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| posted on April 28th, 2005 at 10:46 AM |
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Hump or flat engine in my 74 Kombi
I am having someone fit a 1600 in my 74 Kombi. It comes out of a fastback and is a flat engine (different fan setup I think). The one in my kombi is a
1500 "hump" (fan standing upright) engine.
Originally should my Kombi have had a flat engine?
Are there any complications to worry about?
Cheers
Tim
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| posted on April 28th, 2005 at 06:47 PM |
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'74 busses had a type IV pancake motor, an 1800. Like mine. The tinware on the upright type I motor is indeed quite different, and the motor from
the type 3 (that's also a type I motor isn't it?) also has different stuff on it. I don't know about any details though.
It'll work, you just need to make sure you've got the right tinware or the poor thing'll cook, burn and DIE!
Cheers, Aurel.
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| posted on April 29th, 2005 at 12:00 PM |
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Type 3's motors have an intake of fresh air in the front (or the back depending which way you are looking at it), this is connected to the body of
the car via a rubber enclousure, the body area is closed off and brings air in from the top of the car. I think type IV pancake engines are similar
but different. Make sure that whoever is doing it knows about not only 74 busses but also about type3 motors, because of what "aggri1" said, they
will cook very quick.
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| posted on April 29th, 2005 at 12:02 PM |
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Also, isn't a 74 bus heavy? Not sure if you really want to put a type3 motor in there. A stock typeIV would be much better. Other people with
busses will correct me if I am wrong.
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| posted on April 29th, 2005 at 12:58 PM |
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The kombi type IV engine cooling system works on the basis of a sealed engine bay, like a beetle. Cold air is drawn in through the scoops on the side
down into the engine bay, it is then sucked in through the fan, blown over the cylinders and heads and out the bottom. The top and bottom of the
engine are totally separated by the tin ware. Type 3 pancake engines have an open engine bay. They work on the basis of drawing cool air in through
the rubber bellows at the back. I cannot see how you would be able to properly seal the engine bay with a type 3 engine as the tinware will not fit.
Without sealing the engine bay properly, the engine will last about 5 minutes.
Why not have a proper type IV 1800 or 2L engine installed? They are probably a bit more expensive, but have much more power and will last alot longer
in a heavy kombi. Remember that even in a type 3, the 1600 is not exactly fast. In an even heavier kombi you'll be struggling up hills.
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| posted on April 29th, 2005 at 01:04 PM |
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Exactly... what PurpleT3 is what I wanted to say, but I got jumbled within my words.
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| posted on April 29th, 2005 at 02:42 PM |
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Remember the early bays had these though. It'll survive. Even though a splitty might be lighter, it once came with a teeny little engine too!
That said, a typeIV would be a bit more drivable. I quite enjoy mine! :-) Good luck.
EDIT: the early bays had 1600 motors, I'm not sure they were exactly the same!
[Edited on 29/4/2005 by aggri1]
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