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 Secoh
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| posted on September 13th, 2004 at 08:16 PM |
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FYI big brake superbug conversion
im looking at something that may very well work, using a complete strut assembly and lower ball joint from....another car (jap) which'll give me some
nice big brakes indeed!
i'll post pics as soon as I have it trial fitted in place, but it looks like it's gonna work.  (yes I'm a bastard  )
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| posted on September 18th, 2004 at 12:20 PM |
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Ive seen skyline brakes on a 1302 ---- that wouldnt be it ??
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| posted on September 19th, 2004 at 01:12 PM |
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nah, im going much cheaper. I test sat it all in place and it looks like it'll work fine once I have fitted a coil over kit to the strut and modified
the lower control arm for the larger ball joint. I'll upload some pics when I get a minute. the rotor is a 25mm x 250mm vented unit.
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| posted on September 22nd, 2004 at 01:02 PM |
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sweeet, show us
YOU HAVE JUST BEEN DAKED
don't worry it's a VW thing
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 10:16 AM |
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come on then dont leave us all waiting in suspense !
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 11:18 AM |
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muuaahahah!
yeah I'll post pics when I get home tonite.
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:00 PM |
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Ok, here it is just loosely sitting in place
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:02 PM |
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Here it is laying next to a stock strut.
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:04 PM |
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and in situ again. I've located a shorter strut with coil overs already fitted so should work a treat with a spring change. I'll be going larger
rotors and calipers, I mainly want to set up the hubs first, everything else hangs off that.
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:05 PM |
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Hmmm, more adjustable camber, too... Good thinking, ninety-nine. A jap, RWD five-stud? Let me have a think about that....
[Edited on 23-9-2004 by VWCOOL]
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:08 PM |
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And a close-up.
By using a FWD hub and the end of the drive shaft to secure it (once I have machined the cup off it) it should be a lot stiffer than the stock
spindle. Also the bottom ball joint is about 4 times the size as the stock superbug one.
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:09 PM |
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it's a FWD strut assembly, not RWD
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:11 PM |
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Ahhh... okay then. I actually thought it was Camry at first, the wrongly assumed it was RWD
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:13 PM |
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actually, you hit the nail on the head, it is camry! I was going to use magna, but the camry not only has the upside down ball joint, it has a second
camber adjustment on the top hub bolt.
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| posted on September 23rd, 2004 at 09:48 PM |
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That means you can run WRX rims! Fullly siick!:P
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| posted on September 24th, 2004 at 07:26 AM |
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or camry ones..... :puke
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| posted on September 24th, 2004 at 08:19 AM |
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Yep thats a good idea... go for it
Keep up the good work.
do u need rear blank hubs ?? to redrill same stud pattern
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| posted on September 24th, 2004 at 10:08 AM |
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Secoh
Nice!!
Probably lighter than my old 944 set up to, and a huge number of good looking wheels to choose from at reasonable prices.
Are you going to complement the fronts with the Falcon rears?
What are the stud pattern differences?
Anyone know what the piston sizes are?
You mention bigger calipers- are these upgradeable from something else in the Toyota range?
And another thought that springs to mind, can you use the standard speedo cable through the centre of the remaining part of the drive shaft?
Cunning!! Keep us posted.
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| posted on September 24th, 2004 at 10:13 AM |
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I'm going to be using a digital speedo so I'm not worrying about that for myself.
Supra and Celica (such as GT4) may well be interchangable with calipers. I haven't looked yet.
Stud pattern is same as falcon and hiace/hilux and 11tybillion others, 114.5mm.
Rear brakes I haven't looked at yet. One crisis at a time
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| posted on September 26th, 2004 at 02:43 PM |
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don't machine the drive flange off,
make it awd! 
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| posted on September 26th, 2004 at 04:34 PM |
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haha believe me the thought crossed my mind! and if I could locate an AWD transaxle that would suit for reasonable $$$ it would have been the plan!
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| posted on September 26th, 2004 at 10:38 PM |
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Looking good ! I would never have guessed Camry.... actually I would never have guessed Camry struts were good for anything.......
Coupla questions....
1). How have you arranged the bottom mounting point of the strut ? Are these for the early (3 bolt) or late (2 bolt) strut setups ?
2). Steering rod setup etc ? Does the camry hub mean that you need modified length steering rods ?
Looks great. Will be nice in the end I think.
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| posted on September 26th, 2004 at 11:58 PM |
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sure, here's my take on it so far:
1.) The lower ball joint is the later "upside down" two bolt type, so it means a redrilling of the tapered hole in the lower control arm. I'm
planning on making my own adjustable arms anyway so I'm not too stressed about it at the moment, but it looks like it might be ok with some
adjustable strut tops to get the camber right.
2.) Steering rods are so far looking right, other than the SB tie rod end taper being too small. If the stock steering is to be used then different
tie rod ends will be needed. I'm still at this stage hoping to use a camira rack.
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| posted on November 4th, 2004 at 02:40 PM |
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Secoh
Any progress reports?
Can I ask, have you swapped sides. I had a look around a number of FWD cars up at pick a part in the weekend and noticed that the steering arm
generally came off the back of the steering knuckle and the calliper was mounted to the front. Opposite to the VW.
Does swaping sides alter the geometry at all?
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| posted on November 9th, 2004 at 10:51 AM |
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I'm still fiddling with it all. Yes swapping sides messes up the geometry in a big way, part of why the camry ones were what I chose.
Looks like I'll be cutting the camry strut down to fit coil-overs. my biggest problem is my lack of time due to the house renovations. 
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