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Anyone built a rock and roll seat from scratch, well I have now, pics enclosed. *updated 23/07/05*
Just purcahsed a set of rock and roll hinges for a bay.
Has anyone fitted one of these before I head into the great unknown.
if not I will do a how to for anyone else attempting onenn[ Edited on 3-7-2005 by kafer69 ]nn[ Edited on 10-7-2005 by kafer69 ]nn[ Edited on 23-7-2005by kafer69 ]
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| posted on July 3rd, 2005 at 07:38 PM |
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pics?
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| posted on July 3rd, 2005 at 07:40 PM |
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no but i look fwd to how you get on..
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| posted on July 3rd, 2005 at 08:19 PM |
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There is a guy on SSVC who did a great post on there site regarding the Justkampers hinges, I had it as a favorite on my old comp, but forgot to save
it on this one.
Go on there site and ask for it,
http://www.ssvc.org.uk
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| posted on July 3rd, 2005 at 10:48 PM |
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| posted on July 3rd, 2005 at 10:51 PM |
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custom off road has
[size=4] Terry - Custom Off RoadComponents[/size]
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| posted on July 4th, 2005 at 06:40 AM |
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There yours Roy...got the instructions and info from that site no worries and thanks, just some measurements would be good.
I think the instructions are based on the whole kit including the timber from justkampers.
No worries, I'm always up for a challenge...
Will post pics and measurements as it happens...stay tuned will be starting this week end nn[ Edited on 3-7-2005 by kafer69 ]
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 05:37 PM |
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Started fitting the rock and roll seat to my sons kombi yesterday. Well by seat I mean hinges beacause other thab some basic drawings thats all you
get.
The challenge came in that there were no measurements for anything so all was done through trial and error.
I have added a few extra bits to mine to make it sronger. At the end of the day it's a seat so needs some strength. I also spent a lot of time
getting the back of the bed level with the top of the engine cover.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 05:41 PM |
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I also changed mine from the sketch to get the seat bottom sitting flat on the sides and the front piece which the sketches I had didn't. It's solid
as a rock when you sit on it and has know sag with the addition of the centre support.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 05:49 PM |
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The trick is getting the seat angles right for comfort and then being able to fold the bed down and have it sitting level with the engine cover.
The hinges have locking pins to locate the seat into the right angle, but I couldn't get it to sit right and work well as a bed. I came to the
conclusion that maybe the pins hadn't been correctly located.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 05:51 PM |
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Back rest folded down to form bed. This now sits nicw and flush with rear deck. I will get som angle bent to sit under the edge to support the back to
make it firm and prevent sagging.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 05:54 PM |
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This is the end result as the seat. The centre support not included in instructions adds needed support and prevents sagging.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 05:56 PM |
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Folded down into bed. All that is needed to finish it off is fitment of the support bracket for the front piece of the bed to make it level. I'll fit
this next week end.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 06:03 PM |
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Bottom of the seat lifts to reveal storage area.
I bought 2 sheets of 1800 x 1200 17mm ply and used a sheet and a half. The sheets cost me $40.00 dollars each and the hardware cost me $20.00. I've
taken measurements which I will post when it's finished which will atleast give you a starting point.
I also took me 2 templates of 12mm ply to get the ends right for the hinges mainly because of the anount of holes drilled in them to get the hinge
angle right.
It was worth it in the end.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 07:53 PM |
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A job well done Kafer Man! Truely a VW engineering legend ! I hope he's buying a few cartons to show his appreciaion for all your hard work!
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 01:43 AM |
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Very nice indeed.
Regarding the problem with getting the seat base to sit right and have the bed at the right level, I can tell you roughly what they did on mine. Sure
mine's the sort with the pivoted bars etc, but there's one bit that may apply.
When mine's in the seat position, it sits flat against the ply. However, when it's folded to the bed position there are a couple of plate steel feet
which sit on the front edge of the ply base. They don't touch the base in seat mode.
The feet give maybe 10cm more height.
edit: oops. Missed the post saying you were going to put the brackets in. BTW, nice hinges. are they HT steel?nn[ Edited on 10-7-2005 byGeneral_Failure ]
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 08:49 AM |
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wow that turned out really sweet.. good on you, well done!
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| posted on July 23rd, 2005 at 07:02 PM |
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For those interested..almost done except for the foam for the seat/bed and some carpet on the front kick panel
This is what the hinges look like installed...obviously this side wont be seen
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| posted on July 23rd, 2005 at 07:05 PM |
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onother pic of the hinges in place...let me say it was a horses arse trying to get them in the right spot...I'll post the dimensions of all the bits
including the location of the hinges...as a STARTING POINT.
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| posted on July 23rd, 2005 at 07:11 PM |
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Supports fitted for the bed when it is folded in place. I cut the slots snug as opposed to the pics I had. I figured I can cover the front panel with
carpet and just cut a slot in the carpet so you can't see them. Having them snug will also stop sideways movement.
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| posted on July 23rd, 2005 at 07:14 PM |
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In bed position...the gap between the front panel is there as per instructions...when in seat position the it sits flat on the front panel...thats
what the brackets are for.
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| posted on July 23rd, 2005 at 07:15 PM |
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few from the back...all nice and flat.
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| posted on July 23rd, 2005 at 07:17 PM |
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Last pic from the front.
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| posted on July 23rd, 2005 at 07:35 PM |
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Looks fantastic Kafer,great help to othersalso.Bet Bens pleased.Great that he's keeping it as well.....
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| posted on July 23rd, 2005 at 09:18 PM |
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kafer...I finally found you...fantastic job you've done!!! I bet Ben can't wait to try it out 
What are you doing for the upholstery, seat padding thingio stuff/cushions/mattress...whatever?
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