Board Logo
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
[ Total Views: 817 | Total Replies: 17 | Thread Id: 25495 ]
Author: Subject: Moulding Badges..
Memberkillakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced

posted on July 4th, 2004 at 12:42 PM
Moulding Badges..


does anyone know a good method of making a mould of a badge? the VW badge font is impossible to replicate, and i would like to make a mould of my badge incase of theft.. as it is possible the only one in Aust.. and i would like to get one up to scone NSW for Lee ;)

i was thinking a 1 piece mould of the front in plaster of paris, and filling with aluminium.. is this possible? i know nothing about melting down aluminium or plaster of paris.. but they came to mind pretty quickly. the badge i want to replicate has a script font in it also.. so VERY difficult to "copy" from sight.

if successful, might be worth making moulds of all known VW badges incase one needs to be replicated pretty cheaply

any ideas? any input very welcome!




Tagedeezee Heezy
MemberBiX
Veteran Volks Folk
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2499
Threads: 154
Registered: September 2nd, 2002
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 4th, 2004 at 01:08 PM


what baout getting a digital (read electronic outline) outline made , which then can be used for cutting new badges using laser/waterjet?

you may even be able to do this form a good quility photo?




I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
Memberkillakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced

posted on July 4th, 2004 at 01:15 PM


are you able to replicate the tapered edges that way though? the badges arnt 2d.. yanno what i mean?



Tagedeezee Heezy
MemberBiX
Veteran Volks Folk
*****


Avatar


Posts: 2499
Threads: 154
Registered: September 2nd, 2002
Member Is Offline

Location: Brisbane
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 4th, 2004 at 03:09 PM


yep i know what you mean. you may be able to if you get a good draftsman to do it. and get it drawn in 3d then you just need a lazer cutter that works in 3d.

might be easier to mould it. what baout talking to professional caster/forgers?

what baout sand moulding?




I have no sympathy for my car, only the wallet that pays for it!
Go hard or go home!!!!
Memberbaybuscamperkid
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
prince of insufficient light, ruler of heck
*******


Avatar


Posts: 4316
Threads: 335
Registered: August 25th, 2002
Member Is Offline

Location: Victoria
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: transported

posted on July 4th, 2004 at 05:46 PM


i have an article somewhere on a liquid rubber made especially for this purpose. just sink your badge into it, let it dry, then remove your badge and pour some metal (pewter or similar) and u have a new badge.



Reimagined/Recycled/Upcycled Cool
Memberkillakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced

posted on July 4th, 2004 at 07:23 PM


bay bus could u look that up for me?



Tagedeezee Heezy
Memberkillakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced

posted on July 11th, 2004 at 06:07 PM


wwell i'v tried plaster - dosent work :(..

emptied a whole tube of silicon sealant into a tray and stuck thebadge in.. will give it a week or so.. probably even longer untill it sets, then i will try filling the mould with a metallic filler.. if that fails, i'll get somone else to make up like 50 or so :)




Tagedeezee Heezy
Memberbaybuscamperkid
Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber
prince of insufficient light, ruler of heck
*******


Avatar


Posts: 4316
Threads: 335
Registered: August 25th, 2002
Member Is Offline

Location: Victoria
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: transported

posted on July 12th, 2004 at 12:20 PM


Performance Buildups Vol-3 No-2
3120 RTV or Elastosil M4470 with T37 catalyst - rubber for the mould
chemical mould release to get the original back out
Talcom powder the mould so metal doesnt stick
JA12 (can be chromed) or Pewter (cannot be chromed) - metal for new badge

beneath the article is an add for Solid Solutionsin Bentleigh Vic (tel. 95790573) who can probably give you better qadvice and provide the equipment to set you up.




Reimagined/Recycled/Upcycled Cool
Memberkillakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced

posted on July 12th, 2004 at 06:29 PM


thanks cheif :)



Tagedeezee Heezy
Member1303Steve
A.k.a.: Steve Carter
Scirocco Rare
*********


Avatar


Posts: 8636
Threads: 559
Registered: August 27th, 2002
Member Is Offline

Location: Sydney, NSW
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Parrot Heading

posted on July 12th, 2004 at 09:52 PM


Hi

Ive seen a few of those badges at swaps, they were fitted to imported cabrios I guess. Richard @ V Force (Alexs dad) has been getting some cool badges profile cut, like VW2232 etc.

1302Steve
Memberkillakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced

posted on July 13th, 2004 at 06:50 PM


the badge i have is from the first 6 months of the 68 production year of Auto-Sticks in Germany (all auto sticks were made there.. and only the VERY first 6 months worth have the badge)..

the rest changed to VW-Automatic.. some others are around in Oz ihaveheard.. but not in one piece unfortunatley :(

im lucky enough to have a whole one, with the VW logo on the back, with part number.. so i know it is an original, not a repro..

the plan is to make some up, to keep on the car, keep the real one safe, and get one out to anyone with an Auto-Stick who would like one :)




Tagedeezee Heezy
MemberClintooo
Learner Dubber
*


No Avatar


Posts: 1
Threads: 0
Registered: July 13th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Perth
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )

posted on July 14th, 2004 at 11:47 AM


This isn’t really an answer, but it is the best I can do.

