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 1303Steve
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 01:07 AM |
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mid engine V8 Beetle
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Saw this car on German Look. com and had to share it.
http://www.germanlook.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=6197
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 06:16 AM |
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Thanks for sharing this one, Steve.
That is awesome stuff!!
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 10:28 AM |
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Engineering at its best!!almost as good as my chassis:thumb.....Well done Steve keep and eye on this one.......Steve do you remember a bloke name
Billy, 1996 Vw shootout that was doing a front mount V8 dub tube chassis.He had a Rotary bug ther the same day.Have you heard or seen the car
finish?JVLRacing
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 01:27 PM |
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Hi John
Cant remember those cars, I work shifty work and the Shootout is often on when Im working. The V8 chassis is designed by Rorty designs in Melbourne
http://www.rorty-design.com/index.html
Steve
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 04:10 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by 1303Steve
Hi John
Cant remember those cars, I work shifty work and the Shootout is often on when Im working. The V8 chassis is designed by Rorty designs in Melbourne
http://www.rorty-design.com/index.html
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Thanks Steve.JVLRacing
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 04:20 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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Engineering at its best!!almost as good as my chassis:thumb.....Well done Steve keep and eye on this one.......Steve do you remember a bloke name
Billy, 1996 Vw shootout that was doing a front mount V8 dub tube chassis.He had a Rotary bug ther the same day.Have you heard or seen the car
finish?JVLRacing
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Here is a 1950 Split front mount V8
http://bb.bbboy.net/vwengineconversions
You find it under conversion pictures.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 06:25 PM |
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how would something go cost wise and licensing wise with a mid mount v8 bug?
Anthony
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 09:42 PM |
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Umm, if you modded that chassis design a little you could probably get it regoed in NSW providing the engine wasn't too big.
BTW, can't wait until Jak Jones sees this thread. 
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 09:52 PM |
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Hi
I think once the chassis is changed to this extent it would be an individually constructed vehicle. That’s a whole new can of worms that I know
nothing about. Jack Jones is probably busy tightening his tent ropes at the moment, just wait until the wind drops a bit.
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| posted on July 10th, 2005 at 09:56 PM |
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As long as you kept the centre tunnel, it would be like a full rear end on a drag car. My engineer said it was important that the pan resemble the
original one recognizably if you wanted to register things as rebodied beetles. I'm guessing it'd be the same for this. Then again with all the new
changes you might be right.
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 05:17 AM |
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yaeah was thinking of purchasing plans and doing such a thing.
would come under same category as old rods i imagine??
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 02:09 PM |
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HRmatt would know about that. But apparently, there are some peculiar laws relating to the age of the original car that make it difficult for dubs to
be registered as rods. That, and I suspect some rodders are a bit non-VW.
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 02:48 PM |
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It would be an ICV even if on SR plates.
Most rodders aren't non-vw, they tend to be non-vw people who tell them why they should accept them.
Under the rules if the car can gain enough points to be an ASRF classified car (Mild Custom or Wild Custom) you should be able to get SR rego. If the
TAC rep will accept it and in the end it's down to them and do they want to piss off clubs?
ASRF classes:
Hot-rod - Pre '48.
Classic Custom - American Origin, pre '71, separate removable chassis and body fastened by standard automotive fasteners.
Mild Custom - Pre '71 with (I think 200 points)
Wild Custom - Pre '71 with (I think minimum 400 points)
The points system is antiquated and gives more points to frenching of headlights then to relocation/redesign of driveline... Sorta done to keep it to
cars for which it was developed - ie American.
The change in engine position, the redesign of the chassis and such would almost certainly make it an ICV. High speed brake and cornering tests. Side
intrusion bars, current emmissions rules crumple zones.
If you have the $, time and good engineering then why not?nn[ Edited on 11-7-2005 by HotRodMatt ]
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 03:26 PM |
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that is just insane...............but i love it:jesus
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 05:33 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by HotRodMatt
Most rodders aren't non-vw, they tend to be non-vw people who tell them why they should accept them.
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Makes sense, I don't like V8 meatheads who try to tell me why I should love V8s so much.
Have you got a link to the point system thingo?
Who was it set-up by? National or state rego people?
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 05:50 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by pete wood
Have you got a link to the point system thingo?
