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| posted on July 15th, 2004 at 06:19 PM |
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manifold warming
ok i just had the 34 pict on the roadster rebuilt and the carby guy said the air return tubes on the manifold must be blocked as the carby is really
cold even at normal operating temp. now this is causing me dramas in tuning as tuned right the car runs great but in early morning driving in winter
ie now the cold weather never allows the car to idle properly and as i drive to work at 6 in the morning it is a pita as it stalls any time at idle.
the carby guy said i could do a mod where u wrap a wire around the manifold below the carby to heat the manifold. Can anyone out there give detailed
instructions on how to do this ( a diagram would be helpful) please help please please am desperate to get car running smoothly
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| posted on July 15th, 2004 at 07:37 PM |
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there is a devive you can buy that is a heater you wrap around the manifold that adds heat.
I have heard mixed reponses about hese. IMDU or something they are called.
As an electrician i cant really see how that much heat would do any thing.
You are better off getting a good 2nd hand manifold and cleaning out the tubes and replacing what you have.
Do you have a stock exhaust???
If you have an after market header it will never work properly as the heat riser take off are all wrong.
Really only works properly on a stock exhaust
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| posted on July 16th, 2004 at 12:14 AM |
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I have done this and it works very well , but you need to make a housing * block for the * finger heater to fit *This I clamped to inlet manifold
worked a treat.
I just wired it to a switch on the dash , turn it on when you wish to .
You need the block or the heater will just get too hot and shit its self , so I got real smart and fitted a simastat * the bit were you would ajust
the heat seting* from an old oven .this was found on the side of the road .I made a box with the dial , so I could then ajust the heat .
the one I use is from a company called RS components ,it was around $50.00
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| posted on July 16th, 2004 at 07:15 AM |
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you would be better off investing your money in a new mainfold.
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| posted on July 16th, 2004 at 09:44 AM |
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Check out Rob and Daves VW pages for the procedure to clean the blocked manifold tube (also lots of other good stuff!!).
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Lane/1970/
Have you got the pipe that brings warm air into the air cleaner? That will also be a big help in cold weather.
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| posted on July 16th, 2004 at 10:26 AM |
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My Son runs a Holley Bugspray with a different manifold and He has BIG problems during our -3C etc mornings and nights.
Sometimes the carby just freezes up altogether....
Where do You get these heaters from Neil ??
Where are RS components located??
Most used manifolds I see are either blocked or cut off ....
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| posted on July 16th, 2004 at 11:10 AM |
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cheers
um cheers guys i actually have a spare manifold lying about ,although it looks like it will require some serious cleaning and now i can see why this
blockage would be a problem. cheers david
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| posted on July 16th, 2004 at 08:48 PM |
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rs components are in all states , I get you the number if you like , neil
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| posted on July 16th, 2004 at 10:57 PM |
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My poor little buggy was giving me trouble last winter one morning. I stopped to see if everything looked OK and found the botton inch of the carbie
covered in ice.
Took off the manifold to clean it and guess what? Clean. Since I don't drive in winter much I put up with it and it only seems to effect the idle
anyway so it's not a big problem.
I'm not sure that a heater below the carbie is a good idea though. How hot does it get when it's turned on?
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| posted on July 17th, 2004 at 12:28 AM |
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It has to pretty darn hot to warm up the fuel before it freezes up the carby.... also the warm air from below the engine should be hooked to the air
cleaner in the winter to feed it warm air...
Neil,
Yes, Let Me know where RS components are in NSW...
My Son needs one urgently... I'll have to make up a rheostat to adjust it.... or just use some resistance... if they don't last when connected all
the time...
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| posted on July 17th, 2004 at 10:51 AM |
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Lee I have found a 240 volt one in the shed , all you need is a very long extension lead !:thumb
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| posted on July 17th, 2004 at 10:58 AM |
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Knowing My Son, He would probably run over the lead Neil ???
so that wouldn't work...
Lee
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| posted on July 17th, 2004 at 01:03 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by manxed69
Took off the manifold to clean it and guess what? Clean. Since I don't drive in winter much I put up with it and it only seems to effect the idle
anyway so it's not a big problem.
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my GUESS is you are running extractors and the take off points where your heat risers join the holes are not drilled out.
Even if they are they are both at the same pressure point and you wount get a flow - only a pulse back and forth. Better than nothing but not like the
good Doctor invented
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| posted on July 17th, 2004 at 01:46 PM |
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well, on the 'exit' side (the left?) you could use a gasket with a smaller hole in it to reduce the pressure on that side perhaps?
...and Robert's ya father's brother...
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