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 skybluepaul
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| posted on November 19th, 2004 at 09:58 PM |
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Leaded fuel
Can anyone help. As a newly paid up member to the Beetle fraternity, I was very excited about purchasing my 71 1600 convertable. I then tried to buy
some fuel and found that all of the gas stations in my area have decided to discontinue lead replacement fuel. I know this is probably the most basic
question ever but I'm sorry!! Can you fill up on premium unleaded and does it end up burning your valves etc. Any advice would be much appreciated |
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| posted on November 19th, 2004 at 10:03 PM |
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yes but add some valve master to your tank or you will burn valves
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| posted on November 19th, 2004 at 10:14 PM |
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and btw welcome to the forum, your life has just changed in a big way:thumb
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| posted on November 20th, 2004 at 09:16 AM |
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Has any used the Lucas lead replacement before?
Or is the valve master stuff the best to use on a vw engine?
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| posted on November 20th, 2004 at 11:02 AM |
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I use premium unleaded with some valve master each time i fill up.:thumb
Oh....Snap.....!
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| posted on November 20th, 2004 at 11:36 AM |
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i judt use two stroke oil.
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| posted on November 20th, 2004 at 02:08 PM |
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i use flashlube and have for 2 years works great
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| posted on November 20th, 2004 at 05:47 PM |
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you do not need any additives with premium unleaded or regular unleaded in VW's
Unless you have shares in the additive company or too much money
I have run PU for 5 years without any additives and without any trouble.
Keeping it real !
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| posted on November 23rd, 2004 at 01:22 PM |
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Welcome, there's all good advice up there, so decide for your self. Go the dak daks.
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| posted on November 27th, 2004 at 03:12 PM |
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I use Premium unleaded and add "Red X Lead Replacement" AND "Shell Advanced Racing M" 2 stroke oil..
My motor is still very fresh and doesn't miss a beat.. |
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| posted on November 27th, 2004 at 03:33 PM |
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I use an additive when I remeber........ |
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| posted on December 2nd, 2004 at 04:40 AM |
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hey, welcome to the club. I have been filling with optimax or ultimate which is the shell and bp range of premium unleaded and adding flashlube. I
have not had a problem to date and to be honest my beetle is getting 8.5litre per 100km's. Best it ever has so things are only getting better. Thats
8.5 litres per 100km's driving my style 
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| posted on December 7th, 2004 at 07:35 AM |
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mate u can buy a 90 dollar fuel converter from repco, lets u use unleaded or premium all the time. thats the way out for people who cant afford $1.30
a litre for fuel!
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| posted on December 8th, 2004 at 04:16 PM |
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Volkswagen Engines have always had hardened valve seats
can You imagine a valve seating in Aluminium-Magnesium alloy?? It wouldn't last too long...
Same with valve guides....
What is the 90 dollar Repco fuel converter???
Lee --
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| posted on December 8th, 2004 at 04:25 PM |
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Well it may be $1.20 or $1.30 a litre but my car gets 20% better fuel economy and it doesn't ping, so it ends up costing exactly the same and is
better for the car. Some cars don't need the higher octane though, but I do. Best to try a fuel economy experiment on your own car and see if it
makes a difference. I only use Ultimate or Optimax too, and no valve anything. It's been fine for 2 years, and the engine is apart at the moment.
It's all fine.
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| posted on December 8th, 2004 at 05:14 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
What is the 90 dollar Repco fuel converter???
Lee --
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| posted on December 8th, 2004 at 05:29 PM |
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Does it really change regular unleaded into Premium High Octane Unleaded????
All for $90... WOW...
thanks Oasis for the info on Your engine...
looks like the way to go... for sure...
Lee
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| posted on December 9th, 2004 at 12:44 PM |
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I have retracted the info i gave because i have been enlightened by someone.
I will never use optimax again, But use it if you like it and you aren't having any dramas with it.
[Edited on 21-12-2004 by manx_xtc]
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| posted on December 28th, 2004 at 02:21 PM |
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Our dub mechanic recommended using premium when we asked him about the converter.
He said he wouldn't put the conversion kit in our beetle as it is a waste of money and he runs all his dubs on premium.
Only just started using premium but she seems to be running pretty damn good.
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| posted on December 28th, 2004 at 06:01 PM |
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i got a converter and still run ultimate from bp get about 600km to a tank
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| posted on December 28th, 2004 at 08:38 PM |
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Been using plain unleaded in the Beetle for a couple of years. Runs no probs.
The Bus has been running premium for 5 years and 100,000 k's Had to take the heads off a while ago and the valves were fine.
No additives.
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| posted on December 29th, 2004 at 08:36 AM |
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Check this link out.
http://www.aussieveedubbers.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=32680#pid277998
Basically because your beetle has hardened valves, you can run unleaded with no additives.
Squiz....
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| posted on December 29th, 2004 at 11:59 PM |
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My little buggy runs OK on unleaded fuel. Since he doesn't come out too often I fugure what the hell and use premium unleaded. It does run OK on
regular unleaded though as well.
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| posted on December 30th, 2004 at 12:12 AM |
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im interested to know what this problem was with BP ultimate as its the only thing i fill up with.
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 posted on December 30th, 2004 at 12:39 AM |
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Flashlube won't stop the dreaded dropped valve**
Using Flashlube or similar products will lubricate the valve stems & guides but it will NOT stop the dreaded dropped valve...
This is when the head of the valve breaks off....
You need to adjust the tappets every 6,000 miles or every 2nd oil change...
This is Not a hard job, get someone to show You how to do it
and Your Volkswagen will love You for it....
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| posted on December 30th, 2004 at 05:47 AM |
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Everyone's talking about valve seats, what about Valve guide's. If this unleaded fuel run's hotter, whats it's flowon effect in this area. When I
got my BMW boxer heads (aluminium) converted they also changed the guide's to a different material, it was explained to me by the head machinist that
it was nessasary and my usual mechanic agree'd.
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| posted on December 31st, 2004 at 05:46 PM |
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Well maybe with the Beemer it was a good idea, but with the old VWs, the engines and hence the valve train were originally designed for running on
standard fuel (now retagged as unleaded) in foreign countries, and in Germany it was planned to be able to run them on carbon monoxide/methane
(producer gas) which had no lubricating properties whatsoever...
Never heard of producer gas or standard petrol? You're not old enough then... Umm, damn, I guess that means I am. Bugger...
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| posted on December 31st, 2004 at 05:53 PM |
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Damm it I have heard of Standard petrol
My forst job was at a BP petrol station and one of the pumps was a mixer........you could have 25% standard and 75% super ans so on !
Now that is showing my age badly |
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| posted on January 1st, 2005 at 12:36 AM |
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Unleaded vrs leaded
If you have a look at the article at http://www.vw-resource.com/leaded.html then I think much of this discussion will be re-solved. Paying too much for petrol
seems like wasting alot of money to me. My 1600cc runs equally well on unleaded as on any premium petrol, so think about it!!!
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| posted on January 1st, 2005 at 03:04 AM |
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I have higher compression so need premium. It pings otherwise. Not everyone does though.
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