I remember watching on Cruzin (Hot rod show on channel 31 in perth) a segment on a product that will let you replicate badges and other plastic trim pieces. It was a two step process.

Make the mould with a two part epoxy like playdoh, just press the badge into it. It hardens in a couple of minutes.

Then I think you pour another epoxy into the mould and pop it out when it is dry. The finished product is then paintable etc.

However, that is as far as my memory goes. I cant remember what it was called. I have tried a google search for it but I couldn’t turn anything up.

Maybe someone else can remember something about it.


Clint
MemberVw nutter
Wolfsburg Wizard
***


No Avatar


Posts: 661
Threads: 148
Registered: June 7th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Chillin

posted on July 15th, 2004 at 02:31 PM


maybe you could make a mould out of plasta and then fill with pewter? might work ive dont it before with other similar things.
Memberkillakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced

posted on July 15th, 2004 at 07:07 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by killakornkobb
wwell i'v tried plaster - dosent work :(..




because of the script it gets stuck very eaisily, and how fragile the badge is, it is impossible to get it out of the plaster, with out breaking the plaster off it..

almost snapped the badge trying to get it out :(




Tagedeezee Heezy
MemberVw nutter
Wolfsburg Wizard
***


No Avatar


Posts: 661
Threads: 148
Registered: June 7th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Chillin

posted on July 16th, 2004 at 01:27 PM


maybe you could get some sort of spray or grease that make the badge come off the plaster and doesnt stick to it, might work, maybe vaseline, i dunno really but i hope u find a way.
MemberWhitty
Seriously Crusin Dubber
**


Avatar


Posts: 124
Threads: 28
Registered: September 29th, 2003
Member Is Offline

Location: Gladstone,Central Qld
Theme: XMBX Pro Green
Mood: so happy I could shit

posted on July 16th, 2004 at 04:25 PM


If you can find someone that does sand moulding and casting, they will have a new one made that is identical to the original in about 2hours tops. I work at an aluminium smelter, and used to "find" ;) a whole heap of scrap aluminium for a bloke in town who had his own mini cast shop in his shed. He could melt it down and cast it to any shape you wanted as long as he had something to copy - ie. could make a sand mould of the object. No harm done to original and new one a perfect replica. I'm sure in the sunny metropolis of Melbourne you would be able to find someone doing the same sort of hobby out of their backyard.......
Memberkillakornkobb
A.k.a.: Damien
Custom Title Time!
where's that clutch?
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1663
Threads: 149
Registered: March 28th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: Rowville, Melbourne
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Pierced

posted on July 16th, 2004 at 06:48 PM


im going to try and do the plaster again.. but put some glad wrap over the soft plaster before i push the badge in.. but first i have to get all this damn silicon off the badge:) i tried the other night after work.. but the turps smell pissed everyone off :(



Tagedeezee Heezy
MemberAdam_C
Custom Title Time!
*****


No Avatar


Posts: 1180
Threads: 164
Registered: May 22nd, 2003
Member Is Offline

Location: Bargo, 1hr south of syd
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: could be lower

posted on October 9th, 2004 at 03:47 PM


maye, duno if youve looked, but classic vw make repro badges like that



Adam
Adzslick@iprimus.com.au
Memberancientbugger
Custom Title Time!
*****


Avatar


Posts: 1986
Threads: 191
Registered: March 24th, 2004
Member Is Offline

Location: sunshine coast
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Yellow

posted on October 10th, 2004 at 07:53 PM


If you know of any old hot metal printers around they could make a neg of the badge and then produce what was called a 1/4 inch zinco! I did this some years ago in England with a karmann ghia script badge then ran off about 10 and got them all chromed,
MemberHerbie
Insano Dub Head
53 Bugs are not nearly enough
****


Avatar


Posts: 764
Threads: 51
Registered: September 3rd, 2002
Member Is Offline

Location: GoldCoast
Theme: UltimaBB Pro Blue ( Default )
Mood: Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.Utinam logica falsa tuam philos

posted on October 11th, 2004 at 04:21 AM


Send it to me before you destroy the badge,
I do this sort of thing all the time, I would be happy to make a mould for you.

dont let silicone sealant set on the badge or it will be history.




62 Ragtop Herbie with a little extra oomph.


  Go To Top


Powered by GaiaBB, © 2011 The GaiaBB Group
(C) 2001-2024 Aussieveedubbers

[ Queries: 40 ] [ PHP: 16.4% - SQL: 83.6% ]