sight for some great inside info
and lotts of pics of the proceedure.
http://vwfool.tk/
Mitchell:thumb
[Edited on 11-5-2004 by waltermitty]
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battybat
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| posted on May 11th, 2004 at 04:31 PM |
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sounds good - no air tools though, so I'll add a day to that!
cheers
terry
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My other car is a scooter, and it's in even more bits than my beetle. One day they will both be back together.......
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| posted on May 11th, 2004 at 05:21 PM |
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if I take the wings, bonnet, boot etc off??
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You must be going to work on a Jumbo Jet.... WINGS
In Aussie we have Mudguards.
1 Remove the seats front and rear
2 remove doors
3 remove fuel tank
4 unbolt sides 13 mm heads 8 each side
5 unbolt 4 fron t17mm head bolts
6 undo 2 bolts on front beaver in fuel tank area
7 undo rear shock tower bolts 17mm
8 undo 17mm bolts on rear seat support
9 undo 13mm head bolts on rear frame near battery
10 get a garage jack n block of wood jack under side of car to break seal
11 disconnect steering coloum n speedo cable
12 get 3 other strong guys like your self and lift body off and onto some stands
use some lengths of wood 3 x 2 for instance and slide under the body front n rear makes it easier to lift
Stand back n drink beer
hows that
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| posted on May 11th, 2004 at 05:34 PM |
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I did it in a day on my own, no air tools, 1 jack and at the end 5 minutes of 3 people helping.
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| posted on May 11th, 2004 at 05:47 PM |
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I'm with you DID !
2 hours to remove all the bolts, left the guards on, removed the doors. 4 people to lift!!!
If you remove all the guards and doors etc add about another 3 hours and then you only need two people.
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| posted on May 11th, 2004 at 05:52 PM |
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2 people for a bare bug shell 4 people for a car with guards bonnet n stuff fitted...
+ at least 1 cartoon of beer
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| posted on May 11th, 2004 at 06:16 PM |
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check my tech tips section for some more info as well
http://vwfool.tk
we found the oval bodies to be much heavier than later models.
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One man's junk...
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| posted on May 11th, 2004 at 07:03 PM |
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Dave Ill see your 1 additional carton of beer and raize you another, plus dancing girls!
Yeah must be a steak in every beer you have Dave as they say or sams right, lifting the oval shell alone I glad there was 4 of us.
Mitchell:beer
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| posted on May 12th, 2004 at 05:14 PM |
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Mitch
Yep i will raise you another carton + 2 Tee Bones.
Yeah 2 eggs n a sirlion in every carton.
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| posted on May 12th, 2004 at 07:17 PM |
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I'm all fired up!
will fetch the pan this weekend I think and get the prep work done on it, and start unbolting stuff - the interior is out already apart from the
drivers seat
as I have no roof it should be lighter than the average bug too!
sounds like a good excuse for a party - take all the bits off, then get the boys round to do the lifting and reward them with a cerimonial burning of
some bits of cow, and some fizzy pop
Mitchell - you're on the beaches too? which bit? I'm in fairlight, what are you driving? I'll keep my eyes out!
thanks for the advice everyone, i'll post pix of the whole process in my topic on members rides - I have plans for the beast!
cheers!
terry
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| posted on May 12th, 2004 at 08:32 PM |
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Yo Terry I didnt notice your locality i am at North Narrabeen and my daily is a birch green and lotus white 64 delux 13 window microbus.
If you need any help im hoples but i am in the area
0422 802 199
Mitchell
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| posted on May 12th, 2004 at 09:00 PM |
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g'day terry,
mate here are a few pics of the off the pan job that i had done on my 76 bug.
To get the body off and elevated, motor switched from pan to pan and new pan slid under, it took only two people.
But it was a lot of stuffing around.
The other people come in handy when you realign to body to the pan.
Lee.
some people are like slinky's
they have no useful purpose
but they are fun to watch
when you push them down the stairs
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| posted on May 13th, 2004 at 12:07 AM |
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cheers mitchell!
I used to be trundling up old pittwater road to Newport on a daily basis, but am now working at Frenchs Forest
i'm OK with the spanners, but the job is going to be fun in a single garage, so may need muscles!
my plan is to take the body off and 'park' it in the lane on blocks while I strip the old pan and rebuild all the bits back onto the new one, so
it's going to be a case of lift and carry with the body!
will keep a look out for you
and thanks for the pix Lee - gives me some ideas!
terry
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| posted on May 13th, 2004 at 07:21 PM |
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glad they helped mate.
Good luck.
some people are like slinky's
they have no useful purpose
but they are fun to watch
when you push them down the stairs
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