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posted on January 29th, 2003 at 08:43 PM |
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booooooost!
Here are some pics of the wagon. Its got a toyota ct12 turbo 10psi and I just aquired a 200sx cooler. I've taken it out once but suffered high
oil temps (don't know why i thought I 'd get away without a bigger oil cooler). With the cooler and stable oil temps more boost!!! I think
I can afford on dead engine at least I can test the limits.
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posted on January 29th, 2003 at 08:45 PM |
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posted on January 29th, 2003 at 08:46 PM |
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posted on January 29th, 2003 at 10:18 PM |
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Looks like a cool setup, but if I were you I'd definately go with an extra oil cooler/s turbos really can cook your oil.
Ooh, suits you sir!
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posted on January 29th, 2003 at 10:33 PM |
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I'm just about to venture into this myself......
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posted on February 2nd, 2003 at 09:23 PM |
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I'm yet to come to any real conclusions other than turbo boost is addictive. I am going to plumb in the intercooler and oil cooler after which I
will know more. I'll keep you posted!
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posted on February 4th, 2003 at 06:05 PM |
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Turbo, thats a nice dream of mine. Im just a bit envious... (Type 3's Rule)
Steve
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posted on February 5th, 2003 at 04:20 PM |
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questions questions questions
other than a turbo, whats it got? carb? injection? Where is the oil from the turbo going? Seems low. How are you scavenging oil? What is the turbo
off originally? looks small so should be lag free.
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posted on February 18th, 2003 at 10:04 PM |
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ruebo oil drains into dipstick pipe. Turbo is a toyota ct12 supposed to be good for 110kW though I think that a TD-03 froma forrester could be a goer
(~135kW). Haltech E6k
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posted on February 18th, 2003 at 11:36 PM |
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Could you email me some more pics?
noh_20@yahoo.com.au
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posted on February 26th, 2003 at 10:55 PM |
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Turbos -r-us!
Nice little install....
Good to see people out there trying something new.....I seem to recall a red fastback back in the early nineties that had a turbo off a Cordia with
twin Dellortos...Doing the rounds...In Victoria, I believe....
Just one tip....Keep in touch with Frazer...He's the current budget turbo god!...His old HELLBUS use to haul.....Haven't seen his fastback
on the road, but I'm sure that sucker scoots too!
One day I'll get my turbo project finished!
Keep it up!
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posted on February 27th, 2003 at 03:58 PM |
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T3T
where abouts have you located the intercooler? are you keeping it air to air, or will you modify it so that its water to air?
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posted on February 28th, 2003 at 11:32 PM |
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Turbo is a toyota ct12 supposed to be good for 110kW though I think that a TD-03 froma forrester could be a goer (~135kW). Haltech E6k
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If that turbo is making enough boost at your rpm limit then leave it at that. My wife keeps telling me that size doesnt matter. But she is wrong. If
you go bigger then you will get more lag. For a street car when you want power on demand for overtaking, use the smaller turbo. The only advantage of
the bigger one would be lower temps. With either turbo set at 10 psi will make the engine will make same horspower.
Im using the E6 as well. Only I think mine is an A.
Have you got any shots of the whole engine?
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posted on March 1st, 2003 at 11:34 AM |
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hey
what is the cost of doin the turbo conversion?????? im thinking of something that will give me around 10-12 psi boost out of a 2L type four? and what
work needs doing to the motor itself to withstand it?
cheerrs
rhys
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posted on March 3rd, 2003 at 09:05 AM |
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How much for turbo conversion? How long is a piece of string? I did the conversion myself, with the help of a talented fabricator. The pipework alone
cost $1300. The engine is pretty much stock. for 10 - 12 psi you would need lower than 8:1 comp, a good fuel system with plenty of fuel pressure, fuel
injection is best, and plenty of spark. I suggest reading some books on turbocharging first. The theory is pretty involved, and you need to match the
turbo size to your needs.
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posted on March 3rd, 2003 at 10:37 AM |
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Your pipework is all very pretty though. Just mild steel pipework is a lot cheaper. $30ish for each bend. I dont think you need to know the theory cos
people like toyota and vw have already done it for you. Just find a turbo off an engine the same size and that part is set. After a turbo, the
EFI/carb is your next big expense. then there's your intercooler. Any EFI fuel pump from a wreckers will do the job. A malpassi rising rate fuel
pressure regulator is about $75 for a carb version. You need to get a pressure retard canister for your dizzy if not controlled by a computer.
I think if you got all bargain 2nd hand stuff you might be able to get away with $2500.
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posted on March 3rd, 2003 at 10:38 AM |
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and a wastegate if not already built into the turbo.
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posted on March 3rd, 2003 at 11:10 AM |
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2 good reasons for stainless or cast instead of mild steel before turbo.
1. rust.
2. heat retention.
A turbo uses heat to help spin.
Theory is very important to gain optimum performance, exhaust pulse, especially on a four cylinder, helps spool up a turbo quicker, turbulence can
affect your high end flow, poor welds and bends can create turbulence. You can fluke a good setup, but why leave it to chance. A poorly thought out
turbo setup will shorten the life of your turbo and restrict performance. It is like using a wiper washer nozzle and pump as a carby, it will work,
but how well.
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posted on March 3rd, 2003 at 08:11 PM |
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The coment re theory was pointed at turbo sizing. But my exhaust has lasted me about 10 years. For $1300 I could make heaps of them. In a baja or
buggy you are blessed in that you can stick with equal length pipes and pulsing, but in the real world sometimes we just have to settle for something
that fits and looks neat.
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posted on March 4th, 2003 at 03:56 PM |
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So, why not make the best of a bad situation? Study up and get your system the closest you can to perfect. There are limits but it is worth the
effort. I originally had this turbo fitted to my buggy with mild steel pipes, no specific plan, and ended up with a lot less horsepower than I have
now. My pipework looking pretty is just a byproduct. Check what all the top turbo installers use. The extra dollars spent here mean less dollars
chasing horsepower from other parts of the engine. And mild steel exhaust after the turbo is fine, It is before your turbo that I worry about . A
chunk of rust almost destroyed my turbo in the first install. I may just be fussy, but that is my opinion.
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posted on March 4th, 2003 at 08:55 PM |
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i have a mate that is the brains haddent had a chance to talk to him (he makes his own intercoolers exhausts and even made a turbo once!!!!)
so hes the brains just tryin to get a figure!
cheers
rhys
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