Who was it set-up by? National or state rego people?
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Here's the thing. You can't get the rule book unless you are an ASRF member.
I have a friend that gives me the bits I need from time to time.
As it is ASRF affiliated clubs (or being a lone wolf ASRF member) that control the SR scheme it's a case of you have to get acceptance first before
you even consider SR rego.
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 09:24 PM |
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without being nasty, that's a bit exclusive isn't it. lets say someone builds awesome cars but has the personality of limp carboard and the social
skills of a nailgun, they'd really be behind the eightball.
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| posted on July 11th, 2005 at 09:28 PM |
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Not the person... the car Pete
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| posted on July 14th, 2005 at 12:13 PM |
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I have a set of plans for that chassis. My plan is to mount my 2.0 Suby twin turbo in it with the 56 Oval body. Have a friend who is helping me with
the Oval who is willing to help build the chassis. He is a retired machinist and likes to try unusal builds. He just finished a 1970 VW fastback
with a 2.2 Suby and a bus trans. He also has a Vanagon with a 2.2 Suby in it. We welded the roof back on the Oval last Saturday and will work on the
wiring harness next. We hope to have the Suby engine mid mount and still have enough room for a rear seat. Still lots of measureing to do.
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| posted on July 14th, 2005 at 04:31 PM |
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Not the person... the car Pete
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oh... :blush
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| posted on July 14th, 2005 at 05:18 PM |
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I have a set of plans for that chassis. My plan is to mount my 2.0 Suby twin turbo in it with the 56 Oval body. Have a friend who is helping me with
the Oval who is willing to help build the chassis. He is a retired machinist and likes to try unusal builds. He just finished a 1970 VW fastback
with a 2.2 Suby and a bus trans. He also has a Vanagon with a 2.2 Suby in it. We welded the roof back on the Oval last Saturday and will work on the
wiring harness next. We hope to have the Suby engine mid mount and still have enough room for a rear seat. Still lots of measureing to do.
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This sounds good!Any details on the chassis?JVLRacing:thumb
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| posted on July 14th, 2005 at 09:22 PM |
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I haven't started work on it yet. I would like to get the current version running before starting on the chassis.
Ernie
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| posted on July 15th, 2005 at 08:21 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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I haven't started work on it yet. I would like to get the current version running before starting on the chassis.
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Hi Ernie, are you going to design a full all half chassis and are you using CAD (computer)for designing?..... I found it was alot
easier and learnt more that way with my Engineer.Are you in Australia or overseas?JVLRacing
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| posted on July 15th, 2005 at 10:22 PM |
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I am in the United States. I have the blueprints from Rorty. I think it is a nice chassis design. I am sure I would have to do some redesign on the
rear for the Suby engine. I don't have a cad program, but the guy who is going to help me is pretty good at design work. He has built some pretty
wild cars in the past. He has a 1952 Jeep pickup with a Chevy V6 and auto trans. It has a Mustang front suspension and airbags on the rear. The
cab has been extended 14". He has built two Vanagons with Suby 2.2 engines. A nice friend to have. He laughs at some of my ideas.
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| posted on July 16th, 2005 at 03:51 PM |
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tripped out...why are u going the mid mounted subie twin instead of something that can pack a couple extra ponies..like a 1uzfe lexus motor..
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| posted on July 16th, 2005 at 09:26 PM |
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I have the Suby already in the Oval. Just want a better chassis. This engine is rated at 300 HP. I think that will be enough for me.
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| posted on July 17th, 2005 at 09:34 AM |
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i am thinking about looking at something like this for a second project..except with the lexus 1uzfe 4l lexus v8..maybe even forced induction..but at
the moment the bug will stay rear mounted engine and still be quick enough for me 
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| posted on July 17th, 2005 at 07:14 PM |
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Hmmm reminds me of a certain T3 thing in baby shit mustard brown colour that used to race at Oran Park mebbe 25 years ago.
Never looked inside but it was powered with (from memory) a 5 Lt Holden V8 boat anchor thing. I cannot remember whether it was mid-mounted tho.
I do remember it went like stink......in a straight line!
Corners were a little different LOL.
L8tr
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Im not a complete idiot, quite a few parts are missing....
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